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Originally posted by Stewie
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
The problem is...you are a Jew.
Whoa! What was that?
How about I label you a Liberal, instead of a Jew? Would you feel better being called a Liberal? How about a Liberal Jew?
Or, a Conservative Jew?
Let's say you are a Catholic Priest, and you have been asked to check in on some middle school boys that are camping out? Would you feel uncomfortable based upon...perceptions?
Don't wear your Muslim on your shirt sleeve, but you can't hide it in Israel.
I once knew a Wiccan family, but sometimes it is really not healthy being Wiccan. I hope they find a new home.
Was it the Catharians that were completely wiped out? I know it wasn't the Jews.
Woe is me. My daddy died when I was five, but I had no label. I was made fun of because I had no label. I was poorer than the Blacks, so they didn't pick on me. I was Superman because I was white, and my Black friend was Batman because he appeared black. I recall that we had fun....
Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
I understand you don't like the term "false" Jew but I am not saying they are true Torah Jews, that is their label for themselves. I personally am not in favor of any religions so I hold all the major religions in low esteem, but this doesn't mean I hate their adherents.
As for Hamas not pursuing the peaceful way, I believe the rocket attacks are false flags to justify Israel invasion. Look at how pathetic they are (more deaths from a single forest fire than 10 years of rocket attacks) yet they keep happen. This is kind of like Bin Laden releasing a video tape just when the US needs to justify a police state (it's all Bin Laden's fault for not pursuing the peaceful way, this is basically how I take your statement, Hamas is also not following the peaceful way because they are being orchestrated by the global elite to cause wars).
I'll tell you one thing for anyone who cares to listen. The anti-Jewish, Neo-nazi movement was created to smear the patriot movement, I know this for a fact, even though the patriot movement is not anti-semitic no matter how much people say they are. However, the patriot movement is against the elite that run Israel as they are against the elite that run the USA or Yemen.
It's not a Jewish thing. Just listening to your story, who could possibly hate someone who had to wear cardboard shoes? I live near poor Jews, and I live near rich Jews, neither of them really strike me as people I need to hate. So the entire anti-semitic thing ( I know you said you don't use this but others do) use this to demonize anyone, like Jared Loughner, just shave a guy's head and boom, instant neo-nazi for the public to hate. So they basically try to make it seem like so and so hates Jews even though Jews are poor and wear cardboard shoes. Sure, some of these people may really hate Jews, and history shows that most of those neo-nazi groups were run by the FBI.
It's crazy but I'm just stating the facts. I'd love for you to set the record straight if you could.edit on 16-6-2011 by filosophia because: (no reason given)
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.” -
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. -Matthew21
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. -Revelation3
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. -Roman2
For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh -Philippians3
But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” -Matthew15
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me -John10
[in Christ] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female -Galatian3
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. -1John2
As translated, it is referring to one of the tribes of Israel (Yisrael) named after one of the 12 sons of Jacob. The word Jews, the plural of the word Jew, is incorrectly translated most often from the word Hebrew Yahudi, descendants of the tribe named after Yahudah. It must be noted, that the letter 'J' was not in general use until after the 16th century as is now used in many English Bibles to form the incorrect Biblical word 'Jew.' In some English Bibles we have received from the translators, the word Juda. This is also an error in translation because the word derives from the Greek Iudaios, which in the English would be Judaios. Judaios was none other then a Greek pagan diety (see W.H. Roscher's lexicon of mythology).
Within Jewish Circles, there are two other official ways one can become a Jew. One can be born from a mother who calls herself a Jew, or one can 'convert' to become a Jew. (A convert is called a Ger which literally means stranger). Being born a Jew is pretty simple. If one's mother is Jewish (of the Jew-ism religion) then he/she is considered a Jew, if one's mother is not of the Jew-ism religion, then neither is the child officially a Jew. (It doesn't matter what race the father is).
They want the convert but the convert must be 100% committed to being a Jew. Discouraging conversion helps to filter out those 'lacking the proper degree' of commitment. Jew-ism is strongly Anti-Christian.
The term 'Jew', has come to be used synonymous with the term 'Israel, or Israelite', however, this is error. Scriptural "Yisraelites," the collective descendants of the 12 tribes of Jacob/Israel (the Northern Kingdom) were never called Jews. Modern Jews are not of the tribe of Yahudah, and are not a part of the Yisraelites of the Scriptures. They take the name Jew because the name is in the name of their religion i.e. Jew-ism. Jews have deceived may Christians into thinking that Jew-ism is a continuance of the Scriptural worship system of Jacob/Yisrael, but it is not.
Originally posted by Mykey420
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
I'll concede that is partially correct. But, not fully correct.
Germany welcomed Jews before WW1 and eventually Jews sold them out, for land in palestine. I think you only see the history that coincides with your eternal victim mentality. The Jewish people have a long history of infiltration and eventual betrayal of host states.edit on 16-6-2011 by Mykey420 because: (no reason given)
If the Jews are happy with the insane criminals controlling Israel that just so happen to call themselves JEWS, then you deserve every criticism and hostility that is directed toward you. You should be railing against THEM that are giving honest Jews a bad name, but I don't see that. Do you?
But, it is not the run of the mill Catholic that is screwing up the world, nor is it the Pope.
It is, in fact, Central Bankers that happen to be whom? What?
Originally posted by DerekJR321
I dislike Israel. I dislike the people in charge of Israel. I dislike anyone who defends Israel's actions. I dislike the Israelis or Jews who play the victim card to get their way.
But you know what? That's my human right. I don't HAVE to like something. I don't hate Jews. I don't hate Muslims or Christians or any other religion. I think they all have an equal share of morons and an equal share of great minds.
Frankly I don't even see the need to wear your religion on your sleeve. I don't refer to myself as "Episcopal". I'm just me. There are Jews who in present times, and in the past who have done evil things to there fellow man. In the same respect so have all religions. No one religion, or person for that matter, is better than the next.
I think the world would be a much better place if people would just keep religion to themselves.