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Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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this has rlly gotten out of hand out...actually..its beyond that...it is beyond ridiculous...birthers = racists..
plain AND simple...no way around it!!
here we have the most powerful nation in the world..you would at least like to believe that if they were really trying to pull a fast one on the American people they would hire only the best graphics designers to help..
i design as a side job-...if i was trying to fool anyone, i would look through the document thoroughly for any discrepancies before releasing anything...who ever believes this is fake will not grasp reality any time soon..so its best we ignore them.. man the nerve of these folks




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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It is faked

Either way, millions of idiots elected this loser, including my wife.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by sabbathcrazy

Uhh we dont trust him. Their is no reason to trust him. They have held it from us for such a long time and now when the controversy dies down they release it? Look at the typing it does not look like a type writer. Match the letters they all look exactly alike. If it was on a type writer their would be some differences in the letters such as ink spread.


Agreed! We can't trust a Negro with a Muslim sounding name who is a Socialist/Communist.

God forbid we let our guard down and one of them damned Negros become presi....OMG!



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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reply to post by Justice2012
 


Try this..
news.yahoo.com...



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by sickofitall2012
Found this on yahoo
The green form
WHY IS IT MADE TO LOOK AS IF IT WAS COPIED THIS WAY OUT OF A BOOK WHEN WE KNOW THE ORIGINAL WAS ON WHITE FORM.
WHY.
news.yahoo.com...


Hawaii official Doc thats why.

DUH!?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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Once it separates text, images etc... and saves them into groups wouldn't the text be saved as text? So it could be searchable? Why when this document is opened is it showing separate layers all as an image not a text layer? If it is saved as separate images instead of text how would it be searchable? Wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose of scanning it that way?



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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I lean towards BHO politically, but I also believe that the truth is more important and a higher end in and of itself than any political considerations.

That being said, the more I look at this document, the greater the sinking feeling I am getting. This document does look manipulated. The thing I noticed right off the bat, and if others have pointed this out somewhere else on this gigantic thread my apologies, is that all of the text, which has indeed been layered from the background, has a white drop shadow behind it, as if to enhance its readability. I don't believe this is a result of aliasing. This looks like something I would intentionally do to make the text pop a little. It is a very common technique.

I might be able to overlook this if it was on just the parts of this document that I assume were generic and pre-printed, but it is on the field text as well, where BHO's unique info was inserted. What gives?

If this is forged, why the hell didn't they flatten and rasterize the document prior to generating the PDF?
edit on 27-4-2011 by Elbereth because: typo



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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This is a riot! LOL!

This looks like the same old "Certificate of Live Birth" that was produced a few years ago except it is printed on a "long" piece of paper! I guess that makes it the official "long" form. LOL!

It is NOT a birth certificate. It is a certificate of live birth.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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So why was there an unofficial release?

I don't get why Obama would be given anything but an official document



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by mudbeed

Pfft you are a complete moron.

This isn't story time, this is fact checking.

Kind of hard to fact check when you make up some fantasy story no one can prove.


And you would be an idiot.. I was just entertaining the thought, very possible it went down that way.


The fact is we will never see the original Birth Certificate .
A poorly scanned document is not an original, and proves nothing dufus...
edit on 27-4-2011 by imitator because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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exactly this text is not searchable nor selectable. It's not due to OCR. People are making excuses to make themselves feel better. these are all individually scanned pieces put together



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by WildWorld
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Once it separates text, images etc... and saves them into groups wouldn't the text be saved as text? So it could be searchable? Why when this document is opened is it showing separate layers all as an image not a text layer? If it is saved as separate images instead of text how would it be searchable? Wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose of scanning it that way?


Separates the text from the pictures, pictures being anything not recognized as text.

Some databases use the OCR for filing. My work doesn't work this way. The document is then named the relevant title and that is how we search for it.

In my case it is old customer orders so yes the lines are technically separate from the text.

Do I preserve them this way? No.

Edit:

I want to add. OCR is an example of what it may be used. As a previous user pointed out, this doc uses Bitmap which isn't OCR. It's really hard to know at what level (hospital/gov) the images became bitmap, but either way it isn't relevant.

I am just trying to get across that this procedure isn't weird at all and people with experience here generally agree.

So you know I generally fall on the Left, but I promise I would never trump facts for substance.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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"Birthers = Racists"?

I am not a racist and I question where Obama was born.

Stop hiding behind the race card and use your head for once.



By the way, I voted for Obama and he turned out to be just another scumball politician.
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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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It's not that birthers refuse to believe in documents of proof. The problem is that all these documents are frauds plain and simple. I think any birther will shut up the minute that there is proof thats not dodgey.This new birth certificate is crap and his SSN# number was never issued by Social security. it was issued from N. Carolina in 77" when Obama was supposed to be in Hawaii. it's out of sequence!.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Now why would you post that crap. No one here has said any such thing. Stop baiting.
I want the truth, could care less about color.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by Digital_Reality
Sadly the only thing that will convince the birthers will be going back in time and sitting in the hospital waiting room. Its just embarrassing and retarded at this point.


True. There's one other thing that would do it though, and that's a real, legitimate birth certificate, which this one is obviously not, even to the digital forensic layman.

The big question I have, is why he hasn't been able to produce (even it's back-dated and falsified), a real, legitimate document. I mean, when the government needs cash, they print real money. Why can't they print a real birth certificate?

Another issue I take, and I take issue with this even if it were 100% authentic. Why did he spend so much money to hide this from us, the people, who are his EMPLOYERS (and certainly not the first employers to want a "background check"), and draw this thing out for years, and then produce what is requested damn close to immediately as soon as someone with equal amounts of money and resources starts questioning it?

Joe Blow asks Obama for something, and get's the freakin' finger.
Donald trump asks, and barely finishes asking before Obama starts coughing it up.

I don't much like the idea that my President measures my worth by my wealth, especially in such a blatant manner.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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I have to say, this thread has completely gone off the deep end into epic-stupid.

Put on your big people hats, folks. Do you really think that with all the experts in employ by the government, with the vast technical resources at their disposal, in a day and age when we can create images on film that make it virtually impossible to differentiate hard-set from digital and that a 40' tall truck has turned into a walking, talking robot -------

that they'd publish, and continue to post something so easily picked apart were it not EXACTLY as they got it from the hospital?

Listen, if they wanted to fake it, they'd have done it water-tight. You know? That one simple fact alone is enough to solidify this as legit.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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One more Question for you guys to Debunk.

How does he Have access to State Databases to Receive a Digital Copy, is this a Normal thing in Hawaii?

Good Debunking Me,
Mudbeed and atlguy



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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Insult much? rude jerk.
So your telling me that their offical paper is all made to look like it was copied from a book?
No way.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by AbleEndangered
One more Question for you guys to Debunk.

How does he Have access to State Databases to Receive a Digital Copy, is this a Normal thing in Hawaii?

Good Debunking Me,
Mudbeed and atlguy


Exactly what I have been saying.

Thank-you



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