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reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:04 AM by redrose123
reply to post by Aisling



You can say no however it takes a lot of back bone. Apparently something even your leaders don't have. The only thing this world runs on is money. If they cant't fly in commercial planes it going to cost a lot of money. People with true backbone would have beat them to the puch and refused any commercial airline in the state. Only private planes at their airports everybody else out. But like I said that would cost a lot of money. I read that in Texas some of your main highways are private owned by foreign countries. Apparently your leaders didn't know how to say no to those money grabbers either.



reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:07 AM by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN



Dont give in Texas. Screw them.

If they actually do declare a no fly zone over Texas, it might just be the spark that ignites the fire under the butt of the American people. Especially if the allies start bombing like they did the second they declared a no fly zone over Libya.


reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:11 AM by redrose123
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander



It is a thought however the Texas politicians already backed down. It was either going to cost them too much money or cost some of them their careers. Texas legislature is no different than the rest of the 50 states. All mouth for their voters big pockets for the money from the powers that be.


reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:19 AM by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by redrose123



The difference is that Texans are different. You guys should all show up with shotguns on the capital steps and put a little pressure on your politicians. I know quite a few Texans, and I am only half kidding.

Of course our (your) politicians are bought and paid for little corporate wussies. Thats a given in every state of the nation. But what are WE going to do about it? The only reason they get away with it is because we dont pressure them on the local level. We really need to start, and if there is any state in this nation where the people have the balls to do it, its Texas.

Im impressed too with Arizona for standing up for itself, too. We all need to begin to stand up and say no. But someone has to start, and then the rest of us need to publicly support them.


reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:22 AM by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Maxmars



I agree Maxmars. They would never have pulled a no fly zone, not only would it have hurt businesses, and they would never have allowed their lap dogs to do that, but I think our politicians KNOW that the people have just about had enough of their bullsnip, and a stunt like that could set off a powder keg.

I think the Texans should have forced their politicians to call the big dogs bluff.


reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:40 AM by buni11687
Not sure if this has been said yet, but this bill was UNANIMOUSLY passed in the House earlier this month.

One more thing - Was the bill just only shut down in the Senate? Does this mean it could go back to the House and everything start all over again?

Edit - Link that says the House vote was unanimous.
newsfeed.time.com...

In another bout of tough press for TSA, the Texas House of Representatives unanimously passed a bill on Friday that prohibits "intrusive touching" when people are seeking access to public buildings and forms of transportation.


Another side issue - Senate unanimously voted to strike down the trans texas corridor a few days ago.

[url]http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/texas-legislature/headlines/20110521-senate-votes-to-drive-final-stake-through-trans-texas-corridor.ece[/ url]

The Senate unanimously passed a bill that strikes from state law any language, reference and authority once connected to the massive highway envisioned to slice a swath through Texas.


The highway corridor to parallel Interstate 35 had been a signature issue for Perry, but it was doomed after angry citizens rebelled against the private contracts, the massive proposed taking of private land and what was seen as arrogance by state transportation officials.
edit on 25-5-2011 by buni11687 because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:43 AM by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by redrose123


Texas Congress says his bill can be resubmitted, but it has to be done TODAY.

Texans, you know what to do.



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reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:48 AM by buni11687
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh





Texas Congress says his bill can be resubmitted, but it has to be done TODAY


Woah, I just saw that after finishing typing my last post. Does this mean resubmit into the Senate or House?


reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:53 AM by littled16
reply to post by tvtexan


Don't count the people of Texas down and out! We may have lost the battle for now, but the war is still on! People in Texas are particularly sensitive to having our rights infringed on, and we don't take it lying down! Texans are a unique people in that we don't sit back and just take a bunch of bull. We "blitz" our politicians and DEMAND that they do their job- which is representing "we the people". Please don't judge us all by "W", something changed in him when he got to D.C. that nobody saw coming!


reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 10:57 AM by g146541
Listen please,
First off I personally see nothing wrong with what the tsa is doing other than federal employees are protecting corporate assets.
Citizens surrender their rights before getting on the planes; it is not their plane that they are riding on, so I'm ok with that.
But it is the individual citizens’ fault for surrendering their rights and freedom for someone else’s or corporate security.
Many do not suffer the pat down, they have their own aircraft.
It is not your safety the tsa fears for, it is the loss of a plane or the insurance monies that are paid out, the bad press that comes with crashes, Etc.
That said the federal government is giving free security to the corporations.
Make the airlines pay for all of the tsa employees and see how quickly budgets get cut.
Remember all of you can say but this is a democratic republic or we have democracy.
Bull, we have an oligarchy.
If you see it any other way than that you are simply delusional and daft.
The power could be put back in our hands if we wished it so.
However this will not happen in a voting booth, you see as long as we have career politicians we will have this problem.
This bill was not killed by federal threat; it was killed by a career politician that just did not want to fall on his own sword.
We need to unify and force our politicians to see things our way via mass protest.
But these politicians do not fear us.
Why you ask?
We are not organized or smart enough.
Sure the tea party had a good go and got some good press time along the way then got co-opted. Where is it now?
First things first, education is paramount.
Remember when they used to say stay in school?
That was so you'd get your basic skills down.
If you cannot organize a sentence how are you supposed to organize a worthy defense?
First we need to become educated.
Second we need to make serious term limits and not the crap they have talked about before.
One term, no pension no insurance; remember it is a “public service” position.
You do it because you love your city, state or country and want to help, not to get rich
It is as simple as that.
With term limits big corp. would have to pay off everyone and many would be bad investments as nobody would be worried about re-election.
This would kill the idea of an oligarchy, as they could not get a firm grasp on our public servants.
I do believe Texas will be the epicenter of the flashpoint as there are more freethinking individuals down there and as in the past Texas was it’s own country.
This holds a lot of weight in people’s minds.
Organization is key, educate, demonstrate, obliterate.
Just my take on rights and how to keep them.


reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 11:09 AM by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by buni11687


Senate, I believe, but will need 2/3 to pass



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reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 11:18 AM by rogerstigers
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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Senate, I believe, but will need 2/3 to pass



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Senate, yes.. the 2/3 is to ensure it is enacted immediately instead of in September, I believe.
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