People Rounded up Like Cattle @ NYC, Riots Imminent: Occupy Wall St Turns Sheer Police Brutality!

reply to post by watcher3339


I agree but this is just as important as that, both in conjunction will more so get the point across. Like those people out there will be buying anything, that's doubtful anyway since they're not working, so the protest is part of it, the other part is not buying their products which is ongoing. Nobody hardly can afford to buy their junk anymore anyway. They will see come christmas.

Originally posted by VicDiaz89
Im sure only a small portion of these protesters actually understand why they are out there,most are probably just looters tryin to exploit the situation and cause havoc,or just people lookin for their 15 minutes of fame,it is new york after all. Its a sad day in our country when people get beaten and arrested for wagging their fingers at the crooked bastards in charge.

Yeah, because it's really simple to sleep in a park for two weeks, march and protest, risk arrest, and pneumonia, all for the sake of maybe grabbing a flat screen TV when the opportunity arises?
Some opinions here are completely insane.
I think there are several here who should be in care homes.

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by ldyserenity

 

Exactly so why are government and business allowing the FED to devalue the dollar?? This is the real evil

Because once again the FED is not owned by the government and the FED can pretty much do what the hell they want cause they're a private corporation (bank) that's why, plus they paid to put those politicians in office so they could continue to devalue our currency. This is pretty obvious. Ray Charles can see that!

Perhaps Alex Jones was right about this movement.


I'm seeing people with vastly different opinions and beliefs protesting... and they don't even know why they're protesting...

Okay,

For anyone who wants to watch and see who these people are and what they are really all about
www.livestream.com...

Please don't be coming in there with your "Watch Alex Jones!!!! FEMA wants to kill us all!!!!!!" BS.
The Anon mods are very good at smashing people like that with the ban hammer.

It would be too difficult to try to respond to all the crap people are writing in this thread. A lot of you are completely ill-informed and ignorant to what is happening.
And I have to say that it's usually the right-wing Republicans too. But I think they're just jealous that they couldn't do this with the TeaParty, with millions of $'s and media backing.

Originally posted by havenvideo

Originally posted by stereotype
Why isn't occupy wall street bring questioned?

Oh thats right, we've been being led this path with all the other countries doing it. The american dream is not dead just the american work ethic.

You REALLY think this is about people not wanting to work anymore?

Do you not realize that one of the main points of this protest is about corporations TAKING JOBS FROM AMERICANS AND SENDING THEM OVERSEAS?

THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE DRIBBLE YOU ARE SPEWING! Do you honestly not realize that? Do a little research before you "stereotype".

As far as I'm concerned, these people are working their asses off to ensure that all Americans get back their right to make a living.

edit on 2-10-2011 by havenvideo because: (no reason given)

Then they should have gone to congress, because with NAFTA, Clinton and the congress have made it easy for companies to leave and go to a country where it is cheaper to make the items and not have to worry about the import taxes. They charge the same if not more for their products and reap the profits. All thanks to the governments interference.
I also keep hearing how capitalism and the free market has failed. If it wasn't for all the interference from congress and the Fed, the free market would be allowed to operate correctly. Since so many politicians are in the pocket of big corporations, congress interferes. No free market can operate correctly with constant interference. I haven't looked at the Occupy Wall Street websites, but are any of them targeting the Federal Reserve?
I don't have a problem at all with people protesting, but when they disrupt the flow of traffic, and impede people from getting to work, they are breaking the law. If they fail to follow the police orders, they get sprayed and or arrested.
People also say that what they are doing on Wall Street is illegal. That may be, but right now there isn't any investigations of wrong doing. I think THAT is criminal.
People don't have to break the law to get their point across, and to the poster calling for violence, are you insane? You do realize that in todays society that would do more harm than good? If you are for this cause, that is fine, but to call for violence goes against the protest and only makes the other side go "See?! Not only do they have no clue, but we told you this would happen!" You don't win support by violence. You also open up martial law if there are mass riots, and in New York, the Governor and the President would have not problem doing that. How long do you think it would be before other agencies or Police Departments joined in with the NYPD?
I applaud the protestors for standing up and sticking to their guns, and so far the one thing that I think was wrong is the police leading the protestors onto the Brooklyn bridge and then corralling and arresting 400 people. However there may be details that I have not read yet.

I never understood getting a "permit" to protest. You have to get a permit from the same group of people you are protesting against for it to be authorized. This means that they will only allow protests that don't harm their status quo in anyway.

Originally posted by detachedindividual
Okay,

For anyone who wants to watch and see who these people are and what they are really all about
www.livestream.com...

Please don't be coming in there with your "Watch Alex Jones!!!! FEMA wants to kill us all!!!!!!" BS.
The Anon mods are very good at smashing people like that with the ban hammer.

It would be too difficult to try to respond to all the crap people are writing in this thread. A lot of you are completely ill-informed and ignorant to what is happening.
And I have to say that it's usually the right-wing Republicans too. But I think they're just jealous that they couldn't do this with the TeaParty, with millions of $'s and media backing.

I am not a member of the Tea Party, but please oh enlightened one, share with us exactly what great accomplishments you think this movement has achieved of which you think the Tea Party might be jealous? The Tea Party, for good or for ill, won seats in government which has impacted the policy of this country. You'll see that and raise it with...what?

Maybe it's because it is a youth oriented movement, but there is a lot of "I know everything!" arrogance that seems to go with a lot of the posts of protest supporters.

reply to post by ignant


I see a concerted effort across the internet and the AJ crowd who are all Repulicans to paint the protestors in a bad light . What going on here . Who are you all working for .

Thaats what I want to know . i DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE DECIDE TO DO IN THE STREET IF THEY ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE countries direction . But I am interested in the forces behind the different campaigns

Originally posted by NightGypsy
reply to post by nuttin4U

 

Newsflash: business owners have to do what's best for their business....NOT YOURS! It's nothing personal...it's just business! The real problem is this: people have been FOOLISH with their lives, and now....it's biting them in the ass!!! Perhaps people should stop blaming OTHERS for their woe's. Corporations don't have to stay in a place, that is SUCKING THEM DRY. Face it.....the rest of the people in this world...work for pennies on the dollar, and put in 16 hour days...while Americans sit on their FAT LAZY ASSES and do nothing...while making tons of money.

If people started refusing to work 16-hour days for pennies on the dollar, then the corporations would be forced to pay them a reasonable salary, now wouldn't they?

The rest of your comment is just nonsense. Americans sit on their fat lazy asses doing nothing while making tons of money? First of all, have you seen the unemployment rates in America lately? Exactly what jobs are Americans being paid tons of money for while they sit on their ass?

And that is exactly why companies and corporations move out of the country. Americans are sue happy and very expensive. They don't have to pay 3/4 of what they do when they go overseas.

Many, not all or probably even most, but many unemployed do sit back and collect unemployment checks. Funny thing is when I tried to collect after 15 years in the military, I was denied by two states. Thank god for the VA benefits

Nothing will come of this event, what i mean is no significant change.You will see riots from some parts which is a given in any protest. Due to the larger the protesting masses get, the meaning of the protest gets diluted.Also the purpose of this protest effects such a wide range of people from all walks of life. So not everyone has the education to FULLY understand the ways that wall street and the corporate world works but they know enough for the need of change to spark with in them. If a protest gets to a certain size and gains certain level of momentum it is inevitable that riots Will accrue. I for one know that nothing will change through this protest but i encourage that people don't give up hope instead do this on a monthly basis. Because one big protest or sporadic protesting will not get the stubborn corporate world to pay heed. But ALL WAYS know that YOU can NOT control this protest it effects TO MANY people.

I value freedom and free choice, so that makes me ill-informed and ignorant?

oh my..

reply to post by NorEaster

That guy? He's a pay-per-post 1099 who's working a project for some marketing firm that specializes in forum messaging. No one who sits any higher than middle manager within the corporate world would get caught dead on a thread like this. Those sociopaths don't give a damn what any of us think, and certainly wouldn't bother defending whatever it is that they've done to make sure that they (and their families) stay as far away from us as possible. There are so many freelance pay-per-post marketing shills working this board on these kinds of economic and political issues that it's kind of creepy. Talk about a corporate takeover.

You are most definitely correct..Thank you for the insight.. and the heads up...

Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by nuttin4U

 

Corporations don't have to stay in a place, that is SUCKING THEM DRY. Face it.....the rest of the people in this world...work for pennies on the dollar, and put in 16 hour days...while Americans sit on their FAT LAZY ASSES and do nothing...while making tons of money.

So your saying that because some people are forced to work 16 hours a day for pennies, that Americans should be grateful?

That's like telling a victim of robbery, they should feel lucky for being robbed, cause they could have been raped and beaten to death.

Corporations aren't getting sucked dry, and if they are they need to look at the top of the pyramid for the the real bleeders of their money.. bonus's.. perks etc.

Corporations are all about quarterly profit, and finding ways to make more.. and they usually find a way to make the bottom of the rung pay for the greed... overworking the workers they do have , and putting an insane amount of pressure on the little guy..to get more done, on little pay.

Sounds to me like your a corporation owner.. with a big fat salary, and a superb pension plan to boot... or at least an investor in them.

I also don't see many big fat lazy Americans.sitting on their asses making tons of money, unless they are being deceitful ,and scamming....or happen to be a CEO for one of these greedy corporations.

Did you honestly say..."Forced to work"? hahahahah No one is FORCED to do ANYTHING...everything we do...is by choice. And who's "robbing you"? You GAVE the bankers the money....NO ONE put a gun to your head and said: "Gimme the loot, gimme the loot". So then, why didn't you protest, back in 2008...when all this stuff REALLY mattered? The sheeple just GAVE their money away....and the banks gladly accepted it.

This quote, by you, says it all: "Corporations are all about quarterly profit, and finding ways to make more.. and they usually find a way to make the bottom of the rung pay for the greed... overworking the workers they do have , and putting an insane amount of pressure on the little guy..to get more done, on little pay."

Uh, excuse me.......business is about MAKING MONEY....not LOSING IT? Ah-duuuuuuh. Who's in business to lose money? People that work 20 years, and get "laid-off" get mad because they're employer had to, "do what they had to do"...to keep their doors open.

What i'm sensing in all of this...is that people are pissed off...these corporations have decided to split town...and y'all feel like the government "let them"? ahahahahahahah Since when does a government have the authority to keep a business in town...regardless if the stupid people fell for the B.S. or not.

I think, where the energy needs to be focused on, is YOUR GOVERNMENT...and not the people you believe is responsible for the economic collapse! Take it to D.C.! But wait, that's not going to work, because the person responsible for bailing out the banks, is no longer in office. Hey, i know...let's blame this current president...for the past president's actions. Yeah...that sounds about right.

There's an old saying, and it goes like this: "Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, _______________ " So now, tell me....who's the FOOL?

And, just so you know....i'm not a corporate owner, i'm unemployed...and have been, by CHOICE, for 5 years. Why am i unemployed???? Well, because i decided to wisen up...and start a small business....AND i was smart enough to think about my future, by building my own house. I owe no one nothing!!! That's why i have no grievance...nor will i protest. I'm not going to jail...or dying...for YOUR stupidity.

Also, you know what....if you owned you're own business...you'd be giving your "boys", the hook-up, also...and you'd outsource your product, if it meant keeping your business alive, as well.

Again, DON'T BLAME OTHERS, FOR YOUR STUPIDITY. The American people got played....GET OVER IT.

Funny how no one mentioned the wars being a part of our...no, excuse me...YOUR financial woes! Go protest that...and tell them to bring the troops home!

reply to post by stinger94

And that is exactly why companies and corporations move out of the country. Americans are sue happy and very expensive. They don't have to pay 3/4 of what they do when they go overseas.

You really think that corporations move out of the country because Americans are sue happy and expensive? Yes, they don't have to pay the same kind of money they do when they go overseas because they can use slave laborers to do the work for pennies. Do you think it's okay to pay people slave labor wages so their own business can prosper?

Originally posted by Sunsetspawn

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by havenvideo

 

The reason the jobs are going overseas is because the FED devalues the dollar, the government legislates ridiculous regulation, and taxes are unfair due to a corrupt system and waste of the corrupt system. TPTB stack the deck to favor some...and own them....WallStreet is not the enemy

Let's keep ourselves rooted in reality. Jobs go overseas because we can pay a little Chinese boy $1.00 a day to make Air Jordans, and pay dudes named Sanji, that claim their name is Bob, $2.00 an hour to help you fix your Dell. Big tariffs might help, but I don't care anymore. This planet needs the nuclear reset button pressed.

It's union corruption and taxes and too many bureaucratic regulations, a lot of different things go into this pie. So, let's talk about who promotes all these regulations and taxes that cause the overhead of businesses to go up so much shall we???

Originally posted by Anusuia
reply to post by ignant

 

I see a concerted effort across the internet and the AJ crowd who are all Repulicans to paint the protestors in a bad light . What going on here . Who are you all working for .

Thaats what I want to know . i DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE DECIDE TO DO IN THE STREET IF THEY ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE countries direction . But I am interested in the forces behind the different campaigns

What makes you think all AJ fans are Republican? Theres plenty of Indies, Libertarians and probly lefties too.In any case, I did post an AJ article but only two weeks after I first posted the GulagBound article he cited. I was way ahead of him my dear!

Originally posted by ldyserenity

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by ldyserenity

 

Exactly so why are government and business allowing the FED to devalue the dollar?? This is the real evil

Because once again the FED is not owned by the government and the FED can pretty much do what the hell they want cause they're a private corporation (bank) that's why, plus they paid to put those politicians in office so they could continue to devalue our currency. This is pretty obvious. Ray Charles can see that!

It's because the Fed Reserve Act of 1913 was passed in Congress. It was unConstitutional to begin with. Maybe it is time for Congress to take back the control of the currency. Both parties had their own version of the legislation.

reply to post by indisputable


Some protests can work if you go to Town Halls where politicians know their constituents are gonna vote. But some of these protesters are looking for huge sweeps of reform which have a socialist bent to them. Im sorry to say, I cannot support most of it.

reply to post by stinger94


You are right, Clinton did the NAFTA thing to start with. How funny that so many liberals hate all the Free Trade agreements their own guy put in motion.