The psychology of Homosexuality

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Hoopinator
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It goes both ways, girlfriend. Seriously. Our gov't is extraordinarily corrupt.

NO - - power corrupts. America has had a free ride because of its location - - which makes it difficult to invade.

I think it also has a lot to do with the fact that we could clean the chronometers of MOST of the countries on this planet.

Originally posted by Hoopinator
I think it also has a lot to do with the fact that we could clean the chronometers of MOST of the countries on this planet.

Is that American Ego I'm hearing?

Progression happens. Nothing stays the same. Its time to unite as mature humans.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Incidently, since latin words that are similar to todays understanding of meaning.

I then put forward that "conservatives" are actually slavers

con-serv-ative

Con: multiple meanings, relevant meanings as followed
To swindle, to analyse, and to actively steer a vessle

You do realize that con means with... A con game is actually a confidence game, with trust... Etc..

Go learn your Latin

Originally posted by MJZoo

Originally posted by dontreally

If youre born gay - its not to remain gay - but to overcome the challenge. If due to his current circumstances i feel hes not in a position to respond ammenably to my help, then i have no choice but to tolerate this.

Yeah and what's up with all these people being born with down syndrome and not being able to overcome THAT challenge? Geez people, lets get it together.
Oh and black people. THEY MAKE SKIN WHITENERS. Dont be afraid to be white!!!

It's funny that what you have to offer him you actually consider "help" With friends like you, who needs enemies.

I'm sorry if this one line but this is the greatest post I've read in my life I laughed for 10 minutes straight

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I'm done with this. Go back to your MSN and make your apologies for our country. When the BS starts and you're cowering in a corner, you can thank people like me for defending your non-deserving behind. Having pride in your country isn't ego. It's patriotism. That's become such a bad word as of late. Read the Constitution.

Oh, and by the way...I'm all about progression. God knows we've learned a lot from stupid mistakes. At least some of us have. I simply refuse to be bred out of existence by you liberals and all Anti-Americans. Being American is not something to be ashamed of.

Why is homosexuality such a hot topic on this board? I'm betting 90% of ATS are closeted homosexuals.

Regardless of the topic at hand I'd like to say two things:

1: Please look up the words 'Know' and 'Believe' and then use appropriately.

2. There is a big difference between believing something and presuming something to be true. Believing something obviously has no impact on anything outside of the individual. Presuming something to be true is arrogantly overstepping this mark!

Originally posted by indigo_fleshlight
Why is homosexuality such a hot topic on this board? I'm betting 90% of ATS are closeted homosexuals.

Doubt it.

But many seem to be conservative right wing Christians.

Originally posted by Hoopinator
reply to post by Annee

 

I'm done with this. Go back to your MSN and make your apologies for our country.

Your problem - not mine.

Yeeeeeah, no.

You fail to realize that the only thing making gays uncomfortable or uneasy about their feelings is people like you. Gays who make it past the bigotry are perfectly happy with their feelings. Their sexual attraction is perfectly natural, for them. People like you need to stop trying to change other people.

reply to post by Thoriumisbest


Homosexuals do not see their sexual orientation as a "hurdle" to overcome. They cannot simply turn it off like a light switch. I know a few people that are gay, and you would never know that these people are gay unless they told you. The problem with society is that the people that condemn and ridicule homosexuals, are the same people waiting in line at a roadside truck stop for gay sex...nothing but hippocrates

Originally posted by Dragonfly79
reply to post by kazanoom

 

"Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli."

That leads me to conclude homophobic men aren't homosexuals, they simply lack control over their own mind. Which I believe someone who would explore their sexuality fully (in their minds) acquires. They see genitals getting rubbed and have no inhibition since they've avoided the subject their entire life. Some only have one inhibition which is wearing clothes, people wearing clothes, there's no sex going on, no one is procreating there's no arousal. And when confronted with the subject (sex) they react in a typical manly way and get aroused because that is what everyone expects of healthy men, to become aroused when exposed to sex, that's how they have conditioned themselves. But becoming exposed by a sexual act which they would never choose to watch their brain just interprets it and reacts as if it were watching porn, since it never considered anything other which might prevent the reaction.

That is why I believe any heterosexual male should define sex clearly for themselves (as an act of procreation) and watch gay porn once in their life and tell the brain it's not really sex but just 2 naked people of the same gender rubbing themselves. Besides that the brain should be told many more reasons against homosexuality so to leave no room for any doubt. That way they'll be less uncomfortable being around gays which would lead to less conflict, then everybody can be happy.

edit on 11/6/2011 by Dragonfly79 because: (no reason given)

Did you even read the abstract? It's states clearly that ONLY the homophobic men were aroused by the homosexual porn whereas both groups were aroused by the lesbian and hetero porn. By your logic, homophobic men would get aroused by dogs humping in the front yard.

Homosexuals have from the earliest age, or time when theyve discovered that their sexual impulses were wrong, or unnatural, that they are unable to feel an attraction to the other sex. In other words, there is a deep emotional complex attached to their sexual feelings. The inability to arouse the desire to them is a depressing and painful feeling; and because this is so, it prevents them from ever cultivating such feelings.

While there were many things I could talk about OP, I decided to address this. What I quoted above strikes at the very deep core flaw of the assumptions you present.

First it is unenlightened segments of society with the belief that Homosexuality is "wrong" or "unnatural" that are the real issue. Nature knows no "right" or "wrong", only Humans place values upon sexuality, so make no mistake nature does not call Homosexuals "wrong" or "Unnatural" only Humans with narrow perceptions use those terms. So it is the anti-homosexual segments of society that are the core of the "deep emotional complex", not some fault of the Homosexuals themselves. Any depression and pain is again not inherently found in the Homosexual, it is caused by the societal expectations placed upon them as children that they will someday "meet the right person of the opposite sex, marry and begin to procreating.

So for a moment let me introduce you to a society where Homosexuality is accepted and treated in the same way as heterosexuality...

Parents know and accept that there is a small chance that their the children may be born Homosexual. Said parents don't care. A Homosexual child will still be able to marry, adopt children and even have children through serrogates, this just seen as normal in this society. In fact this society is grateful for the existence of these same sex pairings that wish to rear children as there are more children born into this society then can be adopted (much like our own).

So our homosexual child goes to school, he or she knows they are gay, society does not use the term "Gay" or "Faggot" as a slur. As puberty arrives the parents explain the birds and the bees as they are of course still relevant but they also explain the nature of homosexuality to the gay child. Armed with knowledge the Homosexual young adult has no stigmas or hang ups (other then those found throughout the rest of said society". Perhaps they ask a same sex friend to date, if said friend says "Sorry Joe, I'm het" there are no hard feelings, they laugh and continue to be friends and it just so happens that Frank knows that Larry at school has a crush on Joe and proceeds to help Frank meet Larry. Again not a big deal, its what young people do.

So in the course of things, Joe goes to his prom etc. etc. and while serving in the Marines meets Marcus, a fellow Marine, they fall in love and get married. Both families are as thrilled as can be as they have wanted this for their boys since birth. Several years into the marriage they ask a female friend if she would be the surrogate for their child, Kathy is thrilled and of course accepts...

This just goes on and on. No hatred, only the acceptance that is afforded every other productive member of their society.


This could be our world if we wanted it to be. A world where more children are adopted, where more happiness is a matter of course, where many stereotypes and judgements are discarded.

Do you want it?

I do.

reply to post by Cyberboiraves


I admire your courage to live your life for who you truly are. It takes tremendous courage and resilience to live your truth in a world filled with so many who feel threatened by it. You do not need to be anything other than who you truly are. If others cannot accept, it is their problem.

Originally posted by dontreally
Anyways. I have no problem with my cousin. I love him and will love him regardless of his decision towards his homosexual impulses. That being said, i do not - for religious reasons - approve of his homosexuality. I dont think its right that hes in a relationship with a man, and i especially disapprove of anal sex/oral sex etc.

I'm the exact same way. I have gay friends who I care for very much but a few happen to be gay and I treat them just as I do all my other friends, even though for religious reason I don't approve. Though, you try explaining that to people you get "You're a hypocrite!", etc.

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tried it; didn't work.

Originally posted by indigo_fleshlight
Why is homosexuality such a hot topic on this board? I'm betting 90% of ATS are closeted homosexuals.

HAHHAHAAA # me to tears thats funny.

Originally posted by CrashUnderride

Originally posted by dontreally
Anyways. I have no problem with my cousin. I love him and will love him regardless of his decision towards his homosexual impulses. That being said, i do not - for religious reasons - approve of his homosexuality. I dont think its right that hes in a relationship with a man, and i especially disapprove of anal sex/oral sex etc.

I'm the exact same way. I have gay friends who I care for very much but a few happen to be gay and I treat them just as I do all my other friends, even though for religious reason I don't approve. Though, you try explaining that to people you get "You're a hypocrite!", etc.

Yep its weird how everyone has to be strictly on one side or the other for some reason. I have been friends with devote catholics who have known im gay and even told me that they dont agree.....I have no issues with it. They didn't call me a dirty *** (you know the word), they didnt grimace their face, it was just a matter of fact and that was it. It wasnt a topic of conversation everyday, I mentioned my BF just like he mentioned his wife in a typical "what did you do for the weekend" convo.

We respected eachother for face value, both realizing our personal lives do not reflect how we are as people or how others should be treated. Very good person, kind of sad ive lost touch with them.

reply to post by WeAreAWAKE


While I am not gay, I have several cherished friends and relatives who are. From what I have learned from them, being gay is no more a choice than being heterosexual is. They didn't wake up one morning saying to themselves "I choose to be gay". They are who they are. I did not wake up one morning saying to myself "I choose to be heterosexual". It is simply who I am.

I believe the choice for homosexuals is not about whether they are gay or not, it is about how they want to live their lives: "Do I live my truth or do I live within society's imposed values of 'right and wrong'?" Coming out of the closet can, and is, a very scary thing for many.

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I do not believe that all gays are effeminate, nor does it state that anywhere in my post. In this particular case, with my nephew, he was. Please let's not put words in my mouth. Thank you.