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Originally posted by MrXYZ
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Creation is constantly evolving.
End of thread. Thanks for the contributions.
Yet you presented zero proof that "it was created by anything but natural forces
Who says we ever started there?
So you need science to prove evolution of each section of DNA to prove evolution is predictable? Yet you cite the bible and your own unproven ideas of intervention as proof.
If we apply YOUR standards to science we would still be living in caves worshiping spaghetti monsters.
Sorry but everything I have read is clear that the garbage being trolled on this thread is unproven. There are variations of it in what I have read but most of that is hypothesis.
That's your problem I'm not here to teach you reading comprehension.
If you spent the time to understand the information given to you instead of putting all that effort into semantic spin, you might learn something.
Of course I wouldn't have it any other way.
Funny coming from a guy who can overlook the mountain in front of his face.
BTW if you post a reply/comment to flyingfish I'm going to assume it was directed at me, otherwise directly post to whom your question was directed at.
Just saying
Your not understanding the structure in what was presented. Evolution only stands if there is nothing else to believe in.
Yet you presented zero credible evidence proving that while the theory of evolution proves just that relation
Originally posted by wakeupamerica777
reply to post by MrXYZ
Since the Universe is controlled by mathematics the information I found seems to fit the topic. You ask how we can prove evolution is not viable,,,, the universe bares witness to it's creator by the numbers involved. If you do the math,,, and prove the information I shared wrong, please,,, don't hesitate to let me/us know your findings,,, I'd be extremely interested to know!
Anyhow if we aren't from here, and my content proves that, then there is no way that we evolved from a common ancestor with apes. In other words evolution couldn't exist in the way we are believeing it too.
According to the understanding of evolution, we were spring chickens at one point and grew four times the brain matter, almost over night. Left no trace of the change to boot as we aren't able to find any unilatteral fossils. There has to be a fossil out there that shares more DNA between apes and humans, well provided we evolved, but we didn't.
The lack of evidence is overwhelming and exposes all of the hypothesis of evolution for what they really are, a sham. I strongly believe that the witnessed changes in species have nothing to do with the understanding of evolution, but are just natural changes that normally occur within that species. I think scientists are seeing changes and saying "viola!." We have evolution. I understand that evolution is change, but I'm saying not all of it, and it obviously can't be identified as such either.
Quit assuming and honestly start looking at what few facts you do have and what they honestly mean.
DR Michael Persingers telepathy as a fact
Really, I think he was dead on. Besides no one ever answered me on how we ended up with this HAR1 region in our DNA ***** thats not found in any other living species here on the planet***, so where the hell did it come from? Probably the same place flagellum came from.
Nice copy/paste post...but all it shows is that the original author not only doesn't understand the theory of evolution, but also that he has not the slightest clue about quantitative methods and math
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by wakeupamerica777
I said it before, I'll say it again. By my guesstimation, it would take us trillions of years to have evolved in the way precieved.
Problem is earth isn't even that old, so you have two choices here, either we didn't evolve, or we aren't from here.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ
Really, I think he was dead on. Besides no one ever answered me on how we ended up with this HAR1 region in our DNA ***** thats not found in any other living species here on the planet***, so where the hell did it come from? Probably the same place flagellum came from.
Nice copy/paste post...but all it shows is that the original author not only doesn't understand the theory of evolution, but also that he has not the slightest clue about quantitative methods and math
Dude your high. HAR1 is indigenous to humans ONLY. I watched a whole special about it on discovery.
And once again you don't know what you're talking about
The region is found in chimps (and even chickens), it's just different. You know, like us having opposable thumbs while chickens don't.
Your post was answered in full. What's up, is your disabled reading ability playing you up?
I just posted a plethora of links proving you wrong, why are YOU running away?
I must really be getting to you if you keep having fantasies of my death.
Seriously Colin you need to buddy up with a wolve and see how that goes. I would like to know how it turns out.
Define target food as it has no meaning. A victim of 'coextinction'? Please define, never heard of it. They are not from earth?? but you have maintained in the past a dog is a wolf and no matter how we alter them they will always be. Was that another of your ritural lies then?
Thats a good question, lets see... Well they don't appear to have any target food and in fact we actually manufacture food for them. Aside from that, just like us they appear to be scavengers in the wild.
So to answer your question, they are either a victim of coextinction or they are not from earth.
Seriously, you are very limited when it comes to your reading ability. Your disabled learning ability is plain to see.
Seriously it would help if you read your own links.
ITS A RELATIONSHIP you silly childish pudding. You have already admitted we have a relationship with wolves now sparrows. Well done.
It sure is, but its a forced relationship you idiot.
Thanks but you have already admitted its a relationship.
It's a forced relationship, its not natural you moron.
And your name calling and insults tell me you are throwing another childish hissy because you know your wrong. I still think you should face your fears and come out of the closet.
A closet is not a cupboard you ignit, at least you admitting this tells me you don't the difference between where you keep your dishes and your clothes.
No you wouldnt as you have no ability to do so, its been disabled. But as you agree the ant has a relationship with the aphid thats another win for me whether its beyond your ability to understand or not.
They sure do, which I see no connection with our conversation and this fact.
Evidence is not you saying 'I dont believe it, its not natural' remember your rules. Assumptions are not acceptable.
I showed you evidence a long time ago, but you keep ignoring it. Way back when I was suggesting you go through counseling.
That was a start to your enlightenment but actually the conflicts between man and the wolf was not in question. You denied we had a long standing relationship with wolves. I showed evidence that we have. Backed it up with the dog which shows we must have had that very relationship. You went into denial as usual but then showed another relationship we have with wolves. And admitted it.
You mean the links I posted?
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ
Dude your high. HAR1 is indigenous to humans ONLY. I watched a whole special about it on discovery.
And once again you don't know what you're talking about
The region is found in chimps (and even chickens), it's just different. You know, like us having opposable thumbs while chickens don't.
It's not so much your death as it is a reality check.
I must really be getting to you if you keep having fantasies of my death.
Wolves are related to dogs, thats not to say that dogs are wolves.
Define target food as it has no meaning. A victim of 'coextinction'? Please define, never heard of it. They are not from earth?? but you have maintained in the past a dog is a wolf and no matter how we alter them they will always be. Was that another of your ritural lies then?
You must have forgotten out disagreement over the whole idea of it not being a natural relationship. It's man provoked so it doesn't count. Now if the birds and wolves flocked to humans even if they didn't feed them or give them a place to live, then ya, you would be correct, but your not. It's cupboard love.
ITS A RELATIONSHIP you silly childish pudding. You have already admitted we have a relationship with wolves now sparrows. Well done.
So your finally seeing how things are suppose to be in an eco balance anyhow, so its actually a win for me. You can't elude the truth for too long Colin there is to much of it in front of your face even though you don't want to see it.
No you wouldnt as you have no ability to do so, its been disabled. But as you agree the ant has a relationship with the aphid thats another win for me whether its beyond your ability to understand or not
I guess that depends on what you were assuming.
That was a start to your enlightenment but actually the conflicts between man and the wolf was not in question. You denied we had a long standing relationship with wolves. I showed evidence that we have. Backed it up with the dog which shows we must have had that very relationship. You went into denial as usual but then showed another relationship we have with wolves. And admitted it.
It must be really hard for you living in a world with all the disabled abilities you have. I am sorry to point out that yet again that your disabled reading ability has let you down as I never mentioned wolves attacking wolves.
Well that would be wolves killing wolves, when I'm actually talking about wolves attacking humans.
Your making assumptions again. Your judgment is ,lets just say another disabled ability.
From what I have been able to gather in getting to know you and your judgment on here, you are the type of guy that would crawl into a lion cage or a bear cage at the zoo because you are certain we are all the same species and can coexist in the same habitat. Mark my words Colin your a little to friendly with wild life.
The point is we have a relationship with wolves. Look you have already confessed you were wrong and that I was right, stop grovelling.
So you agree we actually don't have a good relationship with wolves.
This thread as you may know was renamed. It is about sharing views on different ideas on how to explain the diverstiy we see around us today without refering to evolution.
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
I dont understand the argument here. Everything in the universe was created. Call it science call it math, call it chaos call it allah call it god call it what you will, its all the same thing, its the meaning you place behind the word and peoples many different interpretations or small minded imaginations attempting to comprehend the incomprehensible that seems to be the argument.
Replace God with the world nature and the argument shall cease.
Look I have warned you nicely. Keep your pervy fantasy's to yourself. Your creepy ability seems not to have been disabled but you need to keep it in check.
It's not so much your death as it is a reality check.
Another U turn How can they be related to wolves if they as you wrote previously are not from here?
Wolves are related to dogs, thats not to say that dogs are wolves.
ITS A RELATIONSHIP. You can tag whatever you like on the front or end but it remains a relationship.
We have a relationship with dogs, which again is cupboard love.
Yes just wanted to see if you knew. So how would dogs be victims of coextinction?
Coextinction just means something else that went extinct because something else did.
Ah the ritual lie. No you called me a fool when I told you all life was dependant on all other life. Another win for me even if you wont admit it. We revisited balanced eco systems a page or two ago. You lost the argument again.
Again I tried to explain to you that every living thing is suppose to be dependant on other living things, in an eco balance.
Tut tut. Assumption again. Proof please or it did not happen.
Except humans of course, we don't seem to be a part of any cycle unless we create it.
Nope you called it the an unnatural relationship (A bit like your fantasy around me). You also failed to show why you believed it was not natural. You lost the point.
You must have forgotten out disagreement over the whole idea of it not being a natural relationship.
Says you but remember your comment about one person not being judge and jury. Your silly restriction was rejected by all. You lost that point.
It's man provoked so it doesn't count.
396 pages and this is the level of your understanding of evolution. Are you really sure you are a borderline genius?
This goes back to the field mouse, if you leave food at your door, and that attracks a field mouse, does he all of a sudden convert to a door mouse ??? No, although I'm sure thorugh your eyes of evolution it is a relationship, but in fact its a forced one, so its not natural.
No mention was made of eco balance, your disabilities are letting you down again. You celebrated your win too soon. What a pity.
So your finally seeing how things are suppose to be in an eco balance anyhow, so its actually a win for me.
Coming from you that means absolutely nothing You are funny.
You can't elude the truth for too long Colin there is to much of it in front of your face even though you don't want to see it.
I take it your comment on blood type is just because your ability to make sense is disabled.
I know that we have a poor relationship with wolves and they usually bite and attack us. Now if you want to call that a relationship in itself, than your wrong, because that wasn't what I was thinking of in terms of how you presented it. You were making it sound like we have an association with them, you never said a bloody type.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ
I just did for the heck of it, and wiki is saying there is a hell of a lot of difference in the sequence between us and chimps. The program I watched made it clear that there was no way we could have evolved based on HAR1.