Hawaiian Senator said Obama not releasing long-form BC to hide identity or citizenship of his father

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It could have to do with what his name is on the birth certificate, who is actually listed as his father, the citizenship of the father,' Slom elaborated.

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While people debate if he was born in Hawaii, the media never brings up that the place of birth may not be the number one reason as to why Obama is not releasing the BC.

Originally posted by filosophia
Obama is not releasing the BC.

Except that Obama HAS released his birth certificate (more than any other POTUS did whilst President) - why do birthers keep claiming he has not?

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I can debate on both sides of this issue.
However, not wanting to show your Birth Cirtificate to cover up your fathers identity and citizenship is totaly believeable, more so when you're the president. I don't think anyone is after his father though so it shouldn't be a huge deal if he shows it. Just like what Donald Trump said, If he has nothing to hide about where he was born, then just show your birth cirtificate and put this entire issue to rest.

reply to post by dereks
They are referring to the "long form" original birth certificate sir. Not the "certificate of live birth". Mr Obama could simply show his original long form birth certificate and end all this. Why won't he?

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by filosophia
Obama is not releasing the BC.

Except that Obama HAS released his birth certificate (more than any other POTUS did whilst President) - why do birthers keep claiming he has not?

edit on 25/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)

While im not totally on board with the birther movement, i am following its development. What was released was a Certificate of Live Birth. Not the real Birth Certificate. A certificate of Live birth is considered the short form. It is also possible to go and get a certificate of live birth from whatever state you live in, as all it states is that you were born, not where you were born. hope that clears some misunderstanding up.

Originally posted by derst1988
What was released was a Certificate of Live Birth. Not the real Birth Certificate

Not that birther lie again, Obama showed the only birth certificate Hawaii currently issues. It IS a birth certificate

With all respect, this story can solve some of the mysteries solving your presidents birth cert.

Birthers ignore chance to view Obama birth info

Just a quote from the article:

In April, only The Associated Press and one other person had looked at the binder, according to a sign-in sheet in the state Department of Health building. The sheet showed about 25 names of people who have seen the document since March 2010, when the sign-in sheet begins.

Personally, I think it's an issue of people jumping on a familiar bandwagon, without first determining what truth there is to the matter.

Anyway, he's your president, not mine Good luck!

Sen

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by filosophia
Obama is not releasing the BC.

Except that Obama HAS released his birth certificate (more than any other POTUS did whilst President) - why do birthers keep claiming he has not?

edit on 25/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)

And since when did the citizenship of his father have anything to do with anything either? Do any of these birthers know anything about the US at all?

Birthers:
The Federal Government has to accept Hawaii's word as to what they say a birth certificate is.
There is nothing about the citizenship of his father in the eligibility requirements.

It is certainly not about who his real father or mother were!


He daren't admit that his whole background story is just pure fiction - that 'Dreams from my Father' was a story created by Bill Ayres

And then there is all the school, college etc records that will probably show him registered as a Muslim Indonesian Citizen.

Fraudulent use of social security no's etc - Barry is going to jail when this comes out!

Originally posted by SerenityGained
With all respect, this story can solve some of the mysteries solving your presidents birth cert.

Birthers ignore chance to view Obama birth info

Your link certainly bears repeating and another quote

Lost in the renewed scrutiny into US President Barack Obama's birth records is the fact that anyone can walk into a Hawaii vital records office, wait in line behind couples getting marriage licences and open a baby-blue government binder containing basic information about his birth.

Nice find!

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by derst1988
What was released was a Certificate of Live Birth. Not the real Birth Certificate

Not that birther lie again, Obama showed the only birth certificate Hawaii currently issues. It IS a birth certificate

Alright fine, like i said im not really a birther , more of a bystander. Attached is a picture of a 1961 (same year as obama) hawaii BC. The person was born a day after obama.

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
It is certainly not about who his real father or mother were!


He daren't admit that his whole background story is just pure fiction - that 'Dreams from my Father' was a story created by Bill Ayres

And then there is all the school, college etc records that will probably show him registered as a Muslim Indonesian Citizen.

Fraudulent use of social security no's etc - Barry is going to jail when this comes out!

...and then there is JohhnyBGood just making stuff up again and repeating things he knows he cannot source or confirm including supposition about things like religion that have no bearing on anything.

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And then there is all the school, college etc records that will probably show him registered as a Muslim Indonesian Citizen.

Indonesia does not classify anybody based upon their religion. I've lived there for about 8 years previously. May have even ran into Barry Obama

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by derst1988
What was released was a Certificate of Live Birth. Not the real Birth Certificate

Not that birther lie again, Obama showed the only birth certificate Hawaii currently issues. It IS a birth certificate

Do you suppose that would be good enough for even the lowest grade security clearance?

Then why are you content for that to apply to someone privy to every national secret, the nuclear button etc etc.

Originally posted by derst1988
Attached is a picture of a 1961 (same year as obama) hawaii BC. The person was born a day after obama.

That link does not work, but what has a birth certificate issued in 1961 have to do with Obama's birth certificate?

Malcolm X is his father.

'Nuff said.

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Do you suppose that would be good enough for even the lowest grade security clearance?

Yes, of course it is. It is Obama's birth certificate accepted in all the states in the USA.

reply to post by dereks
You would be wrong sir.

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by derst1988
What was released was a Certificate of Live Birth. Not the real Birth Certificate

Not that birther lie again, Obama showed the only birth certificate Hawaii currently issues. It IS a birth certificate

It may be the only one CURRENTLY issued, but it wasn't back when Obama was born. We have all been told that there is a long form and the person currently running the hospital where he was born at has said that he has seen it with his own two eyes.

I for one believe that there is a long form and that he was born in Hawaii. I just think that the reason he won't sign a release of information and show it to us all is that it possibly has a religion box on it and it has been filled in by the dreaded word "muslim".

But yes, there is a long form and if he is going to go halfway and show the short form, he might as well go all the way and give us the long form. Not to do so is just making it seem as if he is hiding something.

Originally posted by Becoming
is that it possibly has a religion box on it and it has been filled in by the dreaded word "muslim".

It doesnt have a religion box - why dont people who post in threads bother to read them and follow links?