reply to post by Thunderheart
Come now, don't confuse anyone with facts. I mean, about 90% of the posts I read in this thread were from people who apparently only have a passing
familiarity with facts--or reality, for that matter. And that, ultimately, is what will determine the election. The majority of Americans are either
apathetic or willfully ignorant.
One side chants to "blame the CEO's"--because, you know, having jobs and cheap and complex items due to the corporations those CEO's run is just
TERRIBLE. Are their flaws there? Sure. Now grow up and realize that people are people, be they CEO's or welfare recipients, and a percentage of them
are going to be corrupt and greedy, and use those tools to pay themselves more or to steal from their neighbors. Oh, and learn why wages for laborers
have remained stagnant while CEO pay has continued to grow with the economy and inflation of the past few decades--here's a hint: it's those illegals
you all love, because they skew the wages of legal workers down and have allowed those EVIL corporations to keep wages stagnant while the cost of
living skyrockets, as there are plenty of illegals who will work for almost any wage, since they don't have to pay taxes, such as the payroll taxes
(SS, Medicare, FICA) that everyone pays, nor income taxes, no matter how much money they make.
The other side seems to be divided into two chants, but largely meet in the middle: one half wants to force everyone to live by their morals and
standards, instead of allowing true freedom, and the other half just thirsts for war, currently against the horrible Muslims who are all terrorists
and need to be eradicated. On the fringe, there is a growing group who want to see smaller government and more freedom, but they are attacked by the
mainstream left and right, as well as the media, and their organization attempts largely hijacked by other interests, so their progress is limited. As
for the rest, they might want to understand the freedom means other people doing things you find abhorrent, and that trying to force a culture to be
the way you think they should be--right or wrong--will only ever result in armed resistance. If you want peace and an end to terrorism, you keep the
real terrorists penned in their own countries and provide those of their culture who aren't terrorists with the tools to grow their own education and
freedom, because when they do, there won't be any need to go kill terrorists. The terrorists own countrymen will be the ones taking them out, instead
of looking the other way. If you want a history lesson, look at the arc of Christianity throughout history, and realize that the Muslim faith needs to
go through many of the same stages of growth, and our nation's attempts to force those changes will only ever hold them back, to say nothing of the
many times our nation has taken advantage of these same people to fight proxy wars.
edit on 9/29/2011 by saturnine_sweet because: (no reason