Your an atheist and want a life after this one?
Who would provide that?
Think hard.
I hope there is a Life after his one., page 3
reply posted on 29-8-2011 @ 04:44 PM by freespirit1
Originally posted by Monkeygod333
Reply to post by ShadowZion
i dont think youre getting what im saying. you can belief in a higher being without believing in christianity, im doing it right now. I dont believe in the beliefs of christian much the same as you probablx dont believe in hinduism. By living life to the fullest i meant, essentially, just being a good person. Dont be evil. Lol, not new cars and such.
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Christianity is the following of Christ, not the belief in a higher power/being. You can be spiritual about things without being religious. I am constantly talking to people about spiritual things, but once you get an organized religion involved, the conversation is usually over.
reply posted on 29-8-2011 @ 05:40 PM by MamaJ
Ha....I am a Jesus Freak....so yeah I would say A BIG FAT YES to the afterlife.
Death is only a transfer of Energy..... There is no death. You will reap what you sow....so....be loving in all you do and allow your works in Life be out of love and you will be A-ok!
Since you are an atheist....maybe you can relate to these words other than the ones Jesus spoke. It is a grrrreat way to begin learning about the" Death" scenario.
www.near-death.com...
Happy reading my friend! xoxoxo
Jenn
Death is only a transfer of Energy..... There is no death. You will reap what you sow....so....be loving in all you do and allow your works in Life be out of love and you will be A-ok!
Since you are an atheist....maybe you can relate to these words other than the ones Jesus spoke. It is a grrrreat way to begin learning about the" Death" scenario.
www.near-death.com...
Happy reading my friend! xoxoxo
Jenn
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reply posted on 29-8-2011 @ 05:45 PM by jonnywhite
reply to post by applebaum
The older we get, the more we realize how quickly life passes us by. How short life is.
I am agnostic. I was a christian for the first 20 or 25 years of my life. It was only a few years ago when I could say "F*** God!" inside my mind and not feel guilty. God doesn't exist to me.
I'm 34 now.
I think about it too. I tink everyone does. I got to thinking about it when people around me died. And when I could see us all getting older. When I can think back 15 years and see how we were all younger. When I look at pictures of my parents from the 50's. They're about 70 now, but in the pictures they were teenagers. My grandparents died few years ago. Can look at pictures of them when they were 20 to 40 years old. They were so young and strong. Time got them.
I was thinking about it yesterday after seeing Victoria Lake on youtube. She was an actress. Sometimes I will look at pictures of women from the 40's and 50's and realize to myself that they're either very old right now or they're dead. I had a desktop background of Rita Haysworth from 1941 about. I was watching TV about 7 months ago maybe. They were showing old films from 1902 to 1928. One of them was of a young lady from 1924, I think. They had redone the black/white so that it was in color. She was beautiful. She's either exceptionally old or dead. I don't know why, but I like to see old pictures of women because for some reason whenever I see actual young women I always imagine them getting old and dying. I can't seem to enjoy it.
My best answer is that we're all far more alike than we ever thought. Maybe the place we grow up is what we're? There may be a few minor differences in our genes. But for the most part we're all like the same soul that is living in different bodies in different places. I've been thinking lately that if I could live as someone else I would end up just like them. This is the only reasonable idea I can come up with to deal with death. Every other idea seems too far fetched. I don't think we survive death, but maybe it doesn't matter if we're all alike.
Think about it, the differences between each person's DNA are so small. How can that be what makes us what we're? To me, all of the human DNA is like the same person. It's the environment we grow up in that creates this illusion of difference. The illusion is like a costume or a mask.
The older we get, the more we realize how quickly life passes us by. How short life is.
I am agnostic. I was a christian for the first 20 or 25 years of my life. It was only a few years ago when I could say "F*** God!" inside my mind and not feel guilty. God doesn't exist to me.
I'm 34 now.
I think about it too. I tink everyone does. I got to thinking about it when people around me died. And when I could see us all getting older. When I can think back 15 years and see how we were all younger. When I look at pictures of my parents from the 50's. They're about 70 now, but in the pictures they were teenagers. My grandparents died few years ago. Can look at pictures of them when they were 20 to 40 years old. They were so young and strong. Time got them.
I was thinking about it yesterday after seeing Victoria Lake on youtube. She was an actress. Sometimes I will look at pictures of women from the 40's and 50's and realize to myself that they're either very old right now or they're dead. I had a desktop background of Rita Haysworth from 1941 about. I was watching TV about 7 months ago maybe. They were showing old films from 1902 to 1928. One of them was of a young lady from 1924, I think. They had redone the black/white so that it was in color. She was beautiful. She's either exceptionally old or dead. I don't know why, but I like to see old pictures of women because for some reason whenever I see actual young women I always imagine them getting old and dying. I can't seem to enjoy it.
My best answer is that we're all far more alike than we ever thought. Maybe the place we grow up is what we're? There may be a few minor differences in our genes. But for the most part we're all like the same soul that is living in different bodies in different places. I've been thinking lately that if I could live as someone else I would end up just like them. This is the only reasonable idea I can come up with to deal with death. Every other idea seems too far fetched. I don't think we survive death, but maybe it doesn't matter if we're all alike.
Think about it, the differences between each person's DNA are so small. How can that be what makes us what we're? To me, all of the human DNA is like the same person. It's the environment we grow up in that creates this illusion of difference. The illusion is like a costume or a mask.
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reply posted on 29-8-2011 @ 05:49 PM by MamaJ
reply to post by 31Bravo
it always seems like a perfect opportunity for the religious bible thumpers to start quoting the bible which 9 times out of 10 derails the thread because they can't seem to keep their beliefs in their own forums
So...everyone is not like you....does that make anyone not like you less of a person? Are you better? Of course not....and I am sure you were not implying that at all.
Look, we all have different perceptions and it would be nice to allow others their own view without ridicule.
What if the people in the world were not judgmental when they realize someone else has a different view point based on their experience's? It would be much more peaceful!
An Atheist can call a believer names all day and all night (and vice versa)...still don't change a thing. They will still believe and you will still not believe UNLESS you have an experience that changes that belief system...correct?
There is life after death...no matter what you do or do not believe. The question is really....what state of "mind" will you find yourself in? The true you will show itself once the flesh is removed.
Love is the key my friend! Hold it close!!
reply posted on 29-8-2011 @ 06:33 PM by network dude
reply to post by applebaum
unfortunately, nobody here is going to be able to tell you for certain that there is or isn't an afterlife. You have to die to find out. But the wonderful thing about faith is that you can believe whatever you want to and you have a pretty good chance of getting it right as far as you know. If there is nothing, you have not wasted your life lamenting on the wonders of heaven, you have engaged your mind to think beyond what is understood. If you think there is nothing and it brings you to an unhappy place, there is a cure for that. Just make up something that you think the afterlife will include. For me, it's friends, family, beer and golf. Others may not have the same thoughts. I will feel a bit sad for my family members who don't golf and have passed on, but perhaps I can teach them to enjoy the game. If not, I can certainly share beers with them and show then how we enjoy golf when we play bad.
Cheer up. Nobody is forcing you into a box because you labeled yourself an atheist. You may find yourself leaning
towards agnostic or you could just break the mold altogether and believe whatever the hell you want to believe. Just remember, nobody here knows for
sure and no matter what people say, I think most everyone hopes for something after death. Weather they admit that or not is another story.
Have a nice day.
unfortunately, nobody here is going to be able to tell you for certain that there is or isn't an afterlife. You have to die to find out. But the wonderful thing about faith is that you can believe whatever you want to and you have a pretty good chance of getting it right as far as you know. If there is nothing, you have not wasted your life lamenting on the wonders of heaven, you have engaged your mind to think beyond what is understood. If you think there is nothing and it brings you to an unhappy place, there is a cure for that. Just make up something that you think the afterlife will include. For me, it's friends, family, beer and golf. Others may not have the same thoughts. I will feel a bit sad for my family members who don't golf and have passed on, but perhaps I can teach them to enjoy the game. If not, I can certainly share beers with them and show then how we enjoy golf when we play bad.
Cheer up. Nobody is forcing you into a box because you labeled yourself an atheist. You may find yourself leaning
towards agnostic or you could just break the mold altogether and believe whatever the hell you want to believe. Just remember, nobody here knows for
sure and no matter what people say, I think most everyone hopes for something after death. Weather they admit that or not is another story. Have a nice day.
reply posted on 29-8-2011 @ 06:41 PM by Pr0sp3r0
Originally posted by TeroK
(...)
Eckhart Tolle
(...)
If not Meister Eckhardt.
(Beautiful thread)
ETA :
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Matthew, 7.
(echoing TeroK, if not sourcing TeroK echoes)
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reply posted on 29-8-2011 @ 06:49 PM by lizziejayne
reply to post by applebaum
I can already see you've had a myriad of answers, but I thought I'd add mine. I hope it helps.
reply to post by Heartisblack
HeartisBlack I hope it is of help to you too.
Yes, I believe in life after death. Why? That's a little harder to explain. I guess for want of a better explanation, I always have.
I appreciate that will probably be of no help whatsoever, so permit me if I may to explain more: In my life, I have had breakdowns, major depression and levels of anxiety that have had me lifting knives to my throat and wanting no more of life. And yet, I have been unable to do it. Cowardly, perhaps. Knowledgeable of the consequences, definitely.
However, here I am, out the other side bathed in peace and quietness.
If you want answers, if you want peace, I'd wholeheartedly suggest you pray and ask God to give you answers and give you peace. If you honestly want to listen, He will speak to you of what you need.
All I can say is that it worked for me. And I guess that's all that any of us can say
Do you believe in life after death? Can you tell me why? I know you can't give me empirical proof but I would love to read your experiences. I guess I am a little down tonight and wish there was more to life than just the here and now.
I can already see you've had a myriad of answers, but I thought I'd add mine. I hope it helps.
reply to post by Heartisblack
Sweetheart, I am in the same place at you. I wonder if there is a life after this one or a chance to live again. I am so, so lost.
HeartisBlack I hope it is of help to you too.
Yes, I believe in life after death. Why? That's a little harder to explain. I guess for want of a better explanation, I always have.
I appreciate that will probably be of no help whatsoever, so permit me if I may to explain more: In my life, I have had breakdowns, major depression and levels of anxiety that have had me lifting knives to my throat and wanting no more of life. And yet, I have been unable to do it. Cowardly, perhaps. Knowledgeable of the consequences, definitely.
However, here I am, out the other side bathed in peace and quietness.
If you want answers, if you want peace, I'd wholeheartedly suggest you pray and ask God to give you answers and give you peace. If you honestly want to listen, He will speak to you of what you need.
All I can say is that it worked for me. And I guess that's all that any of us can say
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