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When Occupy Wall Streen Accomplishes Nothing - You heard it here first

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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Witness2008

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman
 


So you know the political leanings of the protesters. Wow...impressive military mind you have.

If you were to look back into history you would know that revolution is not a young mans game, but a demand for justice and change from all ages, but only one socioeconomic class, the majority.

Your condescension does not serve your argument.


What do you speak of?

Yes, in the past, revolution was not. But, we are here and now.
Protests are for people that love the crowd.
Revolution, now, is for the young.
Now, what is meant by Revolution?
I think you and I are speaking a different dialect.


Having a hard time following along?

Take a look at the majority and you will see the revolution. Anyone really looking will see it's diversity.
edit on 5-10-2011 by Witness2008 because: (no reason given)


I see young kids and retread hippies.
I see union thugs, moveon.org members, communists, socialists and marxists.

I don't see my neighbor, nor people like me, as we have our families to take care of and jobs to work to provide the people protesting with Govt entitlements.

This march on Wall Street is not revolution. It is a mass protest.

It will be a Revolution when things change and/or there are battles being waged.




posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by gncnew
 


Soldier you do not have the clearances to know what I know. Your what? Still a lonely E Tier?


Dude, I was never a soldier... I was a Marine, please don't insult me (sorry Army, had to go there).



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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reply to post by deanx
 


The infiltration became obvious once the media began to cover it.

They did the same thing to the TP.

Now the true members of TP and the 99% movement need to trim the fat, mainly opportunist pigs like Michael Moore or any shills for the DNC and what have you, find some common ground and raise hell.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by gncnew
 


Soldier you do not have the clearances to know what I know. Your what? Still a lonely E Tier?


Dude, I was never a soldier... I was a Marine, please don't insult me (sorry Army, had to go there).



WAS??


Once a Marine, always a Marine. So says my hunting partner.


Me, Chair Force all the way.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This is not a plan co-opted by The White House, Soros, The Dems, The Liberals and none of those shadowy puppet groups. This was formed by average Americans who are the 99%, this is not a plan co-opted by TPTB to invoke martial law.

To those trying to cut this down you will lose and do not even dare to spin this to be added to "The Left-v-Right" paradigm and have already stated they want nothing to do with the 2 party oligarchy. To insinuate or spin anything else is a blatant lie.

The target is the banks and if you are with the banks you are against America as they do not give a toss about you as you are not a multi millionaire!
edit on 5-10-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)


Watch and learn my young friend - you'll be astonished at how quickly the Obama support stirs in this "movement". The subtle message is already there.

Isn't it the least bit curious to you how this started immediately after Obama started his class warefare stump speeches?

P.S. Isn't it also curious why I always add an extra "e" in the word warefare?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave
reply to post by deanx
 


The infiltration became obvious once the media began to cover it.

They did the same thing to the TP.

Now the true members of TP and the 99% movement need to trim the fat, mainly opportunist pigs like Michael Moore or any shills for the DNC and what have you, find some common ground and raise hell.



Hey, what do you know. We agree on something.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This is not a plan co-opted by The White House, Soros, The Dems, The Liberals and none of those shadowy puppet groups. This was formed by average Americans who are the 99%, this is not a plan co-opted by TPTB to invoke martial law.

To those trying to cut this down you will lose and do not even dare to spin this to be added to "The Left-v-Right" paradigm and have already stated they want nothing to do with the 2 party oligarchy. To insinuate or spin anything else is a blatant lie.

The target is the banks and if you are with the banks you are against America as they do not give a toss about you as you are not a multi millionaire!
edit on 5-10-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)



P.S. Isn't it also curious why I always add an extra "e" in the word warefare?


Not to me, as I have always learned that Marines can't spell.

Just kidding.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman
 


So you know the political leanings of the protesters. Wow...impressive military mind you have.

If you were to look back into history you would know that revolution is not a young mans game, but a demand for justice and change from all ages, but only one socioeconomic class, the majority.

Your condescension does not serve your argument.


What do you speak of?

Yes, in the past, revolution was not. But, we are here and now.
Protests are for people that love the crowd.
Revolution, now, is for the young.
Now, what is meant by Revolution?
I think you and I are speaking a different dialect.


Having a hard time following along?

Take a look at the majority and you will see the revolution. Anyone really looking will see it's diversity.
edit on 5-10-2011 by Witness2008 because: (no reason given)


I see young kids and retread hippies.
I see union thugs, moveon.org members, communists, socialists and marxists.

I don't see my neighbor, nor people like me, as we have our families to take care of and jobs to work to provide the people protesting with Govt entitlements.

This march on Wall Street is not revolution. It is a mass protest.

It will be a Revolution when things change and/or there are battles being waged.






Again with the commie stuff. Dude, the Cold War ended years ago
you sound absolutely moronic. There are ALL walks of life out there, not just "marxists".

I fear for your children if you sit at the dinner table rattling on about commies and such. My god man



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by radosta
reply to post by PapaKrok
 


Like the tea party protests, this whole thing is likely no more than a great communal masturbation.


NOW THAT is funny..



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by gncnew


ABSOLUTELY! Fedral Reserve is the problem - but Wall Street aint where you fight it. And this whole "living wage" and "unemployment" stuff are all symptons of the problem.

We need to force our elected officials to begin printing their own money again - and outlaw the Fed Reserve. Every President who's fought them (from Lincoln to Kennedy) has been shot.


You do realize that you have common ground with people that are protesting? There numerous folks out there screaming to End the Fed(and I agree).


I've common ground with probably everyone in the world - doesn't mean I support what they're doing...

I've got common ground with a murder - we both think M&M's are good - doesn't mean I support him killing folks.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Hey, what do you know. We agree on something.



We probably agree on several different things.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by gncnew


Watch and learn my young friend - you'll be astonished at how quickly the Obama support stirs in this "movement". The subtle message is already there.



Obama is a corporate puppet. He would not be cheered if he stepped foot near any of these protests. Stop spouting off a bunch of Fox News and Sean Hannity talking points and go see for yourself. Or are you proud to roll around in ignorance like a pig in mud?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Sunlionspirit

Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
Op's last three threads are basically bashing on Occupy Wall St.

(Second Line)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And in that last one, you Full On Straw-manned their position, by posting an incorrect link to a set of false demands, claiming that those outlandish demands were Theirs....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And you ridiculed the people who were correcting you.



Hey OP, Are you being Paid to Post on AboveTopSecret?
edit on 4-10-2011 by ErtaiNaGia because: (no reason given)


I agree totally with you : this OP is a shame !! what does he do to counter the big neo-capitalist crisis ??
NOTHING !! he just is a poor sixpack stupid one playing the game of the 1 % .....
because no brain left to think for 2 or more ..... just for himself.
Shame. Period.


Yep, that's me... just too dumb to know better. By the way; it's "six pack". it's not one word. The phrase comes from six cans being bundled together for sale, but it's still two words.

And what's a "neo-capitalist"? A "new age" capitalist? I didn't know there were any "Old Age" capitalists? I was under the assumption we were all participating in the economic system knows as "Capitalism"...

Am a wrong about that (*GASP*) did I miss where the line in the grocery store was for the non-capitalists?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman
 


So you know the political leanings of the protesters. Wow...impressive military mind you have.

If you were to look back into history you would know that revolution is not a young mans game, but a demand for justice and change from all ages, but only one socioeconomic class, the majority.

Your condescension does not serve your argument.


What do you speak of?

Yes, in the past, revolution was not. But, we are here and now.
Protests are for people that love the crowd.
Revolution, now, is for the young.
Now, what is meant by Revolution?
I think you and I are speaking a different dialect.


Having a hard time following along?

Take a look at the majority and you will see the revolution. Anyone really looking will see it's diversity.
edit on 5-10-2011 by Witness2008 because: (no reason given)


I see young kids and retread hippies.
I see union thugs, moveon.org members, communists, socialists and marxists.

I don't see my neighbor, nor people like me, as we have our families to take care of and jobs to work to provide the people protesting with Govt entitlements.

This march on Wall Street is not revolution. It is a mass protest.

It will be a Revolution when things change and/or there are battles being waged.






Again with the commie stuff. Dude, the Cold War ended years ago
you sound absolutely moronic. There are ALL walks of life out there, not just "marxists".

I fear for your children if you sit at the dinner table rattling on about commies and such. My god man


Oh, ye of little knowledge of the past.
www.youtube.com...

You think Communists don't exist?

What was the best quote from the Usual Suspects, something like "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.".

Just because you don't want to admit something, does not make it void.

And spare me the whole feeling sorry for me kids.
They will grow up knowing that we have free will, personal responsibility, the truth of intrusive Govts, the past workings of Socialist/Communists/Marxists Govts and the downfall of those places.

Feel sorry for the kid that grows up only knowing of Govt dependence, as they will remain a slave until they are taught to be independent.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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This is what I have gained from this thread:
If you apply reasoned argument against OWS, you deserve to be called a shill, a traitor, stupid, and worse. And apparently you should hang from a lamppost, be shot, imprisoned, or silenced.
Your military service will be ridiculed. You'd think collectivists might appreciate someone willing to give up their life for their countrymen.
Not the America I would fight for.

I came into this thread without a clear concept of OWS. Thank you, OP, for clearing this up for me.

And you are correct, OP. The banks will do themselves in. These "V" wannabes will continue to be a form of entertainment to the elites until their own hubris and ineptitude brings it all down. Then it will be up to hard working individuals with actual skills to rebuild. And to give jobs to the "99%" so they can eat.

Never was a fan of Ayn Rand, but this rabble represents everything she warned about. And by rabble, I refer to the OWS folks as well as their banking elite "enemies". The Laurel and Hardy of early 21st century history.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:57 PM
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You are witnessing the birth of a revolution. They take time. Your insistence that this movement is limited to young kids and hippies exposes your naivety. The exuberance of youth will occupy the streets, but the older more established citizens will find their places in support and directive roles. Not so much different than a ground based military assault, something I'm sure you are familiar with and respectful of.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman
 


So you know the political leanings of the protesters. Wow...impressive military mind you have.

If you were to look back into history you would know that revolution is not a young mans game, but a demand for justice and change from all ages, but only one socioeconomic class, the majority.

Your condescension does not serve your argument.


What do you speak of?

Yes, in the past, revolution was not. But, we are here and now.
Protests are for people that love the crowd.
Revolution, now, is for the young.
Now, what is meant by Revolution?
I think you and I are speaking a different dialect.


Having a hard time following along?

Take a look at the majority and you will see the revolution. Anyone really looking will see it's diversity.
edit on 5-10-2011 by Witness2008 because: (no reason given)


I see young kids and retread hippies.
I see union thugs, moveon.org members, communists, socialists and marxists.

I don't see my neighbor, nor people like me, as we have our families to take care of and jobs to work to provide the people protesting with Govt entitlements.

This march on Wall Street is not revolution. It is a mass protest.

It will be a Revolution when things change and/or there are battles being waged.






Again with the commie stuff. Dude, the Cold War ended years ago
you sound absolutely moronic. There are ALL walks of life out there, not just "marxists".

I fear for your children if you sit at the dinner table rattling on about commies and such. My god man


Oh, ye of little knowledge of the past.
www.youtube.com...

You think Communists don't exist?

What was the best quote from the Usual Suspects, something like "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.".

Just because you don't want to admit something, does not make it void.

And spare me the whole feeling sorry for me kids.
They will grow up knowing that we have free will, personal responsibility, the truth of intrusive Govts, the past workings of Socialist/Communists/Marxists Govts and the downfall of those places.

Feel sorry for the kid that grows up only knowing of Govt dependence, as they will remain a slave until they are taught to be independent.


If you work and take care of yourself, like many Americans, especially those you insultingly want to call Commies, do, you are independent. Do you think that people who support ending the bankers/corporate control of our country are all unemployed, on welfare, or subscribe to the beliefs of Karl Marx? This is why I said that your position is moronic.

Its not 1962 anymore my friend...your kids have nothing to fear from those dang commies.


The people lining the pockets of politicians are the real threat here. I don't see any communists. I don't even think the people that made my chinese food last night are commies
paranoid ranting and lunacy
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edit on 5-10-2011 by illuminatislave because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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You know what, OP? Shut up.

Shut up, because you clearly have no idea what occupy wall "streen" is about....(street being spelled with a "T", not an "N".

You want to know what this is all about, how it got started and the reason it is taking place? let me educate you, since you are clueless and feel like bashing on people for wanting to make a difference.

First, this has NOTHING to do with Obama and the reasons are not politically motivated at all. Where you came up with that one, is beyond me. You remind me of Gadaffi supporters feigning ignorance and having no idea what the protests are about or what the protestors want.


Anyone who says he has no idea what these folks are protesting is not being truthful. Whether we agree with them or not, we all know what they are upset about, and we all know that there are investment bankers working on Wall Street getting richer while things for most of the rest of us are getting tougher. What upsets banking's defenders and politicians alike is the refusal of this movement to state its terms or set its goals in the traditional language of campaigns.



That's because, unlike a political campaign designed to get some person in office and then close up shop (as in the election of Obama), this is not a movement with a traditional narrative arc. As the product of the decentralized networked-era culture, it is less about victory than sustainability. It is not about one-pointedness, but inclusion and groping toward consensus. It is not like a book; it is like the Internet.


www.cnn.com...

Read that, if you truly don't get it... That will explain it to you in terms that you can understand.

The MSM is realizing this is not just some silly little protest. It's time you start realizing as well.... People are only laughing at you. The goals, wants and demands are actually pretty clear... If you actually go investigate and not just brown nose the MSM.

This is not going away, OP....

The title of this thread alone, shows that you just plain don't get it.... Well, hopefully,after reading this post and the article I linked... You finally do.

If you don't get it now or if you continue on with your line of thinking, as presented in the OP, then you are in for a big surprised. This ain't just some silly little fad and it is not going away.

Good day.

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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Sunlionspirit

Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by ka119
reply to post by gncnew
 

Debbie Downer alert.

Well good for you, while you sit and do nothing, let these people try and change the world.
Enough with the negativity, reading your posts about all this is absolutely ridiculous. All you do is bitch and moan about how they aren't doing anything, well they are doing a hell of a lot more than you are, eh?


Stop it! You almost made me spit out my x-large coke as I was eating my super sized fries and big mac...

If I go to the rescue mission and feed 20 homeless men and women on a Wedensday night, but I do it very quietly.. .OR I go and spend a week in the park and chant "Down with Wall Street!" all day and night

Which path actually accomplished something? Intentions without results is useless and a waste. You'll learn this when you grow up.


are you kidding or what ??? you do help 20 homeless people ??? kidding of course because I do not believe you for a second !!
you are a fraud ! a neo-capitalist neo-con fraud !! go join your friend GWBushy and Cheeny and Rumsky and Rove and their Reagonomics with Thatcher bullsh************t ok ?? you are a fraud and a lier, you never did help anybody otherwise you should understand the revolt of the people and the middle class suffering from neo-capitalist robbery and fraud !!!!!!!!!!!!!
period you !
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Sadly I'm not kidding. I actually head up the missions for my local church. I organize about 40 people to read to the at-risk kids in the local elementary school because they measure future prison growth by 4th grade literacy rates.

I run a bread ministry to a local youth club that serves a very at-risk area where they've got a 90% drop out rate.

I organize 20 people to serve food at the rescue mission 1 Saturday a month.

I do this because it's what can show the Glory of my God to those people who've got no hope. It's what shows them that someone cares and there is a future for them. It shows them they have value and are cared for by God if nobody else.

-------------------------------------------------
I'm not really worried that you think I'm a fraud. I'm more worried that you use the word "neo-capitalist"...

Unless you're using some other form of economy, we're both participating in capitalism.

Please promise me you wont vote in the next election - it would be a crime against humanity.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by Sunlionspirit

Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
Op's last three threads are basically bashing on Occupy Wall St.

(Second Line)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And in that last one, you Full On Straw-manned their position, by posting an incorrect link to a set of false demands, claiming that those outlandish demands were Theirs....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And you ridiculed the people who were correcting you.



Hey OP, Are you being Paid to Post on AboveTopSecret?
edit on 4-10-2011 by ErtaiNaGia because: (no reason given)


I agree totally with you : this OP is a shame !! what does he do to counter the big neo-capitalist crisis ??
NOTHING !! he just is a poor sixpack stupid one playing the game of the 1 % .....
because no brain left to think for 2 or more ..... just for himself.
Shame. Period.


Yep, that's me... just too dumb to know better. By the way; it's "six pack". it's not one word. The phrase comes from six cans being bundled together for sale, but it's still two words.

And what's a "neo-capitalist"? A "new age" capitalist? I didn't know there were any "Old Age" capitalists? I was under the assumption we were all participating in the economic system knows as "Capitalism"...

Am a wrong about that (*GASP*) did I miss where the line in the grocery store was for the non-capitalists?


yes ok and I am french and how is it with your french ??? je pense que t'es un brave con qui bosse pour les néo-cons et le néo-capitalisme !!! tu te fous de ma gueule parce que je suis français mais toi tu ne parles même pas un mot de cette langue !!! pauvre c**n, tu n'as aucun sens de la solidarité !! va te faire cuire un oeuf !



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