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Look at this tax the rich thing. Any extra taxes are simply added to the cost of goods and services and always have been. It's all a game. Those who provide the goods and services have to make a profit to survive and they actually have no choice but to base pricing on their costs.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
What you should be screaming for is opportunity and for government to get out of the way instead of wanting more government, don't you think?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Blaine91555
Look at this tax the rich thing. Any extra taxes are simply added to the cost of goods and services and always have been. It's all a game. Those who provide the goods and services have to make a profit to survive and they actually have no choice but to base pricing on their costs.
Yes, exactly, thank you very much. It defies understanding when ppl complain so bitterly about the corporations which produce the things we all need and use daily, and also don't realize how much the hidden taxes affect the poor when the cost is passed on to them. The devalauation of the dollar is a hidden tax that gets passed on to the poor even as they receive govt subsidies.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by Blaine91555
What you should be screaming for is opportunity and for government to get out of the way instead of wanting more government, don't you think?
But you and your political allies are screaming to let wall street and banks create the deregulatory loop holes
which lead to this situation.
So if it creates jobs fine, if it creates jobs and subsequently the means to destroy America's economy further,
hell no!
The corporation use exactly what you are advocating for as a way to screw Americans.
The blind lack of consideration you and other Plutocrats show makes me oppose you and your
thoughtless agenda.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Blaine91555
Look at this tax the rich thing. Any extra taxes are simply added to the cost of goods and services and always have been. It's all a game. Those who provide the goods and services have to make a profit to survive and they actually have no choice but to base pricing on their costs.
Yes, exactly, thank you very much. It defies understanding when ppl complain so bitterly about the corporations which produce the things we all need and use daily, and also don't realize how much the hidden taxes affect the poor when the cost is passed on to them. The devalauation of the dollar is a hidden tax that gets passed on to the poor even as they receive govt subsidies.
Originally posted by narwahl
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Blaine91555
Look at this tax the rich thing. Any extra taxes are simply added to the cost of goods and services and always have been. It's all a game. Those who provide the goods and services have to make a profit to survive and they actually have no choice but to base pricing on their costs.
Yes, exactly, thank you very much. It defies understanding when ppl complain so bitterly about the corporations which produce the things we all need and use daily, and also don't realize how much the hidden taxes affect the poor when the cost is passed on to them. The devalauation of the dollar is a hidden tax that gets passed on to the poor even as they receive govt subsidies.
Because it's not true.
Tax incidence depends on elasticity of demand and elasticity of supply.
And thats for excise Taxes
Income taxes make this whole game impossible, because you do not know for sure how many widgets you will sell in a given year, and the tax comes after the fact.
If a company can charge a higher price without affecting demand, it is already doing it (Or has a fool for a CEO)
You could argue that demand is very inelastic for necessities, but on the other hand supply is very elastic (Not many entry barriers to baking a few loafs of bread)
Originally posted by BlackStar99
It's good to see people starting to understand this isn't a genuine revolution. What better way to bring down "the system"(capitalism) than to use the people, make them demand it. That's why Obama is pushing so hard to get people to demand his socialist jobs bill. That's why anonymous only talks about "the bankers". That's why 'Inside Job'(which only targets the specific corporations not the people) won an Academy award. That's why Al Jazeera just released a n expensive production similar to 'Inside Job' on again, just the corporations.
Star Wars III
"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause"
And after this really ramps up and people start boycotting these banks and corporations in mass they'll collapse alright, right along with what's left our economy after they've spent quite some time making it dependant on them. And while everything's in chaos because everything's 2000% more expensive the executives and big shareholders who's corporations collapsed will still be just fine with their many houses, and cars, their trophy wife, and massive account not in Euro, USD or any other 'democratic' debt slave countries.
Useful idiots.
If any government destroys our liberty, Broden replied, "we have a right... to get rid of it by any means necessary."
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by Blaine91555
What you should be screaming for is opportunity and for government to get out of the way instead of wanting more government, don't you think?
But you and your political allies are screaming to let wall street and banks create the deregulatory loop holes
which lead to this situation.
So if it creates jobs fine, if it creates jobs and subsequently the means to destroy America's economy further,
hell no!
The corporation use exactly what you are advocating for as a way to screw Americans.
The blind lack of consideration you and other Plutocrats show makes me oppose you and your
thoughtless agenda.
Well, you know what? I'd love it if you would call Bill Gates up and tell him to stop sending sterilant laced vaccines to third world countries. And when you do that, please tell him you have renounced all Windows based applications and are boycotting all MS products from now till eternity.
Originally posted by mastahunta
It is neat to see that some many, who claim to be in favor of liberty are busy here defending the
very institutions that buy and subvert liberty with impunity.
Protect thine master!
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by Blaine91555
What you should be screaming for is opportunity and for government to get out of the way instead of wanting more government, don't you think?
But you and your political allies are screaming to let wall street and banks create the deregulatory loop holes
which lead to this situation.
So if it creates jobs fine, if it creates jobs and subsequently the means to destroy America's economy further,
hell no!
The corporation use exactly what you are advocating for as a way to screw Americans.
The blind lack of consideration you and other Plutocrats show makes me oppose you and your
thoughtless agenda.
Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by mastahunta
If any government destroys our liberty, Broden replied, "we have a right... to get rid of it by any means necessary."
From your link, the week.com.
The Tea Party manifesto is:
1. Like American forefathers, we believe we are accountable ot a sovereign God (Creator) who grants us unalienable rights to life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
2. Like America's forefathers, we believe the Constitution strictly limits the power of the federal government and uniquely recognizes and protects those unalienable individual rights.
Broden is correct.
On another note, the successful became successful because many are imaginative and focused. Even if the social ideologists get their way, the successful will default to what they do best and survive just fine.
I'm don't advocate corruption but forcing anyone to "do the right thing" doesn't work and never will.
This direct line of division (grouping) and narrow minded focus isn't the only way to deal with the problematic but when everyone is in an uproar and no one is truly listening, nothing will ever be agreed upon. Which is exactly the way those in power want it.
This class welfare is simply an excuse to be rude and to wallow in the mud with the pigs. It's all about labels/division and testing the patience of others.
This is all about flirting with a desire to riot, to embrace chaos. The masters are calling for it and it's working.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, lol, class warfare is going to solve anything.
of the capital driven economic system here. Can't you accept that some business practices are beyond the
Originally posted by BlackStar99
Originally posted by mastahunta
It is neat to see that some many, who claim to be in favor of liberty are busy here defending the
very institutions that buy and subvert liberty with impunity.
Protect thine master!
It's lame to see the same talking point over and over and over again because somehow, when someone points out the forces behind this, it automatically means we support the banks and big corps.
I thought it was common knowledge here that they have funded/organized both sides of various conflicts for a long time.edit on 3-10-2011 by BlackStar99 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by BlackStar99
Yes, thank you. Soros has already collapsed other currencies and economies, now he is working on the US currency. But it's not just Soros, it's all the Elite, the World Bank, the IMF, and all these big players in Bilderberg, with their lil "basket of currencies".
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by BlackStar99
Originally posted by mastahunta
It is neat to see that some many, who claim to be in favor of liberty are busy here defending the
very institutions that buy and subvert liberty with impunity.
Protect thine master!
It's lame to see the same talking point over and over and over again because somehow, when someone points out the forces behind this, it automatically means we support the banks and big corps.
I thought it was common knowledge here that they have funded/organized both sides of various conflicts for a long time.edit on 3-10-2011 by BlackStar99 because: (no reason given)
You keep hearing it from us because it is the truth.
You and your political crew here, demonize and marginalize the angry tax payers who are expressing
their natural right to express their conscience. So what you crew does is create the street level
push back and protection for the elites and their institution. You might not support the big corps,
but you sure do the good work for them, you are more valuable than any PR firm could ever be.
I know all the Tea Parties on this very thread were constantly championing the validity of their
sentiment, dispute the fact that America's largest corporatists and news network were both
funding and coordinating the efforts of the Tea Party. But now that the shoe is on the other
foot, they pickup and dust off the same argument they were fighting against.
In the end, the economic powers that fund the politicians and the framework for corruption
NEED your voices, my voice threatens their scheme, because I value ethics over business.
If a business defies concept of ethics and if it's practices defy the spirit of
law, I don't care how big and elite the operation is. Again, this crew doesn't even care to examine,
the only goal is to obstruct and leave the power structure and corruption in place.