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Hawaiian Senator said Obama not releasing long-form BC to hide identity or citizenship of his father

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posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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Well OP-
*points to nose*
you called it

S&F for you my friend




posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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and it looks like this Hawaiian senator was right. The long form states that his father was born in Kenya, so unless he obtained citizenship in some way, this means that Obama is not natural born and thus not eligible to be president


And once again, the MSM framed the debate in such a way that they had to have prior knowledge of this. All this time they made the issue whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii, which even if he was born in Kenya to two U.S. citizens, one of which having U.S. residence, he would still be natural born. But, if he was only born to one U.S. citizen he is not natural born.

Thanks MSM once again for destroying this country.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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I see on CNN that Obama is now releasing his long form Birth Certificate. He said he has watched with "bemusement" for the last two years. What that hell kind of leader is that to watch a controversy he could have ended to years ago because he got delight in the discussion? He also said he was eligible to be president. I still don't think he is qualified.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Nite_wing
I see on CNN that Obama is now releasing his long form Birth Certificate. He said he has watched with "bemusement" for the last two years. What that hell kind of leader is that to watch a controversy he could have ended to years ago because he got delight in the discussion?


Maybe because he has real issues to worry about?
Just sayin.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by derst1988
What was released was a Certificate of Live Birth. Not the real Birth Certificate


Not that birther lie again, Obama showed the only birth certificate Hawaii currently issues. It IS a birth certificate


Now listen here troll he just released the real birth certificate today. So how are you going around telling people that is the only one that they issue? I call them as I see them and you are a misleading LIAR!



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by marcsnothere

Originally posted by Nite_wing
I see on CNN that Obama is now releasing his long form Birth Certificate. He said he has watched with "bemusement" for the last two years. What that hell kind of leader is that to watch a controversy he could have ended to years ago because he got delight in the discussion?


Maybe because he has real issues to worry about?
Just sayin.


What? Keeping the American people informed is the VERY-most important thing the president has too do. Unless you like the dictatorship...



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by daddio

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by CynicalWabbit
 


You won't find almost any answers to those questions on his Certificate of Live Birth. It will have the father listed but thats about it. He's had a record of US citizenship since his birth, but no record of losing it. His rights to dual Commonwealth citizenship ended when Kenya gained independence from the UK and Kenya did not allow dual citizens.


Although this may be true, you MUST BE born a "naturally born" human on AMERICAN SOIL, that is within the 50 union states borders. OR be born in the "U.S." or one of it's possesions or territories, WHICH DO NOT INCLUDE the 50 union states, BEFORE the RATIFICATION of this Constitution. Read the document.


The minor is the only person this applies to. His Hawaiian birth has just been reiterated and confirmed.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by blangger

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by derst1988
What was released was a Certificate of Live Birth. Not the real Birth Certificate


Not that birther lie again, Obama showed the only birth certificate Hawaii currently issues. It IS a birth certificate


Now listen here troll he just released the real birth certificate today. So how are you going around telling people that is the only one that they issue? I call them as I see them and you are a misleading LIAR!


ACTUALLY- It is rule, for Hawaii, to only release the standard Birth Cert. It is there common practice and policy. The White House requested that Hawaii Waiver this Policy for obvious reasons, and to release the Long Form.

So, before calling people lying Trolls, do a little research.
Copy of request



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by marcsnothere

Originally posted by mickdundee23
They are obviously hiding something. Why spend $millions to hide it. Just release and I and millions of others will eat crow.


There is a problem with your theory. Most wont succomb to defeat. No matter what is shown, it wont be enough.
It will be released.
It will be called a fake.
It will be called a lie.
Wait and watch.

hahaha, did I say that yesterday?? wink



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Homedawg
klinton did the same thing...he has never revealed who paid for a starving Oxofrd student to visit Moscow over the Chrsitmas Holidays in 1972,nor what he did there....(who the heck goes to Moscow in the winter)((more hidden travel records))20 or so years later he pops onto the political radar in time to unseat GB in a suspicious election(remember Perot?>>"I dont like klinton but I just cant vote for Bush" was often heard)


Yet another great reason to further dismiss theories posed by birthers. Please tell us what nefarious purpose Clinton had for going to Russia? Well, he was president of the United States and everything without even attempting to hand the country over to his Soviet overlords. Unless this post was written while Clinton was still in office, it makes no sense to even bother discussing. It does highlight what is wrong with most of the thinking around here though.



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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I know how you feel. Maybe I should start posting in the prophecies forum? LOL


Originally posted by Albastion
The reason why I say "it's just a sheet of paper" is even if he produced a completely legitimate birth certificate, it would be denounced as fake anyways. So why bother to do it now?



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by rnaa

Vicky, for your info, the 'footprint' on Smiths POSFKBC is a piece of clip art readily available in a popular clip art library.

Any American 'birth certificate' with a foot print on it is NOT a birth certificate and it is not legal for anything. It is a hospital issued souvenir, full stop. They make it look nice, and it might be acceptable to organizations that just want to check a person's age, like Scouts, or Little League, or even primary Schools. But it does not carry the official seal of the State, County, or CIty authorized to issue official birth certificates.

Some Post Offices in the US have notices describing passport requirements that say "If you have a Birth Certificate with your cute little feet prints on it, you have the wrong thing. You need an official government issued Birth Certificate".
edit on 27/4/2011 by rnaa because: (no reason given)

Oh I hadn't known that rnaa... Thanks for the information!
Surely that even further discredits the forgery?

Vicky



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by ChrisF231
This is AMAZING, a huge victory for The Donald ... not because it proved Obama was foreign born but rather because he forced Obama to act. Obama realized that this issue was hurting him and that even Dems and Independents were beginning to doubt his claims of being born in Hawaii and so he had no choice but to release the long from certificate.

I saw this live on BBC TV. You birthers don't realise that this is not a victory for you! In fact it made you look utter prats, as Obama said he was releasing ityet again so that he would not have the continual distraction from real and pressing issues...
Vicky



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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the Soviet Union folded before he got into office...doesnt mean he wasnt being groomed to do something...which is what the poster had asked about....whoelse is out there....



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by marcsnothere

Originally posted by Nite_wing
I see on CNN that Obama is now releasing his long form Birth Certificate. He said he has watched with "bemusement" for the last two years. What that hell kind of leader is that to watch a controversy he could have ended to years ago because he got delight in the discussion?


Maybe because he has real issues to worry about?
Just sayin.


Or perhaps he knew they would find some way to say it's forged? Just sayin...



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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Total BS..and this is why we have:Boycott The Treason State Of Hawaii:

Sounds like something that their member of the Socialist Party of America, Gov. Abercrombie would say.



posted on Apr, 30 2011 @ 08:20 AM
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and it looks like this Hawaiian senator was right. The long form states that his father was born in Kenya,


This was already well known, the long form has added nothing to this discussion.



so unless he obtained citizenship in some way, this means that Obama is not natural born


Nope.The long form is the source for the info on the short form: he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, USA. That makes him a Natural Born Citizen. Had he "obtained citizenship in some (other) way" he would not be a natural born citizen.



and thus not eligible to be president


He is eminently eligible.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 12:46 PM
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so like im supposed to boycott.....pineapple? coconuts? grass skirts? I cant even think of what to say to people that are trippin out over this BC thing. Deal. he's been in 3 years and you all couldn't find any skeletons. maybe there just aren't any? It's natural to distrust government and the president in particular but can we not make it personal? So, you guys get Obama booted out less than a year before elections, then what... Vote the Trump/Bieber ticket? Good plan. I'm sure when the founding fathers made the rule up that you had to be a natural born citizen that was just to keep anyone from coming in from another country and preying on the newborn nation. It was to stop for instance, the British from sending a representative, rigging the elections and getting their land back.
edit on 3-5-2011 by BlueLightRain because: wasn't finished.





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