What Are We Capable Of - THIS IS ANONYMOUS!

The way I see this video is that it is hard to grasp for all of us. My circle claims to pine for freedom, yet we condemn any action against what it is that we truly feel is at the root of our national foundation. I think that I can say without a doubt that all of us here at ATS understand that crippling our government and it's structure may be fuel for nations, groups, and organizations to see a week inlet for the opportunity to inflict changes we are not comfortable with ,but we can all see the benefit of the laws, so we are currently feeling ascribed to. Whether or not we see them as just.

To say that a group that feels otherwise seems to be overwhelming should be seen as good for our nation and its growth. It makes you think of what it is that you are doing, gaining, and possibly losing. After watching the video, and hearing JFK, my opinion is that you have many opportunities for firming your stance. You can believe that the way things are happens to be the way things should be; you can feel that things used to be better and need to be reflected upon; you can take the stance that actions and behaviors by all of us are getting a little loose and need to be regulated because of our social changes: or you can take the position that all of these are correct together. As a matter of course, the citizens of Great Britain felt that the Americans were getting away with too much by breaching taxation and doctrine set forth by the commanding land. Who are the outsiders to decide the fate of a burgeoning populous?

We see this happening again. Unfortunately, we hire representatives for seats in the house that we never shake hands with. Have you ever avoided a booth that offers a free map or coupons in order to not hear a politicians stance? What is five minutes worth to you with regard to understanding that representatives stance? How can you complain about not being represented if you participate in only the least cumbersome way?

As I see it, Anonymous is trying to get us constituents to survive the rhetoric and think for ourselves. Who you feel does the best job is irrelevant here. Just be a part of the system. Just as the farmers, builders, shippers, and magistrates did in the past, you as an individual need to be active. Without the voice of the people, the people will always be under-heard.

Our government is supposed to be a representation of the people. With 50,000 constituents, you'll never be heard. Maybe we need more representation with a lower income base. If you can't connect with the people, the people can't connect with the law.

Aren't we all striving for the same goal: Freedom and Liberty for All?

Please flame on as necessary, and realize this: I take a long time to respond due to my daily duties as a father, husband, and worker.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


god... you know what makes me sick!!! When people accuse others of terrorism for non-violent civil reform that can potentially be the most valuable checks and balances system we have had at this point in human history.

Humanity has been suppressed by governments around the work trying to tighten their iron fist of control and illusion throughout the entirety of history, and anonymous is the force of change against such tyranny.

Originally posted by blackandblue




As I see it, Anonymous is trying to get us constituents to survive the rhetoric and think for ourselves.

Aren't we all striving for the same goal: Freedom and Liberty for All?

Hahah,

Such a wordy and distracting post to convey a simple message which can be seen throughout this thread in other wordy and distracting posts.

I think i see a pattern.

Anyway, yes, i too am striving for freedom, peace, and liberty etc. and all that good stuff.

But the only thing anonymous is doing is messing it up for everyone else. They arent making much of a dent on anything.

Plus they gained fame by supporting wikileaks, a well known propaganda tool...

Originally posted by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

anonymous is the force of change against such tyranny.

No they arent... What the hell are they gonna do? DDoS people all day? Hahahaha.

False flag.

reply to post by BanMePlz


destabilize the driving force behind much of this tyranny.... their source of their funding....their control of information across the internet. The internet is merely a tool of this age for free communication, and by promoting the truth for what it is throughout media and technology people will start to wake up and stand up for their cause and rights!

reply to post by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx



Thats a far cry from home.

Anonymous has done NOTHING to stifle anyone it has attacked.

The only thing anonymous is good for is generating hype.

False flag if ive ever seen one.

Originally posted by BanMePlz

Originally posted by blackandblue




As I see it, Anonymous is trying to get us constituents to survive the rhetoric and think for ourselves.

Aren't we all striving for the same goal: Freedom and Liberty for All?

Hahah,

Such a wordy and distracting post to convey a simple message which can be seen throughout this thread in other wordy and distracting posts.

I think i see a pattern.

Anyway, yes, i too am striving for freedom, peace, and liberty etc. and all that good stuff.

But the only thing anonymous is doing is messing it up for everyone else. They arent making much of a dent on anything.

Plus they gained fame by supporting wikileaks, a well known propaganda tool...

Thanks for replying,
Can you please let me know what the pattern is? I'd like to be a part of the structure that makes it better for all of us, and you seem to have it, but you will not share. Yes, I use wordy responses. That is how I do things; give it what you got, let the corrections be few or necessary. With regard to the Wikileaks opposition, there is not much to argue there. They published statements that could be true or not. Who can argue with that? I know that as a viewer, I can be easily misguided by the posts provided within the internet to make an assessment. Wouldn't you? I'm just not sure about the disdain for WikiLeaks, just on the basis of thinking they are against America. Don't we all want the articles that you cited?

If you can provide me with an objective reason for why the government is wrong, or why the group Anonymous is wrong, please do so. Otherwise, I think we are all right, but we have a great boundary that needs to be bridged.

reply to post by blackandblue


For the sake of simplicity I will reconcile, give you the benefit of the doubt and say that perhaps we do have a common dream of peace.

That being said, my opinion on anonymous has not changed.

Anon is provoking law enforcement to enact more laws, not less.

This is the point. Think of it like this.. Those bastards are going to implement more laws ANYWAY. At least with this, they are waking people up, and pushing the elite to do things so the people can get fired up. They'll remember anonymous, and HOPEFULLY take to the streets and try to change something. Things are already bad, they aren't going to get better either.

I'm still on the fence with anonymous, but I can see the plan they are throwing out there. In do time, we may or may not see if there is a hidden agenda or not.

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Ive been begging for the rbs and halifax to be done to also the goverments court and fines record lol please anon make the world ANON for us all. If they did this the whole world would join.

Originally posted by BanMePlz
reply to post by blackandblue

 

For the sake of simplicity I will reconcile, give you the benefit of the doubt and say that perhaps we do have a common dream of peace.

That being said, my opinion on anonymous has not changed.

Cool. I tried to PM you, but I could not for some technical reason. Not to create a battle, because I feel that battles are more often won with assets and allies at the ready: what am I missing with the Anonymous position?

I really just have to sigh at some postings here, I see so many people post reply after reply with comments like "Anon is an e-terrorist organization bent on deterring internet freedom and force Obama to use his Internet Kill switch". How is Anon bent on deterring internet freedom seems very clear to me that they are trying to open your eyes and give you something to lean against so you can have the courage to stand on your own, but you are so scared of loosing your internet that is makes you a slave and a coward. The GOV keeps a threat over your head that they will continue to do what ever they want, you better not have a problem with it because we allow you to post on facebook and look at porn so you better just sit there with your McDonalds and porn and stfu because that makes you free and if you don't like it we will take away your internet. Well I tell you what I am not a slave and not scared and if they took away more of what I enjoy and more of my freedoms the more I will revolt. and when the time comes and it will sooner or later that the USA will have another civil war between those who want freedom and those who want to be taken care of. I will be the one wearing the mask and throwing rocks at the man in the riot gear, while those of you will hide or take a noose to your own neck because you are upset you lost your porn.

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Originally posted by Terrorist
...Sometimes a cake is just a cake.

The cake is a lie sir! But don't tell Hitler.

Originally posted by BanMePlz
reply to post by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx

 

Thats a far cry from home.

Anonymous has done NOTHING to stifle anyone it has attacked.

The only thing anonymous is good for is generating hype.

False flag if ive ever seen one.

HBgary - reputation ruined.

How is this a false flag? Please tell.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


So you might say e-gents provocateurs?

I was wondering, if a group is anonymous, how is one to know if they have your best intentions at heart?

According to some, Gandhi is a terrorist because he caused British army to massacre hundreds of peaceful civilians. Also, Dalai Lama is a terrorist because he caused Chinese to indefinitely detain and torture Buddhist monks. I can go on, but there's no reason as this faulty logic should be obvious by now.

Disclaimer: I don't really support this "Anonymous" group but I support the idea outlined in the video. Besides, there is no Anonymous - we're all it (obviously).

Originally posted by mr-lizard

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Anon is an e-terrorist organization bent on deterring internet freedom and force Obama to use his Internet Kill switch

I hate these people

Er... No.

The very reason anonymous exist is because of the restrictive, draconian and patronising laws which are suddenly sweeping the internet.

Anonymous are fighting AGAINST this.

Until you can prove what you say, I will disagree.

They are fighting a fire by throwing gasoline into it.

You're sooooo bright mr-lizard (and co.), I am truly impressed!

Ko3

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Sence

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Anon is an e-terrorist organization bent on deterring internet freedom and force Obama to use his Internet Kill switch

I hate these people

This just needs to be repeated. Anon will give the administration ALL the ammo it needs to enforce draconian rule on the internet.

and when this Happens They and the Rest of the people in the Internet Living World will Shut Down Their Government

Especially !!!!!! Mass internet Corporations like Amazon.com & BIG BOX Company's !! and other Business that is Internet based account Orders Only ... University's and Factory's and The Hospital all use the Internet for Quick responses for Solving problems that is big problems anywhere from Article's to Audio or Video!
as One Success of a Major Emergency Operation that has Happened and was shown step by step across the Ocean ! Video Internet Surgery

April 8th, 2009
The Future of Medicine: Surgery Over The Internet
www.thenewwellness.com...

ScienceDaily (Aug. 17, 2005)
Via Internet, Australian-Based Researchers Perform Real-Time Cell Surgery In California
www.sciencedaily.com...

Doctors perform surgery over the web

by Robert Jaques

09 Aug 2005

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what was scary Famed Scifi writer and Future Visionary Author C Clarke predicted this !!! in 1964

The Proof

at Around 5.56 mark of this Video or just go to 6.22 mark where he talks about the same thing of the above post of The Future of Medicine: Surgery Over The Internet

BBC Horizon (1964) with Arthur C. Clarke (Part 1 of 2)



you think Company's will let this happen as The 235 year old American Constitution Stands TPTB will Try to Restrict the Use of the Internet it Happening Now on YouTube & PTP Sites & FTP Sites in the last 5 years

I say its Impossible to have a kill switch a Global Communication interaction Event

I guess The World will be back in the day of Modems and Bulletin Board Systems (BBS) like in the Year 1984

ohh That Reminds me that Number 1984

Nineteen Eighty-Four
en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by kid_of_3NKi

Originally posted by mr-lizard

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Anon is an e-terrorist organization bent on deterring internet freedom and force Obama to use his Internet Kill switch

I hate these people

Er... No.

The very reason anonymous exist is because of the restrictive, draconian and patronising laws which are suddenly sweeping the internet.

Anonymous are fighting AGAINST this.

Until you can prove what you say, I will disagree.

They are fighting a fire by throwing gasoline into it.

You're sooooo bright mr-lizard (and co.), I am truly impressed!

Ko3

No.

The feds, music companies, corporations and such are the ones throwing the petrol on the flames.

You're just misguided enough to believe the media.

I bet you think Ghandi was a terrorist?