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When Occupy Wall Streen Accomplishes Nothing - You heard it here first

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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by Section31
reply to post by gncnew
 

"OccupyWallStreet's" main goal is to get Obama re-elected. Regardless about everything else they are protesting against, "OccupyWallStreet's" over all existence is to help the Democrats win in 2012. Period.

Do you know what they will get for their effort? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Even though they may have the ability to get him back into office, they will get nothing in return for their efforts.

"OccupyWallStreet" is a tool for the Democrat party.

Nothing will change their fate.

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You are beyond ignorant. Those kids out there are fed up with this system, and that includes President Puppet Barack Obama.

You have no idea as to what you're talking about if you think that this has anything to do with the democrats. The protestors want the corporate money out of DC and that includes the Dems!! Educate yourself and stop spreading your stupidity



So you think a poll of those kids - done today - would reveal a large majority of them voting for someone other than Obama?




posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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All of the people that run around screaming "durr what r they protesting" are either dishonest, or incredibly, incredibly oblivious to what is going on right now.

More than likely, they're just establishment shills, not wanting to rattle their cage. Cowardly bastards eh?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by deanx
The way i see it, The movement started on honest and genuine basis. That's why they never got the slightest MSM attention. But, after a while, they got infiltrated by the Obamanoid hippies and now they took over the whole movement and the likes of Michael Moore are "assuming" leadership. Michael Moore hasn't been there since day one, he just popped up when it was convenient for him. And now, all of a sudden, I'm watching a lot of reports on CNN regarding this "Movement".... Anyway, This has to be one of the many methods of controlling a rebellious movement, Infiltrate and then take over. Bunch of guitar playing, sign waving, chanting hippies are NOT the resistance."Love" won't save you this time. Get real.


Very very astute observation.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by gncnew
 


Soldier you do not have the clearances to know what I know. Your what? Still a lonely E Tier?


Dude, I was never a soldier... I was a Marine, please don't insult me (sorry Army, had to go there).



WAS??


Once a Marine, always a Marine. So says my hunting partner.


Me, Chair Force all the way.



Touche'



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by Section31
reply to post by gncnew
 

"OccupyWallStreet's" main goal is to get Obama re-elected. Regardless about everything else they are protesting against, "OccupyWallStreet's" over all existence is to help the Democrats win in 2012. Period.

Do you know what they will get for their effort? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Even though they may have the ability to get him back into office, they will get nothing in return for their efforts.

"OccupyWallStreet" is a tool for the Democrat party.

Nothing will change their fate.

edit on 10/5/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)


You are beyond ignorant. Those kids out there are fed up with this system, and that includes President Puppet Barack Obama.

You have no idea as to what you're talking about if you think that this has anything to do with the democrats. The protestors want the corporate money out of DC and that includes the Dems!! Educate yourself and stop spreading your stupidity



So you think a poll of those kids - done today - would reveal a large majority of them voting for someone other than Obama?


Your head is so far up your ass that you cannot understand that this has nothing to do with partisan politics. Get with the times.

People are SICK of both corporate controlled parties. If you probably polled a majority of the protestors they would probably tell you to take your poll and pre selected corporate candidates and SHOVE IT.

What you fail to understand that a lot of this also stems from the fact that Obama took a dump on the progressive/liberal base as soon as he was sworn in. People are pissed at him and have realized that he's no different from George Bush. Wake up man



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman
 


You are witnessing the birth of a revolution. They take time. Your insistence that this movement is limited to young kids and hippies exposes your naivety. The exuberance of youth will occupy the streets, but the older more established citizens will find their places in support and directive roles. Not so much different than a ground based military assault, something I'm sure you are familiar with and respectful of.



While I agree with the ground based assault statement, I disagree with the first, and so do you.

I stated what I see. The young and retread hippies.
And you stated that I was naive in this, but then state the youth are the ones on the street. So, I am right.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by radosta
This is what I have gained from this thread:
If you apply reasoned argument against OWS, you deserve to be called a shill, a traitor, stupid, and worse. And apparently you should hang from a lamppost, be shot, imprisoned, or silenced.
Your military service will be ridiculed. You'd think collectivists might appreciate someone willing to give up their life for their countrymen.
Not the America I would fight for.

I came into this thread without a clear concept of OWS. Thank you, OP, for clearing this up for me.

And you are correct, OP. The banks will do themselves in. These "V" wannabes will continue to be a form of entertainment to the elites until their own hubris and ineptitude brings it all down. Then it will be up to hard working individuals with actual skills to rebuild. And to give jobs to the "99%" so they can eat.

Never was a fan of Ayn Rand, but this rabble represents everything she warned about. And by rabble, I refer to the OWS folks as well as their banking elite "enemies". The Laurel and Hardy of early 21st century history.


Well played sir, well played.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman
 


You are witnessing the birth of a revolution. They take time. Your insistence that this movement is limited to young kids and hippies exposes your naivety. The exuberance of youth will occupy the streets, but the older more established citizens will find their places in support and directive roles. Not so much different than a ground based military assault, something I'm sure you are familiar with and respectful of.



You really think any of those kids has the attention span to sit on this for years? Hell, they'll be on to the next "movement" inside of a week.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman
 


So you know the political leanings of the protesters. Wow...impressive military mind you have.

If you were to look back into history you would know that revolution is not a young mans game, but a demand for justice and change from all ages, but only one socioeconomic class, the majority.

Your condescension does not serve your argument.


What do you speak of?

Yes, in the past, revolution was not. But, we are here and now.
Protests are for people that love the crowd.
Revolution, now, is for the young.
Now, what is meant by Revolution?
I think you and I are speaking a different dialect.


Having a hard time following along?

Take a look at the majority and you will see the revolution. Anyone really looking will see it's diversity.
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I see young kids and retread hippies.
I see union thugs, moveon.org members, communists, socialists and marxists.

I don't see my neighbor, nor people like me, as we have our families to take care of and jobs to work to provide the people protesting with Govt entitlements.

This march on Wall Street is not revolution. It is a mass protest.

It will be a Revolution when things change and/or there are battles being waged.






Again with the commie stuff. Dude, the Cold War ended years ago
you sound absolutely moronic. There are ALL walks of life out there, not just "marxists".

I fear for your children if you sit at the dinner table rattling on about commies and such. My god man


Oh, ye of little knowledge of the past.
www.youtube.com...

You think Communists don't exist?

What was the best quote from the Usual Suspects, something like "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.".

Just because you don't want to admit something, does not make it void.

And spare me the whole feeling sorry for me kids.
They will grow up knowing that we have free will, personal responsibility, the truth of intrusive Govts, the past workings of Socialist/Communists/Marxists Govts and the downfall of those places.

Feel sorry for the kid that grows up only knowing of Govt dependence, as they will remain a slave until they are taught to be independent.


If you work and take care of yourself, like many Americans, especially those you insultingly want to call Commies, do, you are independent. Do you think that people who support ending the bankers/corporate control of our country are all unemployed, on welfare, or subscribe to the beliefs of Karl Marx? This is why I said that your position is moronic.

Its not 1962 anymore my friend...your kids have nothing to fear from those dang commies.


The people lining the pockets of politicians are the real threat here. I don't see any communists. I don't even think the people that made my chinese food last night are commies
paranoid ranting and lunacy
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edit on 5-10-2011 by illuminatislave because: (no reason given)



Shoo. I am so glad that an ATS poster advised me that there was nothing to fear from Communists/Socialists/Marxists.

That really is comforting.

Um, not really, as all 3 seem to be in full effort and affect with this.

And the people that made your food last night probably aren't Communists, as they left China to escape it.


Thinking that they could get away from that in the US. But, looks like they were wrong.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman
 


You are witnessing the birth of a revolution. They take time. Your insistence that this movement is limited to young kids and hippies exposes your naivety. The exuberance of youth will occupy the streets, but the older more established citizens will find their places in support and directive roles. Not so much different than a ground based military assault, something I'm sure you are familiar with and respectful of.



You really think any of those kids has the attention span to sit on this for years? Hell, they'll be on to the next "movement" inside of a week.


As long as they have their guitars, Chess boards and Hula hoops, They're fine.
This is not a revolution, it's a freakin' carnival.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
You know what, OP? Shut up.




That's really all you had to say. The rest of your post was just mish-mash gibberish essentially saying "if you're not for us - you're against us!".

AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THATS GOOD - please don't feed me CNN as your source for anything.

I do like the absolute irony of your avatar and your response to this thread - hence your support for hippie fest 2011.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Thats funny, I have seen that a lot on here. People accusing people of getting paid to stir the pot on ATS. Absolutely ridiculous...but I can send my resume if there are any openings available.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Sunlionspirit

yes ok and I am french and how is it with your french ??? je pense que t'es un brave con qui bosse pour les néo-cons et le néo-capitalisme !!! tu te fous de ma gueule parce que je suis français mais toi tu ne parles même pas un mot de cette langue !!! pauvre c**n, tu n'as aucun sens de la solidarité !! va te faire cuire un oeuf !


Wait just a minute sir! I will NOT go cook an egg!

and look, if you're french, why are you so invested in an American protest? Don't you have Greece to worry about in your EU?

Get off your high horse and quit toting the liberal line. There is no such thing as "Neo-Capitalist"... you've actually just made that crap up.

So in the words of one of your finest: Les hommes sont déplacés par deux seuls leviers: la peur et l'intérêt personnel

Which are those in OWS moving on?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by Section31
reply to post by gncnew
 

"OccupyWallStreet's" main goal is to get Obama re-elected. Regardless about everything else they are protesting against, "OccupyWallStreet's" over all existence is to help the Democrats win in 2012. Period.

Do you know what they will get for their effort? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Even though they may have the ability to get him back into office, they will get nothing in return for their efforts.

"OccupyWallStreet" is a tool for the Democrat party.

Nothing will change their fate.

edit on 10/5/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)


You are beyond ignorant. Those kids out there are fed up with this system, and that includes President Puppet Barack Obama.

You have no idea as to what you're talking about if you think that this has anything to do with the democrats. The protestors want the corporate money out of DC and that includes the Dems!! Educate yourself and stop spreading your stupidity



So you think a poll of those kids - done today - would reveal a large majority of them voting for someone other than Obama?


Your head is so far up your ass that you cannot understand that this has nothing to do with partisan politics. Get with the times.

People are SICK of both corporate controlled parties. If you probably polled a majority of the protestors they would probably tell you to take your poll and pre selected corporate candidates and SHOVE IT.

What you fail to understand that a lot of this also stems from the fact that Obama took a dump on the progressive/liberal base as soon as he was sworn in. People are pissed at him and have realized that he's no different from George Bush. Wake up man


The times have moved past you. While you blinked - the liberal American agenda has moved in and hijacked this "protest"...

In fact, I think you actually stated that yourself already... I think you're just too proud to admit I'm right on this one.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by stephanies-chase
reply to post by Domo1
 


Thats funny, I have seen that a lot on here. People accusing people of getting paid to stir the pot on ATS. Absolutely ridiculous...but I can send my resume if there are any openings available.


Sure, either to me or GNCNEW.

But beware, we are members of Skull and Bones, known evil capitalist/conservative and will probably force you to kill starving kids and kick grandma out of their homes.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by stephanies-chase
reply to post by Domo1
 


Thats funny, I have seen that a lot on here. People accusing people of getting paid to stir the pot on ATS. Absolutely ridiculous...but I can send my resume if there are any openings available.


I pay all my employees in Oreos. Only way to keep them fat and dependent on me... OOPS! Did I just give out my evil "neo-capitalist" secret?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Great points...and now that Van Jones is cheerleading this so-called protest and Obama's faithful unions are joining, it seems obvious that is an administration backed "event". Some of the protesters are even calling for the re-election of Obama.

And since when do anarchists support big government?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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The nuances of language, I appreciate it, you do not. Yes, youth will be the major occupiers of the streets, but not exclusively. You of all people (being military) should suspect and be cautious of what your eyes can not see. If you think that this movement, fledgling revolution is limited to only what you can see on the streets then I will have to assume you are not paying attention.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by stephanies-chase
reply to post by Domo1
 


Thats funny, I have seen that a lot on here. People accusing people of getting paid to stir the pot on ATS. Absolutely ridiculous...but I can send my resume if there are any openings available.


I pay all my employees in Oreos. Only way to keep them fat and dependent on me... OOPS! Did I just give out my evil "neo-capitalist" secret?


I pay with McDonald's Gift Cards, but the end result is the same as yours. But, with that my Stock in McDonald's goes up. It's a win win.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman
 


The nuances of language, I appreciate it, you do not. Yes, youth will be the major occupiers of the streets, but not exclusively. You of all people (being military) should suspect and be cautious of what your eyes can not see. If you think that this movement, fledgling revolution is limited to only what you can see on the streets then I will have to assume you are not paying attention.







Already been addressed. I know who backs and drives them. it has been pointed out.

You see nuance, I see semantics or Freudian Slip.



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