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Originally posted by solid007
reply to post by confreak
did you say crocodile tears?
edit on 17-6-2011 by solid007 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by reeferman
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
I would rather flee to Israel than be rounded up in Nazi fashion and sent to a camp (wouldn’t you in similar circumstances).
translated ...
"I would rather round up Palestinian people in Nazi Fashion and send them to camps so I can escape the same fate..(wouldn't you? please agree)
I never met any nasty or unfriendly families and could never understand the typical stereotype of ‘stingy’ Jews???
but then..
I have in my life (over the last 10 years)in business met two New York Jews who did typify the Jewish stereotype who would sell their own mothers for a profit and would not bat an eyelid in ripping you off and had greed written all over them.
Another thing I hate on ATS is the often referred to argument that Ashkenasi Jews are not ‘real’ Jews but fake Khazar Jews. Now I have read arguments on both sides as to whether the Ashkenasi Jews were Khazars who converted or not and to be honest I don’t personally care, except when the term ‘fake’ or ‘not real’ Jews is termed because it is basically a stupid, pathetic argument that has double standards, why?
It matters to the Talmud.
Sanhedrin 59a To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.
then we have the... "Gee you got it all wrong" statement..
..lend money because they were the ones needing the wealth and when they had to pay it back, then resorted to stealing what was left and kicking the Jews out of their countries????
Usury extracts a toll far greater than the principle by design.
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156 If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth.
Finally..
Love is the way forward not hate, we are all ‘souls’ born into humanity whatever race, creed or religion, love and understanding is the way forward for us all! *
* Except Palestinian's. Remember the sacred teachings...
Zohar, Vayshlah 177b That the Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all the remaining ones are contemptible and hateful. That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general. A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which should not be perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become dishonoured.
As far as i know I am the only Jewish person posting on this thread and yet it is the people who respond who play the 'victim' card not me! In no way am I a victim, I have stated facts and the only stupid response I get is oh here's the victim mentality again, what utter BS!
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by JR MacBeth
i dunno. i think she's justified in being concerned. any time you see people using broad bush strokes to define one another, it should concern you. for example, not all men are violent even though some are. not all white people belong to the kkk, although some do, and not all jews are bankers, although some are. not all black people eat chitlins and not all catholic priests are pedophiles. this goes on and on and on.
Originally posted by 123AZ
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by JR MacBeth
i dunno. i think she's justified in being concerned. any time you see people using broad bush strokes to define one another, it should concern you. for example, not all men are violent even though some are. not all white people belong to the kkk, although some do, and not all jews are bankers, although some are. not all black people eat chitlins and not all catholic priests are pedophiles. this goes on and on and on.
Personally, i don't disagree, however, the OP has attempted to smear as "Jew-haters" any and all ATS members who post truths and facts regarding criminal ar/and inhumane activities that are backed up with links/sources about individuals or groups if those truths and facts happen to identify individuals or groups that are Jewish.Calling people "Jew-haters", "holocaust deniers", "Nazi", "anti semitic," etc whenever truths and facts are highlighted regarding criminal or/and inhumane activities connected with any Jewish persons is a well known Anti-Defamation League (ADL) smear tactic. The ADL is an organization that has and has had many criminal members specialising in all sorts of frauds and deceptions during its history.
No I have not tried to defend against any wrongdoings by Jewish people, if they do wrong they should be punished...
However, what I do dispute is that a whole people should be punished because the Rothschilds are Jewish and people hate the Rothschilds. I have tried to point out the true reasons Jews were kicked out of many countries in Europe rather than listen to snide remarks that don't offer any reasons or proof.
When a local church was asked to repay a debt in Leeds, the local clergy started attacking the Jews and accused them of kidnapping innocent blonde haired, blue eyed christian children and eating their flesh as a Jewish custom, which anyone who was not brainwashed would realise is rubbish, but it worked and many Jews were slaughtered and the church was relieved of having to repay its debt! Money lenders are great when you need their help desperately but they are so evil when they want to be repayed!
Originally posted by Rustami
did Jesus hate the Jews? there is obviously more to study on that translated word than first meets the eye
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.” -
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. -Matthew21
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. -Revelation3
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. -Roman2
For WE ARE the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more -Philippians3
But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” -Matthew15
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me -John10
called by a new name -Isaiah 62,65,Revelation3
And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. -Acts11
[in Christ] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female -Galatian3
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. -1John2
www.biblegateway.com...
interesting article on the subject-
As translated, it is referring to one of the tribes of Israel (Yisrael) named after one of the 12 sons of Jacob. The word Jews, the plural of the word Jew, is incorrectly translated most often from the word Hebrew Yahudi, descendants of the tribe named after Yahudah. It must be noted, that the letter 'J' was not in general use until after the 16th century as is now used in many English Bibles to form the incorrect Biblical word 'Jew.' In some English Bibles we have received from the translators, the word Juda. This is also an error in translation because the word derives from the Greek Iudaios, which in the English would be Judaios. Judaios was none other then a Greek pagan diety (see W.H. Roscher's lexicon of mythology).
Within Jewish Circles, there are two other official ways one can become a Jew. One can be born from a mother who calls herself a Jew, or one can 'convert' to become a Jew. (A convert is called a Ger which literally means stranger). Being born a Jew is pretty simple. If one's mother is Jewish (of the Jew-ism religion) then he/she is considered a Jew, if one's mother is not of the Jew-ism religion, then neither is the child officially a Jew. (It doesn't matter what race the father is).
They want the convert but the convert must be 100% committed to being a Jew. Discouraging conversion helps to filter out those 'lacking the proper degree' of commitment. Jew-ism is strongly Anti-Christian.
The term 'Jew', has come to be used synonymous with the term 'Israel, or Israelite', however, this is error. Scriptural "Yisraelites," the collective descendants of the 12 tribes of Jacob/Israel (the Northern Kingdom) were never called Jews. Modern Jews are not of the tribe of Yahudah, and are not a part of the Yisraelites of the Scriptures. They take the name Jew because the name is in the name of their religion i.e. Jew-ism. Jews have deceived may Christians into thinking that Jew-ism is a continuance of the Scriptural worship system of Jacob/Yisrael, but it is not.
assemblyoftrueisrael.com...
Present-day Modern Jew-ism, was formally formed into it's basic cultic worship form about 1,000 years ago, (according to Jewish history), when - Rabbenu Gershon a Khazar/Jew of Mainz, Germany, published a ban on bigamy for the Jews. This marks the recorded beginning of the Ashkenazi Jewish Sect, and Franco-German halachic* creativity. The word 'Ashkenazi' is not Hebrew for the word Germany, although the name has become 'associated' with Germany because many Ashkenazi Jews organized in Eastern Europe.
Modern Jew-ism as a religion began about 1000 CE, and is traced to Rabbenu Gershon of Mainz, Germany, considered the 'Father' of the Ashkenazi Jews. Ashkenazi Jews constitute approximately 90% of all the worlds approximately fourteen million Jews. Modern Jew-ism is not the Scriptural worship system of the Hebrew Yahudi (of the tribe of Yahudah).
CHRISTIANS – THE MOST PERSECUTED PEOPLE GROUP ON EARTH
By Anthony Browne, Europe correspondent of the Times.
Rising nationalism and fundamentalism around the world have meant that Christianity is going back to its roots as the religion of the persecuted. There are now more than 300 million Christians who are either threatened with violence or legally discriminated against simply because of their faith — more than any other religion. Christians are no longer, as far as I am aware, thrown to the lions. But from China, North Korea and Malaysia, through India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka to Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, they are subjected to legalised discrimination, violence, imprisonment, relocation and forced conversion. Even in supposedly Christian Europe, Christianity has become the most mocked religion, its followers treated with public suspicion and derision.
scottthong.wordpress.com...
Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.
said that the non-Jews should be made aware that loyal Jews declined the offers contained in the Balfour Declaration of 1917.
www.jewsagainstzionism.com...
Present-day Jews are a pot-pourri of every race of man, and they do not have any geneaological or racial derivation from the ancient peoples of the Holy Land.
Since “Jews” were a mixed race from the beginning, the term “Semites” applied to them, admittedly, is silly. Thus, “Anti-Semitism,” actually means “Anti-Pharisaism.”
www.come-and-hear.com...
Over time, the Bible translators arbitrarily and incorrectly shortened the word “Judean” to “Jew” and incorrectly attributed ethnicity to the word, something it NEVER has in the Bible. And thus, the supposedly “Jewish” race was concocted out of thin air. But there is no such thing as a “Jewish” race. “Jewishness” is a culture and/or a religion – the culture and the religion of the Babylonian Talmud, the “holiest” book of Judaism, a book that is the antithesis of the Bible.www.goodnewsaboutgod.com...
The first King James version of the Bible unfortunately started to mistranslate the words Canaanite, Edomite and Hittite as “Iewe.” In subsequent versions they started to use the modern term “Jew.”
In light of this, and all the other scientific evidence, confirmed and verified, it should be enough to convince any rational person that the modern Jews are standing on very shaky ground in their racial claims to be descendants of Biblical Israel. If you don't believe me just read The Jewish Encyclopedia, remembering of course that there is nothing anti- Semitic about it. After all, the Hittites were not Semites at all. hittites.htm
www.biblebelievers.org.au...