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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by PixelDuster
Still at the end of the day most of them run the same official stories up the flag pole and salute, with some ready made label to attach to people who don't.
It really is a form of mass programming that starts with the government then extends to the media, and then on to our own cliques within society.
We need better education and a truly independent non-biased media, how we are going to get it?
I think that these are really big problems that you are discussing about. but you are not talking about any useful way to solve these problems. It won't work when you say " Americans need to rethink the left/right divide, the word games, the labels and the stereo types, and start dealing with the real issues, and we need to do it before it’s too late. "
Originally posted by jackflap
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
It seems to me that these groups try to coerce and recruit more members than the opposing group or groups. They seem to be seeking a unified consensus on their particular processes and patterns. To actually disseminate their own modality far and wide while shamelessly or unknowingly imposing on every ones individual sovereignty.
We find that each group has its own ambiance or familiarized traits that we can readily associate with them. We also find that there is a commonality among them as well. They all seem to have a plan at the ready to bring about a brighter future for everyone and they all seem to have solutions to our perceived problems that we are told we are plagued with. All of them blame these current problems as being the fault of the other groups.
The systems that make up their principals and rules are enforced throughout their campaigns. The decisive use of these disciplines are calculative and their ambition and determination is clearly distinguishable between the groups. We find suddenly that the seemingly limited groups are not afforded the privilege of having the same resources at their disposal as the more seemingly influential groups.
Even though the struggling group or groups may hold the very keys we are consciously or unconsciously wishing for and know deep down would be advantageous for all, we are forced into submission by a might makes right mentality that has been ingrained and enforced in us throughout our whole lives. This is undeniable and should be mulled over carefully by those who are now able to explore such avenues of thought.
So in the end we see that our votes or decisions are not really our own. They are controlled very precisely and carefully to give us the illusion of freedom to choose a group and cast our vote for. Which is meaningless drivel compared to the drive of the mighty in their conquest. Your vote counts!
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I have never before agreed with someone's choice not to vote
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I think that not voting is also a form of voting.
Don't you agree?
Also as an FYI, your dog always stares at me I swear!
in the end, we are all confused and side-tracked and are never sure WHO to believe.
Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
It is not easily identifiable.
At least not on the surface.
However, "the problem", as I see it, is a lack of self-leadership.
People cannot and will not lead themselves.
They would rather not step up into the podium due to a lack of courage.
They would rather not step up into the podium due to a lack of morals.
They would rather not step up into the podium due to a lack of ethics.
So few, too few in fact, could stand toe-to-toe with the corruption, and not be bought.
I am the only person I can speak of in this regard due to my own experiences.
"The problem" is people tend to want someone to follow instead of leading themselves and others.
It seems like far to often the easiest thing to do is to accept the partial answers and just agree with everyone else that wants to, is predisposed to, or sees a benefit in that this is what must have happened, this is the truth.
Bush gazed around the diamond-studded $800-a-plate crowd and commented on the wealth on display. "This is an impressive crowd - the haves and the have-mores," quipped the GOP standard-bearer. "Some people call you the elites; I call you my base."