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reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 01:32 AM by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
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post by captainnotsoobvious



Obama is done, and war with Iran is a certainty. Millions will die my friend!

That you got two stars for that comment is the scary part. Rah rah kick some ass and kill lots of people, eh? How sad..


reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 01:35 AM by saturnine_sweet
reply to post by Thunderheart



Come now, don't confuse anyone with facts. I mean, about 90% of the posts I read in this thread were from people who apparently only have a passing familiarity with facts--or reality, for that matter. And that, ultimately, is what will determine the election. The majority of Americans are either apathetic or willfully ignorant.

One side chants to "blame the CEO's"--because, you know, having jobs and cheap and complex items due to the corporations those CEO's run is just TERRIBLE. Are their flaws there? Sure. Now grow up and realize that people are people, be they CEO's or welfare recipients, and a percentage of them are going to be corrupt and greedy, and use those tools to pay themselves more or to steal from their neighbors. Oh, and learn why wages for laborers have remained stagnant while CEO pay has continued to grow with the economy and inflation of the past few decades--here's a hint: it's those illegals you all love, because they skew the wages of legal workers down and have allowed those EVIL corporations to keep wages stagnant while the cost of living skyrockets, as there are plenty of illegals who will work for almost any wage, since they don't have to pay taxes, such as the payroll taxes (SS, Medicare, FICA) that everyone pays, nor income taxes, no matter how much money they make.

The other side seems to be divided into two chants, but largely meet in the middle: one half wants to force everyone to live by their morals and standards, instead of allowing true freedom, and the other half just thirsts for war, currently against the horrible Muslims who are all terrorists and need to be eradicated. On the fringe, there is a growing group who want to see smaller government and more freedom, but they are attacked by the mainstream left and right, as well as the media, and their organization attempts largely hijacked by other interests, so their progress is limited. As for the rest, they might want to understand the freedom means other people doing things you find abhorrent, and that trying to force a culture to be the way you think they should be--right or wrong--will only ever result in armed resistance. If you want peace and an end to terrorism, you keep the real terrorists penned in their own countries and provide those of their culture who aren't terrorists with the tools to grow their own education and freedom, because when they do, there won't be any need to go kill terrorists. The terrorists own countrymen will be the ones taking them out, instead of looking the other way. If you want a history lesson, look at the arc of Christianity throughout history, and realize that the Muslim faith needs to go through many of the same stages of growth, and our nation's attempts to force those changes will only ever hold them back, to say nothing of the many times our nation has taken advantage of these same people to fight proxy wars.
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reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 01:40 AM by jazzguy
really obama? this guy?





have some faith in ron paul
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reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 01:49 AM by cornucopia
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
It's fairly obvious that, unless something completely insane and unprecedented happens, Obama will be re-elected.

The GOP is, at this point, eating it's own candidates alive (always the threat is a primary) and so far the MOST consistently popular candidate is Mitt Romney. (Hilariously, this could be the mirror or 2004, when a struggling Democrat party choose a certain Massachusetts Senator as its candidate... remember what happened?)

A few things that should be clear at this point:

- The party refuses to align behind Ron Paul. That's not gonna change. Sorry guys.
- The party is very scared of Obama... one poor debate and they've started sticking the knife into Rick Perry... not because of his (insane) policies, but because of his performance. They think he can't win. They're right.
- The Tea Party won't have a real say in the outcome of the primaries (Bachmann is toast, Perry is floundering and the businessmen are winning...looks like we may get another CEO Presidential candidate.... just like Bush Jr.)

So, what does this all mean?

Well, look... do ANY of you think that Romney can ACTUALLY beat Obama? Really?

So, unless someone with a REAL chance (sorry Sarah) enters the field, expect a pretty definitive Obama win.

And whose to blame? The GOP of course. They allowed their ranks to be swamped with ideologues and now their party is completely divided.

Good news for those that don't like Republican "policies" (that's me) but bad news for those that like white rich guys as President.



well said and true in my opinion


the media is controlled you see and so it would be nice to have Ron Paul as president, but yes Obama will win...

i love Obama, i just wish he was stronger and wouldn't cave to corporations...

i wish for pure air, food and water for ALL Humans...

free enrgy technology released/shared...

federal reserve banking system abolished...

thank you

thank you

thank you


reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 02:11 AM by AwakeningAmerica
reply to post by captainnotsoobvious



If you sheep are that lame to vote Obama in again then you deserve everything you get in the near future.

P.S.
If your watching or listening Google, Facebook, Twitter, CIA or what ever agency. Look real close below.

KISS MY GRITS!


reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 02:50 AM by Pseudonaut
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to
post by Mystery_Lady



That's a very vague explanation... most of the time, in fact all of the time that I can remember, the majority of the votes has gone to the winner.... is there an example of that not happening? The electoral college is (essentially) in place to prevent massive states from always choosing the President.


You kiddin'?

Gore won the popular vote in 2000 by over 500,000 votes, but Bush won through the electoral college.

en.wikipedia.org...


reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 02:50 AM by Pseudonaut
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to
post by Mystery_Lady



That's a very vague explanation... most of the time, in fact all of the time that I can remember, the majority of the votes has gone to the winner.... is there an example of that not happening? The electoral college is (essentially) in place to prevent massive states from always choosing the President.


You kiddin'?

Gore won the popular vote in 2000 by over 500,000 votes, but Bush won through the electoral college.

en.wikipedia.org...


reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 03:04 AM by Xcathdra
reply to post by Pseudonaut



It doesnt occur all that often though -

I think only 4 times in Us history.

Gore was a good sport though when he lost -




reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 03:32 AM by Pawel420nj
reply to post by slugfest

your only 17 and already smarter than 3 quarters of America

============= Dr Ronald Paul MD 2012 =================


reply posted on 29-9-2011 @ 03:41 AM by Pawel420nj
reply to post by coastalite

hmmm why didnt i see that but seriously if anyone can take place of the devil its herman cain....i always said he looked like a devil....hes loud mean obnoxious and heartless....maybe hes the blk antichrist not obama....dont know dont care

=============== Dr Ronald Paul MD 2012 ===============
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