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Bush jr. was the governor of TX when he was elected not a CEO
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
the businessmen are winning...looks like we may get another CEO Presidential candidate.... just like Bush Jr.)
Originally posted by pirhanna
Originally posted by Misterlondon
how can anyone be to "blame"? i thought the majority of voters decide who wins and becomes president... surely if the blame lies with anyone its the American public?
Ahh, so naive!
The American public doesn't decide,
they decide what they are told to.
Sorry to pick on you, but I couldn't pass up an opportunity to make a serious point.
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by captainnotsoobvious
Obama is done, and war with Iran is a certainty. Millions will die my friend!
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
It's fairly obvious that, unless something completely insane and unprecedented happens, Obama will be re-elected.
The GOP is, at this point, eating it's own candidates alive (always the threat is a primary) and so far the MOST consistently popular candidate is Mitt Romney. (Hilariously, this could be the mirror or 2004, when a struggling Democrat party choose a certain Massachusetts Senator as its candidate... remember what happened?)
A few things that should be clear at this point:
- The party refuses to align behind Ron Paul. That's not gonna change. Sorry guys.
- The party is very scared of Obama... one poor debate and they've started sticking the knife into Rick Perry... not because of his (insane) policies, but because of his performance. They think he can't win. They're right.
- The Tea Party won't have a real say in the outcome of the primaries (Bachmann is toast, Perry is floundering and the businessmen are winning...looks like we may get another CEO Presidential candidate.... just like Bush Jr.)
So, what does this all mean?
Well, look... do ANY of you think that Romney can ACTUALLY beat Obama? Really?
So, unless someone with a REAL chance (sorry Sarah) enters the field, expect a pretty definitive Obama win.
And whose to blame? The GOP of course. They allowed their ranks to be swamped with ideologues and now their party is completely divided.
Good news for those that don't like Republican "policies" (that's me) but bad news for those that like white rich guys as President.
Originally posted by kalisdad
Originally posted by Misterlondon
how can anyone be to "blame"? i thought the majority of voters decide who wins and becomes president... surely if the blame lies with anyone its the American public?
Actually to clarify a point a number of states require their electoral college to vote for the candidate that the people voted for.
While I agree there are issues with the system, it is the American publics fault. We became lazy and apathetic about government and adopted the view of "they will take care of it while I go about my daily life", which was never the intention of the founding fathers.
I would like to see the american people reclaim the government, and to get invovled. Hold the elected people accountible and fire them if they do something stupid (sneidng money to china so they can build highways for example).
We must get reinvolved.
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by Mystery_Lady
That's a very vague explanation... most of the time, in fact all of the time that I can remember, the majority of the votes has gone to the winner.... is there an example of that not happening? The electoral college is (essentially) in place to prevent massive states from always choosing the President.
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by Mystery_Lady
That's a very vague explanation... most of the time, in fact all of the time that I can remember, the majority of the votes has gone to the winner.... is there an example of that not happening? The electoral college is (essentially) in place to prevent massive states from always choosing the President.