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Originally posted by haarvik
Our constitution states that it is our duty to replace a government that ceases to serve it's people. Has ours not gone past that point? Maybe you are a drone of TPTB sent here to spread the "love thy neighbor" mentality knowing rebellion is not far off the horizon?
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to post by Nspekta
America (or other countries) policing the world doesn't have to be a bad thing. sadly, all this "policing" action is for money and power, not moral reasons.
consider africa, a very sad state of affairs has existed there for a long time. poverty, disease, and corrupt dictators abound. why don't we go and help? because we stand to gain very little.
Originally posted by haarvik
Unfortunately you did not correctly read my post. I never said we should overthrow the government. What I said was those who violated the constitution or abused their office needed to go.
Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by wcitizen
Unfortunately the will of a few in the US destroys the image the rest of us portray and the values we hold dear. It's no wonder Americans are kidnapped overseas or murdered. Everyone thinks the American people is reflected in our leaders since we elect them. Too bad they don't know the truth that those people do what they want and we are too afraid to hold them accountable!
Originally posted by haarvik
Unfortunately you did not correctly read my post. I never said we should overthrow the government. What I said was those who violated the constitution or abused their office needed to go. If the people stand up and force these corrupt people out of office, the rest will take notice and realize we are not going to stand for it any longer. The problem is that our elected officials know that once they are in office, no matter what they do, we morons keep re-electing them so they do what they want. We have sat back and watched laws that we thought were stupid get passed because everyone thought that a normal person would see the absurdity in it and not pass it. Doesn't work that way. The people need to show solidarity and demand more accountability from our elected officials. Recent history shows they do not listen. The do however listen to force. It tends to get their attention.
Originally posted by lokdog
The link you provided is nothing more than a opinion piece. No where in the article did it state the US was going to war with Sudan. The authors premise that America is to blame for the civil war there I think is a bunch of malarky. You have generations of history showing constant descrimination of blacks by the arabs, thats the root cause of the war.
In my opinion the United States will not be invading Sudan. I'm very much looking toward coming back to this thread in a few months and seeing who was right.
Originally posted by wcitizen
The myth that the US helps anyone has been well and truly busted, the US is persuing a murderous agenda of world control - for the benefit of the NWO and their Illuminati puppeteers.....
it helps their depopulation agenda.
Originally posted by haarvik
how many demonstrations have taken place in DC with thousands of people attending and yet nothing changes.
I view violence as a last resort,
Originally posted by haarvik
If we had 1M citizens walk into DC, armed to the teeth, do you seriously think the US government would fire upon them?
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by wcitizen
The myth that the US helps anyone has been well and truly busted, the US is persuing a murderous agenda of world control - for the benefit of the NWO and their Illuminati puppeteers.....
Just a side thought.
the US is not alone here...
China, Russia, etc...many different factions theoretically want to control the globe and install their version of order.
So, if that is the case...well, it comes down to which side you want winning overall. the western plans may not be peaceful and wonderful, but if you compare it to say, a chinese world government agenda, well, I think I would prefer the walmart and mcdonalds version verses the no internet, run over people whom protest version
just speculation...neither sound good to me, and until we the people of the world form our own NWO by our command, then really its just a "rooting for" game.
Gotta say, you really should cut down on this talk.
there is no sign of depopulation...opposite actually, we are in a perpetual population explosion.
Not that there is no secret plans for such an event, but until there is some evidence of actual numerical depopulation going on, its just sort of crazy speculation
Like standing in a desert screaming the NWO is trying to flood the planet...
best to wait for a few drops of rain first, no?
T
people die all the time, wars happen all the time, but the population is booming..and the more we advance warfare, the less civilian casualties there are...aka, bigger population
Compare WW2 to now...back then, we carpet bombed entire cities with dumb bombs, leveling entire cities to get some slight tactical advantage...now we are sending bombs through windows of buildings and leaving next door fine. Yes, there are still tons of civ casualties, however, if the name of the game was depop, we would just be dropping daisy cutters on metro areas at high noon...
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to post by Nspekta
America (or other countries) policing the world doesn't have to be a bad thing. sadly, all this "policing" action is for money and power, not moral reasons.
consider africa, a very sad state of affairs has existed there for a long time. poverty, disease, and corrupt dictators abound. why don't we go and help? because we stand to gain very little.