here is what you seem to keep missing.
Because a man is a mason, doesn't make all of his actions masonic in nature. I am trying to find a definitive link here to use as proof that the
Statue is either masonic or not. You seem to think you have won, but you don't understand your own evidence. And you being so thick headed is really
a large stumbling block in the conversation.
You wanted evidence you got it, it shows contribution on all levels, design, bulding of the statue, and fouding
Lets list the facts that are undisputed:
1. the men who thought of designed and built the statue were masons.
2. The platform that was built by the US to hold the statue has a masonic cornerstone that was put there by masons in a masonic ceremony. They put a
plaque there to commemorate the cornerstone and the builders.
3. The same men who came up with the idea (the builder and designer) (who were masons as was already mentioned) helped form the Franco-American
Union. The formation of said union was to solicit funds to complete the project.
Knowing that we all agree on these three points, lets look at the things that make it hard to say it's purely masonic.
We all agree, masons did everything.
It was proposed as a gift from France. The reason for this was to keep a strong relationship with the US as France was going through a turbulent time
and had a less than stable government at the time.
Yes it came from grand oriend de france as a gift, and not really but there was another reason, it was solidarity.
The fundraisers tried to get funds form all kinds of sources. It was difficult to raise all the funds. There is
nothing pointing to the funding being from masons and masonic lodges, although I am sure some money did come from men who happened to be masons. (this
is where your logic usually flies off the deep end)
The franco american union was built by the masons, I do not know what you mean.
the proposed statue, the reason for it, the funding for it, and the meaning behind it, seem to not be masonic. meaning that:
It holds the meaning of enlightment, how can it not be
It's about enlightment, about liberty, freedom of the american and french revolution, how could it not be masonic ?
1. she is not holding a square and compass or anything remotely masonic.
2. there is nothing on the statue itself that is remotely masonic. (forget all about the plaque and the cornerstone since that is something that has
happened to thousands of structures all over the US since George Washington first did it at the Capital Building)
3. The funding didn't come from a masonic source. the majority of the finding came from the people of France for the statue, and the people of the US
for the platform. (note that "the people" includes men, women, and perhaps children who may or may not have anything to do with masonry)
It did, from the french american union built by masons.
4.The government of France was not solely masonic. I am not sure who was in power or who was a mason, but I am using the idea that of the leaders
were in fact all masons, it would be a bigger conspiracy that any to date)
The majority was, the rest were from other similar oranisations.
Were not even debating the statue anymore, it is clear.
Now why the statue of liberty was built , what it meant and what connection freemasonry had at that time.
The statue of liberty was built in honor to show liberty, escape from royal persecution at that time, from the ruling class. These organisations in
the backround were mostly masonic plus others. The french revolution held the same meaning as the american revolution. It was the members of this
organisations who wanted freedom from opresion of the ruling class, to escape it. It's why the term "FREE" MASON these organisations such as
freemasonry wanted a change, the people in the background, free from the curch, from the roiality of that time.
It would of been very dangerous to talk of occult things, symbols at that time, you would be hung, decapitated, or tortured. So these secret
sociaties wanted a change. It's why at the base of french revolution you got french masonry. The same thing can be said about the us revolution, it
had the same goal independence from the ruling class, the statue of liberty holds that meaning, it is the work of freemasons that were very proud of
the sclupture, if they herd what you speak of, you would probaly get moched or even worst. But they can't they are long gone.
The statue of liberty holds this idea of enlightment and freedom from the royal class/inquisition.
It is in solidarity to the french revolution and american revolution, maybe you did not know it but the french have a statue of liberty identical
also, but smaller in size.
Same for the templars, same story it's why masons asociate with them, do you think people are that stupid ?
The statue of liberty is a very masonic symbol, not just a masonic symbol but very very very, please remember that.
It does not matter anyway, today the royaity and masonry work hand in hand, even if they hated each other guts
along the past timeline, it's all A ok today.
You got the freedom you wanted to practice the occult that at that time was strictly forbiten plus other things. They would hang you for sure. There
for the revolutions of the secret organisations.
It was the same goal as the illuminati to make a revolution take control and change it but they failed, where illuminati failed masonry and others
suceded, it's why it's highly probable that mebers of illuminati went on to become free masons, they had the same agenda.
Now stop spilling lies around here, people are sick of lies.
edit on 17-6-2011 by pepsi78 because: (no reason given)