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Snipe Hunt : The Threat That Never-Was, New World Order, Chasing Your Tail...

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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 05:48 PM
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For many people on ATS there is such a strong and indoctrinated belief in a New World Order.

They can and will point to it, claim to know it intimately, show proof, evidence, or hard facts on it.

So for some people this is going to be disputing their claims and for others this will open their eyes.

I've shared with you members here now off and on since 2005 many ideas.

Some re-hashing opinions and other re-examining them in a different perspective.

Others so different as to examine conspiracy theory in a totally different light.



Finally I have come to the conclusion that I believe there is no "New World Order".

Considering I've been investigating it now since 1979 this is something I can say I know.

Whether you agree or disagree with me is irrelevant as I honestly have finally made up my mind.

Fifth Column Movement : The United Nations, Your Country, and Defending Your Rights...

...and...

The Boy Who Cried N.W.O. : Are You Watching Puppet or Puppet Master's?

...and...

Mission Creep : Agenda of An Alleged "New World Order" and Those Doing Their Bidding [WRAP]

As you can plainly see I've done quite a few threads along the same premise each time getting closer.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Snipe Hunt

A snipe hunt, a form of wild-goose chase that is also known as a fool's errand, is a type of practical joke that involves experienced people making fun of credulous newcomers by giving them an impossible or imaginary task.

The origin of the term is a practical joke where inexperienced campers are told about a bird or animal called the snipe as well as a usually preposterous method of catching it, such as running around the woods carrying a bag or making strange noises such as banging rocks together.

Incidentally, the snipe (a family of shorebirds) is difficult to catch for experienced hunters, so much so that the word "sniper" is derived from it to refer to anyone skilled enough to shoot one.

A wild goose chase can also be more serious, either a deliberate attempt to thwart opponents by sending them off on a quest based on misinformation, or a mistake on one's own part leading to a hopeless quest.


This has been a long-term and ongoing propaganda mission.

Run by both the U.N. and U.S. Government.

Telling you about the big, bad, boogeyman, and shaking the bushes, scaring you to act.



It is run like a counter-intelligence operation pure and simple as a False-Flag Operation.


Quote from : Wikipedia : False-Flag

False flag (aka Black Flag) operations are covert operations designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities.

The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is flying the flag of a country other than one's own.

False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and can be used in peace-time.


Using Chinese Whispers to root out those people who would fight or resist against it.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Chinese Whispers

In the game variously known as Chinese whispers, telephone, grapevine, broken telephone, whisper down the lane, Развален телефон (Bulgarian for broken telephone) gossip, secret message, Le téléphone arabe (French for "Arab phone"), Stille Post (German for "Silent Post"), Gioco del Telefono (Italian for "Telephone Game"), Telefono senza fili (Italian for "Cordless Phone"), Telefone sem fio (Portuguese for "Cordless Phone"), Głuchy telefon (Polish for "deaf telephone"), Telefonul fără fir (Romanian for "Cordless Phone"), Испорченный телефон (Russian for "damaged telephone") and pass the message, the first player whispers a phrase or sentence to the next player.

Each player successively whispers what that player believes he or she heard to the next. The last player announces the statement to the entire group. Errors typically accumulate in the retellings, so the statement announced by the last player differs significantly, and often amusingly, from the one uttered by the first. Some players also deliberately alter what is being said in order to guarantee a changed message by the end of it. The game is often played by children as a party game or in the playground. It is often invoked as a metaphor for cumulative error, especially the inaccuracies as rumours or gossip spread, or, more generally, for the unreliability of human recollection.

In the United States, "telephone" is the most common name for the game. The name "Chinese whispers" reflects the former stereotype in Europe of the Chinese language as being incomprehensible. It is little-used in the United States and may be considered offensive.However, it remains the common British English name for the game.


Therefore making you decide your own fate by either disengaging politically, discrediting yourself, and or isolating yourself from your closest friends, family, and co-workers in order to make you step out into the fringe elements of society like all the other "lone-nut" people who end up doing stupid things and or who become later labeled as "quiet neighbor next door, who never talked to anyone, and no one suspected" on the Mainstream Media.

Chinese Whispers


A good example of this is present in the book below with MI-5 and MI-6 trying catch spies.

Spy Catcher: The Candid Autobiography of a Senior Intelligence Officer




Amazon Review :

Spycatcher: The Candid Autobiography of a Senior Intelligence Officer (also Spycatcher), is a book written by Peter Wright, former MI5 officer and Assistant Director, and co-author Paul Greengrass.

It was published first in Australia.

Its allegations proved scandalous on publication, but more so because the British Government attempted to ban it, ensuring its profit and notoriety.


For decades both MI-5 and MI-6 were struggling with people like Kim Philby.

1) Step One : Flushing Out A Spy - Create a "barium meal", raw intelligence, that will irradiate the person who spreads it to the spying organization, the citizens of the nation who disagree with Government, when it comes back from them through their information network. It needs to be something patently false, yet believable, something only a certain 3 to 5 people know is spread as false information, yet is believable to draw the spy into a trap.

2) Step Two : Spreading Disinformation - Pick a target person, within the organization, and spread the rumor, making certain to not tell anyone outside of the trusted circle. Make it something that the targeted organization, alliance who is spying, cannot resist, and cannot confirm, yet they want to tell you or others about about it somehow whether through verbal, physical, or whatever cues possible. Make it about a member of your inner circle, who will not be damaged by the rumor, and who will not take offense because they are in on the secret.

3) Step Three : Sowing Seeds of Doubt In Competitor Alliance - Make the rumor also something that will cause chaos, confusion, and mistrust within the competition, making them tear themselves apart trying desperately to confirm it.

By the way, this is all C.I.A. type activities, it's pure counter-intelligence and counter-coup techniques.

The Craft of Intelligence: America's Legendary Spy Master on the Fundamentals of Intelligence Gathering for a Free World




Amazon Review :

If the experts could point to any single book as a starting point for understanding the subject of intelligence from the late twentieth century to today, that single book would be Allen W. Dulles's The Craft of Intelligence. This classic of spycraft is based on Allen Dulles's incomparable experience as a diplomat, international lawyer, and America's premier intelligence officer. Dulles was a high-ranking officer of the CIA's predecessor-the Office of Strategic Services-and was present at the inception of the CIA, where he served eight of his ten years there as director.

Here he sums up what he learned about intelligence from nearly a half-century of experience in foreign affairs. In World War II his OSS agents penetrated the German Foreign Office, worked with the anti-Nazi underground resistance, and established contacts that brought about the Nazi military surrender in North Italy. Under his direction the CIA developed both a dedicated corps of specialists and a whole range of new intelligence devices, from the U-2 high-altitude photographic plane to minute electronic listening and transmitting equipment. Dulles reveals much about how intelligence is collected and processed, and how the resulting estimates contribute to the formation of national policy.

He discusses methods of surveillance, and the usefulness of defectors from hostile nations. His knowledge of Soviet espionage techniques is unrivaled, and he explains how the Soviet State Security Service recruited operatives and planted "illegals" in foreign countries. He spells out not only the techniques of modern espionage but also the philosophy and role of intelligence in a free society threatened by global conspiracies.

Dulles also addresses the Bay of Pigs incident, denying that the 1961 invasion was based on a CIA estimate that a popular Cuban uprising would ensue. This account is enlivened with a wealth of personal anecdotes. It is a book for readers who seek wider understanding of the contribution of intelligence to our national security.


It starts on college campuses with recruiting, rumor spreading, and civil rights violations.

The Shadow University: The Betrayal Of Liberty On America's Campuses




Amazon Review :

At first glance, this title is just another entry in the roster of books opposed to political correctness at American universities, yet it's surprisingly good--certainly the best of its type since Dinesh D'Souza's Illiberal Education appeared in 1991.

Kors and Silverglate are hard-core civil libertarians turned off by the "hidden, systematic assault upon liberty, individualism, dignity, due process, and equality before the law" that they describe as rampant on campuses.

Theirs is not so much a brief against academic multiculturalism, but an eye-opening narrative about how the modern university "hands students a moral agenda upon arrival, subjects them to mandatory political reeducation, sends them to sensitivity training, submerges their individuality in official group identity, intrudes upon private conscience, treats them with scandalous inequality, and, when it chooses, suspends or expels them."

Through well-told stories and anecdotes (including an excellent chapter-long sketch of the University of Pennsylvania's semi-famous "water buffalo" incident), Kors and Silverglate make their case and make it well. --John J. Miller --


The problem with this is that each and every one of you is a "game-player".

Each time you whisper the name "New World Order" you further the cause.

So in essence by your very warning you become a literal conspirator against the system.

And it is driven through fear, paranoia, suspicion, and conspiracy itself.

The Science of Fear: Why We Fear the Things We Shouldn't--and Put Ourselves in Greater Danger




Publishers Weekly : Amazon Review :

Gardner, a columnist and senior writer for the Ottawa Citizen, is both matter-of-fact and entertaining in this look at fear and how it shapes our lives. Although we are capable of reason, says Gardner, we often rely instead on intuitive snap judgments. We also assume instinctively, but incorrectly, that if examples of something can be recalled easily, that thing must be common.

And what is more memorable than headlines and news programs blaring horrible crimes and diseases, plane crashes and terrorist attacks? In fact, such events are rare, but their media omnipresence activates a gut-level fear response that is out of proportion to the likelihood of our going through such an event. It doesn't help that scientific data and statistics are often misunderstood and misused and that our risk assessment is influenced less by the facts than by how others respond.

Gardner's vivid, direct style, backed up by clear examples and solid data from science and psychology, brings a breath of fresh air and common sense to an emotional topic. (June) Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.


As well a part of this campaign is politicians name-dropping "New World Order".

George Bush New World Order


Meanwhile people get upset, start prepping, dig bunkers, arm themselves to the teeth.
edit on 8/12/11 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight Into the Post.




posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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Politicians werent "name dropping". In 1991, in the aftermath of the fall of the soviet empire, speaking of a new world order was kinda appropriate.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by Cassius666
Politicians werent "name dropping". In 1991, in the aftermath of the fall of the soviet empire, speaking of a new world order was kinda appropriate.


They name drop and drop keywords all the time.

It's put into their speeches specifically for that purpose.

Considering most conspiracy theorists have known those three words?

Ask any conspiracy theorist over 30 years old when they heard those words first spoken.

It has been going now at least since right after WWII at the start of the Cold War.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:30 PM
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Strip it all down Spart, to the bare bones, What are you saying ....directly!
That in your opinion there is no 'elite', 'agenda', design of a select by a select?
Because if youre saying that then we're not seeing the same active canvas.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
Strip it all down Spart, to the bare bones, What are you saying ....directly!
That in your opinion there is no 'elite', 'agenda', design of a select by a select?
Because if youre saying that then we're not seeing the same active canvas.


Yup - I have read your post, that you have obviously spent a great deal of time on................................and I can't make out what the hell you are trying to say!!!



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
Strip it all down Spart, to the bare bones, What are you saying ....directly!
That in your opinion there is no 'elite', 'agenda', design of a select by a select?
Because if youre saying that then we're not seeing the same active canvas.


I thought that was pretty direct.


Oh no, there is an elite agenda, there always is an elite agenda.

Do you know not know what a "snipe hunt" is and how it's done?

It is something done to someone just to waste their time.

Fulfilling an agenda in itself.

Ever had that pulled on you before?

Snipe Hunting With Danny - Very Dangerous


I never expected your reply because I'm laughing so hard over here.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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You can call it want you want. Sure you can't find an office or a phone number to contact the NWO. But that doesn't change the fact that we have money manipulators with endless amounts of wealth and resources, consolidating even more wealth resources and power into their own hands for a broader agenda. That agenda doesn't include the well-being of you or anyone else but themselves.

I've only been doing this for 1 decade as opposed to 3, and it doesn't take a genious to figure out what is really going on in government and with geo-politics. No S&F because I think this thread indirectly supports their globalist agenda, and it is actually quite sickening that some people are not only not fighting against this one world government movement, but some even try to justify and make it sound like the norm. Something naturally occuring. Where this is not the case.

You're entitled to your opinion though.

The more of these trends I see I realize that everything has gone so far for so long there is no figthing back.

They've won.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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I understand the 'snipe hunt example' but you've lost me on this one.
I firmly believe there is an 'association, organization, group', of families that control through their design and implementation, massive blocks of resources, either corporate, natural, financial, political, religious and military,
that do share an end goal, an agenda, that outlives each preceding generation.
That the goal, the agenda itself, is a passed on legacy, a family trust, and is part of their family core belief system.
I believe they are bored and mentally ill and that their perversions are as equally dark as their souls,
I believe with their enormous wealth that they purchase influence and control and have now over an extended period of time purchased everything; they own the media to directly pump into the worlds conscience whatever direction or propaganda they desire, they own the banks to move and control the failure or success of nations, states, and individuals, they own the drugs to make you sick or make you better, they own the governments (except a few) and the ones they dont own are sold to us as evil or rogue, they own the past through suppressed knowledge and they own the future through suppressed invention and knowledge,
I believe they are very real, they are very far removed from the average persons daily lifestyle and that they wear the layers of an onion on purpose but unlike an onion they are very solid.
Layer upon layer of corporation, and corporate expense, of government and government expense shares a strand of their woven web.
There may be some who deny or are convinced that there is no 'order' to the new world order, or that there is no new world order at all, and I would say to them;
The snipe hunt is an action, it is an act, which occupies, controls, and consumes not only your resources, your time, your direction, your energy, your thoughts, your state of mind, but more importantly, it controls the truth and your life and what is happening to you and yours.
If you require more evidence of problem - reaction - solution than that, if you cannot see the obvious multigenerational extended longterm gameplan, if you cant see the 'order' and 'organization' in the nwo,
I dont believe it.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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I only respectfully disagree, Sir.
All this is in my humble opinion, of course.

Because in so much as people think there is a NEW WORLD ORDER...
There really is a "new" way that will eventually take over.

But in reality, there is a "new" world order.
Because the "old" world order has been dismantled, destroyed, etc...

This "new" world order is globalization.
Or one global enterprise, which is being systematically intergrated as we speak.
The "old" world order ended as soon as America spread herself globally.
Either in the name of democracy, or for corporate capitalism, whatever you want to call it.

The "old" world order involved borders, isolationism, and countries providing for just themselves.
Basically it ended since the inception of a League of Nations, or United Nations...i.e., after WWII.

This "new" world order involves nations trading between nations, and global economies.
A "new" way of governance...


Novus Ordo Seclorum.

New order of the ages.

It's here or in my mind it is being slowly implemented.
It is a new order of world government.
Not separate governments ruling just their own citizens.

Every leader has said it.
They believe there should be a unified world government.


So how is it not a "new" world order, if the "old" order has been dismissed?







posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by godfather420
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


You can call it want you want. Sure you can't find an office or a phone number to contact the NWO. But that doesn't change the fact that we have money manipulators with endless amounts of wealth and resources, consolidating even more wealth resources and power into their own hands for a broader agenda. That agenda doesn't include the well-being of you or anyone else but themselves.


Quite right.

Of course they will manipulate Wall Street and the commerce of America.

Not to mention the economy being tanked on purpose.

And you are correct that it benefits those in power and no one else.

But if you were to ever find a switchboard to offices of a "New World Order"?

Sorry, this number is not in service, never has been, keep dialing different extensions.



Originally posted by godfather420
I've only been doing this for 1 decade as opposed to 3, and it doesn't take a genious to figure out what is really going on in government and with geo-politics. No S&F because I think this thread indirectly supports their globalist agenda, and it is actually quite sickening that some people are not only not fighting against this one world government movement, but some even try to justify and make it sound like the norm. Something naturally occuring. Where this is not the case.


You think I support their globalist agenda or perhaps this thread directly or indirectly?

No.

I do not support anyone who seeks global power.

Because I know that to have global power means surrendering nationality.

I prefer my nation over any other yet I still see the writing on the wall.

I know I am only one person and too many people are chasing ghosts that don't exist.


Originally posted by godfather420
You're entitled to your opinion though.


As are you and every other citizen of the world.


Originally posted by godfather420
The more of these trends I see I realize that everything has gone so far for so long there is no figthing back.


Not in any capacity that people are currently trying because all of those are doomed.


Originally posted by godfather420
They've won.


No one has won until the end game comes and we're hung at the gallows.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
I understand the 'snipe hunt example' but you've lost me on this one.


Okay.

Forgive the laughing earlier but the irony of your answer was too much.

Unintentionally through my thread your answer came across as you going on a snipe hunt.

Within this very thread.

The irony was too much.

I firmly believe there is an 'association, organization, group', of families that control through their design and implementation, massive blocks of resources, either corporate, natural, financial, political, religious and military,
that do share an end goal, an agenda, that outlives each preceding generation.

So do I.

There has been since the dawn of time.

Some real, some phantoms or ghosts, some a mixture of both.

This is that last one as a mixture.

These people figured out to defeat the human will of the entire world they needed to be craftier.


Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
That the goal, the agenda itself, is a passed on legacy, a family trust, and is part of their family core belief system.


Correct.

In each country this happens.

By retarded elite who believe they own the world.

When they own nothing other than physical wealth which is nothing.

Not compared to our minds and willpower.


Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
I believe they are bored and mentally ill and that their perversions are as equally dark as their souls,
I believe with their enormous wealth that they purchase influence and control and have now over an extended period of time purchased everything; they own the media to directly pump into the worlds conscience whatever direction or propaganda they desire, they own the banks to move and control the failure or success of nations, states, and individuals, they own the drugs to make you sick or make you better, they own the governments (except a few) and the ones they dont own are sold to us as evil or rogue, they own the past through suppressed knowledge and they own the future through suppressed invention and knowledge,
I believe they are very real, they are very far removed from the average persons daily lifestyle and that they wear the layers of an onion on purpose but unlike an onion they are very solid.


I agree that they are bored, mentally ill, even their brain chemistry is like A.K.C. dogs.

Too far gone and inbred within their families so as to not mix with "commoners".

Their perversion knows no bounds in that their minds are fogged by greed and elitism.

When someone tries breeding A.K.C. dogs they eventually fall into that trap of inbreeding.

The reason why A.K.C. animals bite their master, statistically speaking, more than mutts?

They brain, through a chemical process only, grows too big for their skull.

It is a physical and chemical growth of the brain material not of intelligence.

They have very crafty yet limited intelligence in that they are not smart.

They are in fact stupid as Hell but amoral and immoral like sociopaths or psychopaths.

They in fact are quite mentally troubled and their bloodlines are mentally handicapped.


Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
Layer upon layer of corporation, and corporate expense, of government and government expense shares a strand of their woven web.


Yes.

Their craft is likened to spiders spinning webs only capable of catching the ignorant fly.

Those who fly into their web of greed, malice, and game playing to be seduced.

Or those too damn stupid who pick up guns so they can be killed through the system.

They believe no one can resist being bought by them.

There are a few in fact who are honorable enough to never be bought.

You're speaking to one of those who cannot be bought by speaking to me.

Honor above all else.


Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
There may be some who deny or are convinced that there is no 'order' to the new world order, or that there is no new world order at all, and I would say to them;
The snipe hunt is an action, it is an act, which occupies, controls, and consumes not only your resources, your time, your direction, your energy, your thoughts, your state of mind, but more importantly, it controls the truth and your life and what is happening to you and yours.


Yes.

It is a giant snipe hunt.

It is the combined efforts of our own Government and the United Nations.

It is a giant diversion.

It is a propaganda campaign meant to make you go crazy trying to figure it out.

Both the U.S. and U.N. as well as other countries are fully involved.


Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
If you require more evidence of problem - reaction - solution than that, if you cannot see the obvious multigenerational extended longterm gameplan, if you cant see the 'order' and 'organization' in the nwo,
I dont believe it.


I don't require any more evidence.

I know what is and isn't.

It is an agenda and a plan and it isn't the "New World Order".

It is the U.S. and U.N. using that name as cover and distraction.

What is happening is that the U.S. Government and U.N. are playing games.

Their agenda is the combined usage of your mind to make you defeat yourself.

There is a one-world government in action and has been for more than half a century.

Probably even further back than that as well.

The game they are playing is to use that set of keywords "New World Order".

If you're looking for a N.W.O. and pointing to it you are falling for the ruse.

The one-world government is in fact the United Nations with America acting as her whore.

And the U.N. is the pimp sticking the U.S. on the street corner to be screwed.

Each night the whore gives up her money to her pimp.

Think of the one-world government in that context and it makes it simpler.

Now, take the "John", as being American and different nations citizens.

If the "John" is in love with the whore due to blind ignorance?

"Love" being nationalism here.

How does the pimp get rid of this nutcase "John" ruining his prostitution gig?

Simple.

He tells the "John" the whore has a bigger pimp who this pimp reports to.

And that Mr. Big Pimp is coming for the "John" and he is going to no longer allow the whore to see him.

Meanwhile the original pimp and the whore are in cahoots and laughing at the "John".

Pulling a con on multiple levels.

The "John" cannot call Law Enforcement because this is a unique situation.

Neither can he reason with the original pimp or Mr. Big Pimp because they "talk".

And the "John" has never seen Mr. Big Pimp nor will he until he gets there.

"But he's coming". says the pimp to the John.

Classic misdirection.

The same goes of for rock star's who need protection from certain women.

They have roadies writing "TULSA" on certain groupies backstage pass.

TULSA spelled backwards?

These are the same groupies the roadies know will be clingy and stalkerish.

The same as the "John" who fell in love with the whore.

Those type of people, like real and true patriots, would do anything to get their goal.

Keeping their country no matter what others do or say.

Even arming to the teeth and going on the offensive.
edit on 8/13/11 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight Into the Post.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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Like I said, call it what you want. A "game" or a "snipe hunt".

The fact is this so called "game" is being played in a very real world, and alot of good people are getting hurt in the process and it needs to stop.

Yes this thread does "indirectly" support their agenda because its more mind games. I'm not saying that was your intention but what is it exactly you're trying to say here? There's nothing to worry about its just how things work? Please tell me.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by godfather420
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


Like I said, call it what you want. A "game" or a "snipe hunt".

The fact is this so called "game" is being played in a very real world, and alot of good people are getting hurt in the process and it needs to stop.

Yes this thread does "indirectly" support their agenda because its more mind games. I'm not saying that was your intention but what is it exactly you're trying to say here? There's nothing to worry about its just how things work? Please tell me.


Of course.

It is a game and it is being played with our very lives.

I never said do not worry.

Please read what I replied to HappilyEverAfter with.

I'm not playing any games.

I've been one who supports that type of behavior.

And I've always been someone who stops people who do.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by havok
I only respectfully disagree, Sir.
All this is in my humble opinion, of course.


That's fine disagree all you want.

I respect people more for disagreeing yet conversing about a topic.

Humility is not needed.


Originally posted by havok
Because in so much as people think there is a NEW WORLD ORDER...
There really is a "new" way that will eventually take over.


Okay, let me stop you here, read what I replied to HappilyEverAfter.

It was a diversion.

It has also already succeeded to an extent.

Once Russia collapsed, which was pre-planned, since "Russia" was created.

When that happened we got over the hump so to speak of this creation being born.


Originally posted by havok
But in reality, there is a "new" world order.
Because the "old" world order has been dismantled, destroyed, etc...


Correct.

Somewhat.

The term "New World Order" is what I'm specifically dismantling here.


Originally posted by havok
This "new" world order is globalization.


Globalization is happening on many, many stages, and in various ways and venues.

From multiple countries having their monetary system collapsed.

To the indoctrination into electronic money and killing paper money.

The infrastructure has been in place for decades.

One such company assisting all of this is I.B.M. and Destron Fearing.


Quote from : Destron Fearing Website

Destron Fearing is a global leader in innovative animal identification.

With presence in over 40 countries worldwide we seek to provide real world ID solutions to match the ever increasing complexity and opportunities related to animal identification.

Since 1945 we have provided innovative products addressing the needs of livestock producers, companion animal owners, horse owners, wildlife managers and government agencies.

Full complement of radio frequency identification products and software solutions

Destron Fearing provides a full complement of radio frequency identification products and software solutions to automate the collection of critical livestock production and carcass information.

Individual and herd information can then be easily transferred between all parties involved in the production and retail of meat products.

Information sharing allows the food industry to meet the discriminating demands of the market place.


In tandem with the regular actions we as conspiracy theorist's see there is a much deeper one.

The sidelining on us as voices within the regular community.

Any many of the things the conspiracy theory community believe they have right are wrong.

Completely.

Take "animal mutilations" and "alien abductees" for one such incorrect thing.

Destron Fearing, I.B.M., the R.F.I.D. project, and covert Government operations are doing that.

There's not one single damned "alien" who has stepped foot on planet Earth.

Another snipe hunt.


Originally posted by havok
Or one global enterprise, which is being systematically intergrated as we speak.
The "old" world order ended as soon as America spread herself globally.
Either in the name of democracy, or for corporate capitalism, whatever you want to call it.


Like a franchise of "democracy" America became McDemocracy.


Originally posted by havok
The "old" world order involved borders, isolationism, and countries providing for just themselves.
Basically it ended since the inception of a League of Nations, or United Nations...i.e., after WWII.

This "new" world order involves nations trading between nations, and global economies.
A "new" way of governance...

Novus Ordo Seclorum.

New order of the ages.

It's here or in my mind it is being slowly implemented.
It is a new order of world government.
Not separate governments ruling just their own citizens.

Every leader has said it.
They believe there should be a unified world government.

So how is it not a "new" world order, if the "old" order has been dismissed?


Again, the keywords, are what I am disputing, only as a set of boogeymen.

Classic elitist misdirection.

See this, see this, TAKE THAT.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by godfather420
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Like I said, call it what you want. A "game" or a "snipe hunt".

The fact is this so called "game" is being played in a very real world, and alot of good people are getting hurt in the process and it needs to stop.

This "game" is so deeply rooted in our society how do we even know wether we are playing or not?
I'll tell you...


When you see people saying they promote the NWO...they are caught in the game and do not realize that the "NWO" needs no promotion. It is here and has been since before they were born...

When you see people saying they fight the "NWO"...they are pawns in the game and do not realize that thier "fight" was calculated into the game before they were born.

When you see people say that the "NWO" does not exist...they have already defeated themselves...


Yes this thread does "indirectly" support their agenda because its more mind games. I'm not saying that was your intention but what is it exactly you're trying to say here? There's nothing to worry about its just how things work? Please tell me.


A majority of the threads on this site "indirectly" (some more directly than others) support the agenda. Intentions have become less and less relavant, it is the results that matters.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" (quote by: i dont care who)

So, how do we stop the game? A question i cant answer, sure i could give ideas and "opinions" but would you listen? What of the people in opposition to my ideas and opinions, how many of them would listen, nevermind head the advice? and the cycle (the game) continues.

But here is something to consider;

As long as there are people in the world with children to protect, the game will go on,
As long as there are people in the world with ailments to be cared for, the game will go on,
As long as there are people in the world with hunger, the game will go on,
As long as there are people in the world who think, the game will go on,
and there is only on thing that can stop it all... A NEW World Order...

the New World Order
Leader of the New World Order
Essence of the New World Order

Plaugue or Panacea?

"a student in the humanities has constantly before him a number of competing and incommensurable solutions to these problems, solutions that he must ultimately examine for himself ."





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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Great thread by the way...
cant wait to see how it evolves

S&F
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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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I never call "IT" the "New World Order" I prefer "Global Governance" since that is a concrete idea given flesh by the United Nations Commission on Global Governance LINKY and Global Governance 2025 | Atlantic Council

There is also the World Trade Organization and Global Governance:

The WTO and Global Governance: Future Directions


UNITED NATIONS UNIVERSITY

The World Trade Organisation (WTO) is mandated by governments to achieve full employment, a steady growth in real income, and higher standards of living for its 150 plus member countries. It’s role is also to ensure the optimal use of the world’s resources in accordance with sustainable development. As a result, the WTO has greatly extended its reach into non-traditional areas of trade policy. This has taken place against the reality that the WTO is only part of a more global structure of international agreements with overlapping objectives and commitments, many of which now find their place on centre-stage at the WTO.

These commitments serve to shape domestic policy choices and constitute a principal feature of global governance. The WTO has a principal role to play in determining the borderline between domestic policy choices and international commitments....


And we have another article Written by the Director of the World Trade Organization that dovetails with the above. This article was published a year ago in The Global Journal: Of What Use is Global Governance? by Pascal Lamy, Director, World Trade Organization. He speaks of the European Union as sort of an intermediate stage.

...the very incarnation of an international organization of integration in which Member States have agreed to relinquish sovereignty in order to strengthen the coherence and effectiveness of their actions.

...If there is one place on earth where new forms of global governance have been tested since the Second World War, it is in Europe. European integration is the most ambitious supranational governance experience ever undertaken. It is the story of interdependence desired, defined, and organized by the Member States. In no respect is the work complete—neither geographically nor in terms of depth (i.e., the powers conferred by the Member States to the E.U.), nor, obviously, in terms of identity....

Our challenge today is to establish a system of global governance that provides a better balance between leadership, effectiveness, and legitimacy on the one hand, and coherence on the other...



What I see is an elite interested in world domination trying different method for controlling the masses.

For example the Soviet Union owed its CONTINUING existence to being propped up by the International bankers and US Corporations. Cargill, a privately held grain trader. was shipping them US grain without the "official knowledge" of the US government. LINKY

Allegedly Hitler was also involved with the International bankers. Linky 1 and Linky 2



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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Crim, your reference to ww2 and adolf is the perfect 20/20 hindsight that clearly shows "the hand" at work in global design.
The ONLY reason germany 'lost' the war was because they lost favor with the purse strings once their part of the agenda was underway, and the advancement of the Balfour in relation to the concordant with the vatican not only completed the problem, it provided the reaction and the 'solution' is still underway.
Had their been no boogeyman created by germany in the jews, we'd have no boogeyman now in the nazi,
and this is playing well with the muslim boogeyman.
The globalization will rely on once again an emormous loss of life.


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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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Spart,
youre splitting hairs in name assignment, nwo/global government its 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.
I've seen many ask, "how do we end it" ?
I only see 3 real ways this can play out;
Military intervention.(surgical strikes against certain key targets).
A complete global fail of the power grids.
A global plague.

We need to be thrust back into slower closer to nature times, we do not have the skill set to have this much technology, and I know some will say I'm a loon, but I offer the world outside your door as proof.

minus any one of those 3 happening.........strap in........a rough ride is coming fast
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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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Well I would agree that it is a snipe hunt of sorts - but not the one you imagine is happening.

The elites throughout the ages have been led around by the nose by these things.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



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