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Anyone else watching the CNN Rep. Debate with me in a few minutes?

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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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I thought it was good to see those points brought up, and definitely appreciative of the opponents calling him out on those issues..

It is part of his record, and despite his regrets for the vaccine deal, it does apply to giving him the highest office in the land..

I thought he did well with the immigration deal, and can understand where he is coming from on that, he did say that the assistance is to kids who were i the process of securing citizenship.. and with the FED gov't failing to enforce the law, he had to do something..

The vaccination issue was and is way over the top though, I don't see how he can ever shake that one.. opt out isn't a good excuse..




posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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LOL, Obama is far from "ultra-progressive"...his liberal base wouldn't be shaky if he was "ultra-progressive".

Liberals see Obama as being way to moderate and not progressive enough.

That's how I see him...that is my biggest problem with him.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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Did CNN watch the same debate I did???
They're all saying Perry's numbers will go up and they think he won? WTH?



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Thunderheart
Did CNN watch the same debate I did???
They're all saying Perry's numbers will go up and they think he won? WTH?


Yeah, I'm not seeing that at all.

I'm not sure what they were watching either.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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They didn't specifically imply you could opt out either. People had to first refuse to take the vaccine and sign a waiver... he basically forced it on all those 6th grade girls when it wasn't even implemented via the state legislature.
edit on 9/12/2011 by smarterthanyou because: typo



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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Exactly... He's spouting that now like it was a well known deal.. but it wasn't.. selective memory, and weak talking point to try and deflect that issue..



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by smarterthanyou
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Funny how Obama was a "Moderate" during the election cycle and then he gets elected and Woops now he's an ultra progressive, globalist puppet. But hey, people who can turn a phrase and con people are probably the best people to run our country. Anyway, it's been fun folks, gonna check Space Exploration and some other stuff and listen to A.Jones that i downloaded, perhaps watch Ice Road Truckers
Good night and god bless.
-Robbie


It was the other way around, he was ultra liberal before he got in, passed obamacare
and went quickly to the middle.

Remember stopping all the wars, or when he said he was going to close gitmo.
A socialist healthcare plan.
That is ultra liberal.. He has moved to the middle now, because he wants to get re-elcted



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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I guess he became more moderate on some issues and went more liberal on others. Either way he pretty much fip flopped on everything. Once you get into office your mentality changes apparently, lol. He kept alot of the Bush-era war crowd in place, kept guantanamo open. Anyway, night all.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Remember stopping all the wars, or when he said he was going to close gitmo.
A socialist healthcare plan.


Yeah... back when I had hope for this nation and I voted for him. Sad thing is, he's still almost the most desirable candidate right now for me.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by eLPresidente
You never fail to criticize Ron Paul, lol


It's all strategy folks, expect it.

The two-headed, one goal, left-right monstrosities both fear Ron Paul because of their inability to control him.

The hard-core lefties will be in these threads bashing him non-stop right up until the very second he doesn't get the GOP nomination. Then, miraculously, some will suddenly feel a change of heart and think fondly of him. At the very least, the more severe attacks will stop.

Many of them know how much support Obama has lost within his own party, and the only way on earth he'll ever get re-elected is if Paul runs as an independant, diluting the opposing vote.

Oh yes, they want Ron Paul to run, desperately so, but NOT as a Republican.

Obviously, those that support the other GOP candidates will have a less deceptive, more straight-forward approach as to the reasons they feel the need to bash him...it's the primaries after all.

Some of our more obvious posters here really stand out though, almost to the point of comedy. Their grandiose delusions of intellectual superiority even have themselves believing that no-one will be able to see through it.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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I know this video is going to be posted eventually, but here is the part where Paul gets booed and applauded at the same time. I think this shows there is an important split in republican voters views of foreign policy

He gets booed and applauded near the end of the video, particularly when he mentions the US hasnt given the people of Palestine a fair treatment




posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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He was ultraliberal until REALITY slapped him in the face and woke up to certain facts!
He tried to close gitmo, it wouldn't work when he realized no one wanted the terrorists in their country.
He tried giving the terrorists a day in court in New York and was bitchslapped for it.
He passed obamacare with 70% of the country against it.
He started new wars when he realized who really runs the world.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by lernmore


Many of them know how much support Obama has lost within his own party, and the only way on earth he'll ever get re-elected is if Paul runs as an independant, diluting the opposing vote.

Oh yes, they want Ron Paul to run, desperately so, but NOT as a Republican.

Obviously, those that support the other GOP candidates will have a less deceptive, more straight-forward approach as to the reasons they feel the need to bash him...it's the primaries after all.

Some of our more obvious posters here really stand out though, almost to the point of comedy. Their grandiose delusions of intellectual superiority even have themselves believing that no-one will be able to see through it.


Thats exactly what Ron Paul is going to do..

IMO. I do not think he will get the repub primary.
He runs as a independent giving Obama the win.
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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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The debate is on again, I missed some stuff the first go round, going to watch it again.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by buni11687
I know this video is going to be posted eventually, but here is the part where Paul gets booed and applauded at the same time. I think this shows there is an important split in republican voters views of foreign policy

He gets booed and applauded near the end of the video, particularly when he mentions the US hasnt given the people of Palestine a fair treatment




You know what? the booing part is very childless and disrespectful and you know what? Ron paul is correct about that issue.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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You know what? the booing part is very childless and disrespectful and you know what? Ron paul is correct about that issue.


I wonder if you would think it is childish and disrespectful when President Obama gets boo'd during speeches???

OH...or how about if someone screams that he is a LIAR during the State of the Union???

Do you think that is disrespectful and childish????



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Im on Pauls side, but I also believe all the candidates need to have both positive and negative feedback from the audience in these debates. The response to what Paul said showed that there is a specific split between republican voters views on foreign policy.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by buni11687
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Im on Pauls side, but I also believe all the candidates need to have both positive and negative feedback from the audience in these debates. The response to what Paul said showed that there is a specific split between republican voters views on foreign policy.


Well i guess i could say that the tea party has been hijacked by the war monger NEO CONS



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Guys here is the clip on Ron Paul's stance on foreign policy in this debate:

www.youtube.com...

If you watch it back, he got applause, some boos and a few more boos after that, when he finished there was more applause than boos and I don't think the situation was as bad as I originally thought it was. It could've been a small establishment group there that are diehard Perry fans angry that Ron Paul called him out on merke, hilarycare, and raising taxes.

Thats my opinion though.



posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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edit on 12-9-2011 by WildWorld because: (no reason given)




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