ANONYMOUS: "The Plan" is now live. Phase 1: Initiated. War against the System

reply to post by mb2591


I've never heard her do that? If she did, she is wrong. I agree.

Originally posted by Perfectenemy

Originally posted by Forevever

Originally posted by Perfectenemy
Sorry but sheeples are idiots,morons,fools and much worse. They just follow the masses like....zombies yes that´s the word i was looking for. You can´t even start a conversation with them because everything is blue and shiny and all. Sometimes i just want to slap them senseless to wake them up but i don´t. Why? I don´t have a clue. Maybe because i don´t want to force them to use their own brain.

You should be sorry.
You clearly lack empathy.

Text about world events or conspiracy theories, or even conspiracies that are real and not theory, doesn't mean they are "idiots, morons, fools, or much worse."

The people you refer to as sheeple, are often just caught up in the day to day grind of "work, sleep, consume" - a pattern designed to keep us tired, confused, and too busy to notice whats going on.

Why do they do it? because thats what everyone else does - thats what we were taught to do growing up - its been pounded into our heads almost from birth. Its a pattern of abuse that we learn from our parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents. We were never presented with other options.

Only we can break that pattern. Only we can present another option.

They have the capability of learning - do you have the capability of teaching?

That´s not the problem. They just don´t want to hear about that´s all. Most people think we are nutjobs and need to put in jail thanks to the freakin media and their brainwashing. If you would know me better you wouldn´t make bold claims like i lack sympathy because i´m always the first to help if someones is in trouble. You can´t argue with sheeples. Sure i can teach someone but is the person willing to listen what i have to say?

Hey if it makes you feel better your right.. but only half right as Forever is also half right.

This is a thread I started on their website....

The only corrupt system is you. There's nothing wrong with this world + How to raise consciousness to start winning

I am aware that Anonymous message is about looking in the mirror and changing things in yourself first.

Just wanted to elaborate on that - do not force anything on anyone, be an EXAMPLE (if you're not an example, you're a warning) and let others see and follow you.
Forceful revolution's a lie. The only revolution is inside us.

Raise in collective consciousness will take care of publicity, there's no need to protest, force any ideas on anyone, or even spread the message etc. Studies have shown even when you challenge someone's belief and present them with facts about that belief, people will stick to their original state of thinking about that idea even stronger. Partially because of ego and partly because being right doesn't always make you right. The feeling has to be right, and if you lead by example, people will follow. That's why protesters achieve exactly nothing and anti-anything will only create more of it. Be PRO-, not against. Don't like GMO? Be pro organic. Don't like war, be pro peace. Don't like silence? Talk out loud. Etc.

Raise your consciousness (how alive you are) to start winning with your personal challenges and at game of life.

4mind4life.com...

Vegetarianism (Raw Vegan is best - why? cuz then your body won't have to work as hard to produce it's own enzymes and energy can go to other departments), Yoga, refraining from wasting your sexual energy, Fasting, raising emotional vibration, meditating, sun gazing, exercising, loving everyone and the world, and being a MAN - all raise consciousness. I know it sounds a out there but if feel like you are depleted of energy or feel depressed/angry/limited, you've got to get toxins and emotional negativity out of your body and get prana/sunlight in. As a result of practicing some or all of these things, the energy level that can be achieved is amazing. TRUST me, I went through the whole thing myself, this is the TRUTH...

Raw living fruits, vegetables and activated nuts and seeds have actual vibration to them while cooked food and dead meat have 0. Your pancreas has to work hard to make enzymes to digest that # and your life force goes into digesting rather than elsewhere). There's evidence that humans started getting inflammation (arthritis, atherosclerosis) , excess protein type diseases (like Parkinsons and other nervous system diseases) after they started cooking their food. No other animal on this planet cooks their food. It's dead energy and brings your consciousness down. Same with masturbation, you will end up wasting energy. Buddha, Ghandi, Jesus all practiced sexual continence.

This is a paper on the subject of sexual continence...

sacred-sex.org...

Drugs like '___', '___' and marijuana only raise your consciousness temporarily but it can give you glimpses on how we should feel EVERY DAY.

If you do not believe in prana/energy or in higher force, or that we are just pieces of the puzzle of a whole organism that is experiencing itself subjectively then you haven't awoken yet. If you do know about this but choose to drink, do drugs, eat meat and masturbate then you are bringing the consciousness and collective frequency of this world DOWN and you live accordingly. If you do understand this and doing the right thing, you are nearing enlightenment.

By raising your consciousness you will be raising collective consciousness as well as collective ideas, thoughts, etc. also.

Understand that this system we live in now is a result of HURT folks that are still in lower vibrational frequency. They like to rule, so they rule cuz we are helpless in their eyes. They do not give a # about your kindness, righteousness, values, etc. They are just representation of what YOU ARE perfectly capable of and probably are doing. The more folks are in higher emotional/spiritual frequency the more the scales will tip from lower to higher vibrations. Once you are ENLIGHTENED or close to it, you will understand that there's NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS WORLD. That's just how Karma works, we get what we deserve. No right or wrong, just consequences.

Vibrational frequency. Just look at our senses, we can only hear a limited vibrations (20hz - 20,000hz), see limited vibrations (wiki the word "color", it has info on frequencies), basically everything we see, touch, smell, hear, taste is nothing but limited interpretation of our brain aligned with the collective perception. Same with chakras, our energy centers, they have certain frequencies.

They tried to dull our senses but it has backfired. To those who know, know.

Youtube "liferegenerator" and "Lou Corona" to see true masters.

REAL men are supposed to be in touch with BEAUTY, they COMMUNICATE easily and clearly, they follow their HEART, they are KIND and INTELLIGENT. Stop hiding at your monitor and start raising your CONSCIOUSNESS, and for GOD's sake stop TRYING TO MAKE A CHANGE.

MAGICAL things will start happening to you if you persist, as if by LUCK ;-)

some other glimpses of truth I've noticed in my 25 y.o. life : outter image (face and body) reflects inner world (you are what you see)
Raw Vegans are BEAUTIFUL and they GLOW
COINCIDENCES ARE REALLY NOT

Add yours...

reply to post by mb2591


If they don´t want to listen everything we do is futile. We can´t force them can we? The sheeples are the masses. Without them there will be no change at all and the governments know that too.

What is the matter with you all?

An OP that sells a message of uniting against TPTB and you have all been drawn, ONCE AGAIN, into a divided partisan debate.

"Sheeple" "Zombies" "Palin" "Idiots" "Trolls"

These people you are referring to are your fellow members, neighbors, family, and your fellow man (or woman to be PC).

How did you take the video to mean that we should jump each other and do TPTB's dirty work for them?

Drop the Left/Right Dem/Rep paradigm, it's old and antiquated and has NO purpose in today's social structure.

The extreme on either side is Totalitarian, that's the battle that's going on, the left is heading towards their extreme - Socialism and the right is heading towards their extreme - Fascism.

Neither one of those are acceptable, we need to maintain balance and not allow TPTB to appeal to the base instinct of conflict so that we wage their war on each other to decide which form of subjugation is acceptable.

If you find yourself dealing with someone you perceive to be one of those labels, all you can do is explain your point and attempt to educate them, but MUST remain open to the possibility that it is you yourself that is getting educated.

Do not bait or feed the trolls, they will actually contemplate what is said if they are not engaged in an attempt to defend their position, allow everyone to EVOLVE.

Great video and great message, together we are Anonymous!

Well, these websites are down:

www.nsa.gov...

www.nro.gov...

www.cia.gov...


Guess LOIC are firing their lasers.

Originally posted by mac420
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

I was medically discharged. I gave them my health and well being for nothing. I was not weak and I did not quit. Besides this was 5 years ago when I was still blissfully unaware.

Who then could blame you for being angry. Not me. My best wishes.

I'm disabled myself, but not the same thing and not in the military. I learned that I can still do anything I want though. Started a company with less than $200 and never looked back. I'm contracted years in advance due to what I do with my mouth, not my back.

My take on things is love our country and hate the individuals who do wrong. Where we run astray is in hating the country which is us.

I noticed an earlier post with the Sheeple rant. How can we or anyone criticize people who work two jobs, raise children and care for them if they cannot be fully informed about what is happening around them and to them. We have two insane political parties working hard to fool them. Lately their loyalty is being bought with cold hard cash. Union workers no longer have any voice in their own unions in fact. It is a nutty world.

reply to post by Komodo


There is a point where violent means are justified. There is a line when crossed that would drive me that way. The problem is that too many are too willing to take that route first. I share the anger.

It is however still not yet near the turmoil of the sixties and seventies. Not yet, but it is heading that way. Still, just a few standing before Congress did what violent nuts like the Weather Underground could never do; they changed things. In the end it took a man that willingly served to come back after a lengthy stay in an enemy prison to get their attention. Now he is hated by the Progressives who pretend to want what he so willingly gave much for. Why, because they disagree with his politics? Horrible on it's face when we can't vote against somebody without resorting to hate.

On the world stage though, it is worse. Two entire generations have become spoiled by entitlements and no longer seem to have the skills to build something new. They want their candy and they want it now. In that regard we are in more trouble this time.

and so it begins
Anon opens the way to the NWO.
This will be the solution offered
in 1 yr. Mark my post, so in a year
you can come back and read it again
from a clearer perspective.

This is not what you think it is.
In the real world it's called
bait and switch.

When foreign soldiers occupy
your streets don't say boon
didn't warn ya.

Do you think it is a coincidence
that this operation started at the
same time of the Bildeberg Conference
in Switzerland ???

NATO and the UN will be your
new overlords. Enjoy ur RFID chips.

reply to post by Hijaqd


Believe me i had some nice conversations with sheeples and it´s like talking to a brick wall. If we can´t convince them there is no way to set anything in motion that can´t be stopped. Most people just don´t care about what happens around them and that´s the bitter truth.

The only thing I am worried about is with ANONYMOUS attacking, they are going to clamp down on the internet.

Sites like these are toast.



thenextweb.com...

reply to post by boondock-saint


I was wondering when you would show up Boon!!

After reading everybodies responses to this... I do still agree the message in the video is important, But the website linked inside of it, most likely is not for the good of the awake people who want freedom from the oppression...

I do hope your wrong about bait and switch... but anything is possible these days

Originally posted by morder1
reply to post by boondock-saint

 

I was wondering when you would show up Boon!!

After reading everybodies responses to this... I do still agree the message in the video is important, But the website linked inside of it, most likely is not for the good of the awake people who want freedom from the oppression...
I do hope your wrong about bait and switch... but anything is possible these days

sorry it took me so long to show up,
have been a lil pre-occupied today.

My gut is warning me about this.
I am just passing on the warning to my
online family here at ATS. It is your choice
to listen or not. Best wishes.

reply to post by gentledissident

Thank you so much! I appreciate the sentiment and my response to you will be the same as ....

My response to Perfectenemy.....

Teaching is often looked upon as a profession, never as a responsibility. Yes, its absolutely true, that you cannot reach everyone. But it will be an invaluable skill if you learn how to empathize. If you can effectively put yourself into the shoes of your student, find situations that you've been in and relate to how they feel, you may eventually find a better way to reach them.

Or maybe you won't... but name calling will never work, I promise.

However, if you can reach one person, and they can reach one person, and so on and so on....
Knowledge is contagious, spread it around!!!! Pretend its gossip!!!

I dont think the word "sheeple" has to be a derogatory comment like "idiot" is.
(Sheeple, Tea Party, Rednecks... None of these terms should be synonymous with idiot.)
A sheeple can just be someone that we've yet to find a way to reach.
But then when we do reach them (or someone we reached reaches them), are they not still sheeple?
just following a new idea? hmmm...

I am Forevever, and I am a sheeple
I just change my shepherd on a regular basis lately... nearly everytime I learn something new....

I dont have a better idea and the concept of Anonymous speaks to me more than the idea of a comet smashing into the planet. (though I'm all for that as backup!)

I know I don't have all the answers.
I know sheeple I can't reach... but I also know they are not stupid people
I will keep trying. That is my responsibility.

I also know that I am stupid in some subjects that they know all about.
Thats where I try to find empathy.

Make sense? I can only hope so
if not, I apologize, I just had a grand greasy cheeseburger and its messing with my endorphins

Another group comeing out telling us how screwed we have been,how screwed we are and how screwed we are going to be if we don't support them and there way of dealing with it,the only problem is they never tell you what they plan to do or what they want you to do except be there stooges on the internet and in the streets.By the time you have done this TPTB who want to know who is agenst them now have a lot more people on there "first people to remove" list and know nothing about ANONYMOUS because we the people have done all there dirty work while (like someone said) they hide behind there servers.

If these people are so powerfull then they need to start destorying the bad guys in there way,it will soon move into the streets and those that want to fight,will,and the majority will file into Fema camps and ask for there handouts and say they want no part in this.

Talk is cheep and untell someone does something substantial that makes a big difference no one will do anything.Hell people won't even push hard for "term limits"to brake the chain of these corrupt lifers.This is easy and legal but where is the movement to iinstall politicians that will support term limits??????????

The hacker group Lulz is taking credit for downing the CIA website today ... It seems cyber revolution is amongst us !

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Are you sh***ing me all the way to the moon

"whatistheplan.forumnmotion.com"?????

Hardy, har, har!!!

Way to go there and let em know what you plan on doing.

Dumb s***ts.

No wait...let's all go there and let em know what we are going to do, but confuse them by not really telling them what we are going to do...but telling them something totally different. Yeah, let's confuse them.

But wait...if they are smart enough to control all the money then maybe they are also smart enough to figure out who is feeding them false "take down the system plans" and are stupid enough to post there plans to take down the system on a web site.

But hey...at least "They" will have a trophy to justify their line item on the defense budget when they foil your supposed "terror plot." At least "They" can keep their job then.

Originally posted by Tephra

Internet is neither an anonymous space, nor a space of no-right! We reserve ourselves the possibility of informing your access provider and/or the legal authorities of any malevolent behavior. An IP address of each poster is recorded in order to help us to make you respect these conditions.

Errrr Yeah..... No thanks "anonymous"

Strongly support the message, don't support the hypocritical website.

edit on 15-6-2011 by Tephra because: (no reason given)

thats because its another form of control.

its pretty obvious to me that if these guys claim war on the system that tptb world wide would make them public enemy 1 and hunt them down till they are dead. So what do they do make a website for like minded people and record their IP's???

you might as well ring the local police station and tell them to come arrest you. lol this is a scam. they control everything nothing gets out without their approval. if this site was real it would be shut down in days.

There is absolutely no chance I am going to visit that forum. Thanks for the video though OP, I will remain anonymous for the mo and see how this turns out...