Originally posted by Byteman
reply to post by syrinx high priest
The Founding Fathers identified themselves merely as US citizens, due to their British citizenship at birth.
They fully defined Natural Born, by not including themselves as Natural born.
Natural Born does not include someone with non-US loyalties at birth.
Obama's father was a British Subject, therefore Obama was a British subject at birth...even if only partly.
Even if Obama was 100% Natural born US citizen at birth, that was forfeited when he became a full Indonesian citizen.
He entered Pakistan at a time when no US citizen could do so, more proof he forfeited whatever form of US citizenship he formerly possessed.
At best, Obama is a naturalized citizen. Naturalized does not equal Natural and does not qualify you for presidency.edit on 25-4-2011 by Byteman because: (no reason given)
sorry, but this whole indonesian thing is subject to the same proofs the birthers are claiming for the BC. prove it. I mean prove it with out any documents, because they can be forged. prove it without any witness testimony, because we all know everyone has an agenda and is getting paid. prove it withourt any images, because we all know they are photoshopped. prove it without any links to news sources because we all know they are in on the conspiracy.
and the founding fathers were smart enough to use the consitution as a guide, and let congress fill out the details, which they did in the 14th ammendment which I already spelled out here defines natural born as any person born inside the US border.
the parents are only a factor if you are born outside the US
look up the 14th ammendment on your own and tell me what you find