Im not a birther.. in fact, I am only passively watching this whole debate as there are larger fish to fry at the moment.. HOWEVER:
I dont like Obama as a president for the same reasons I didnt like Bush... but Obama has spent an incredible amount of money on this birth certificate
nonsense.Though I agree with some of the anti-birther stuff, he has never shown his long form and I feel that is a fact. I tend to think that he WAS
born here... but the BC may contain information on it that is more of a person issue than a birth place issue. Things that the newborn wasnt a part of
but the adult man could unjustly pay for by a very judgmental public.
Since we are all speculating, let me add a few speculative ideas:
He was listed as white and not black. Kinda rough to be the first black president when youre half and listed as white. I saw the "African" thing
and thats simply laughable.
His father is not the father listed on his BC. Adopted or blank or whatever... Obama chose to recognize his real father as an adult and shouldnt be
held to the fire for it.
Since Obama started running for Prez it has been tossed around that his real father was Malcolm X due to who the mom hobknobed with and the similarity
between the two.
A father wasnt listed at all.
His name was not Barack Hussein Obama originally.
And several more SPECULATIVE issues that could be the case since not one of us knows the truth yet.
SO many things that are possibilities and to center on him not being an American citizen is counting out the more likely scenarios given the time in
which he was born, his mothers odd behavior and identity issues, and more common things that would hurt him but he had no way to prevent it as he was
a newborn when it occurred. People already ridicule his half black status ( yet claiming to be the first black president) and parentage rather than
judging him on his performance as Commander in Chief, could you imagine the nonsense if he was born Barry Soetero or listed as white?
Im older... I got to gripe about Carter, Reagan, Bush1, bush2, Clinton, blah blah blah... I even recall the horror over Geraldine Ferraro daring to
run for VP because she had a vagina. Oh the HORROR! We're all choosing ridiculous things to center on concerning judging the leaders of our
country... and theyre all corrupt and have skeletons... they also all lie and it comes out in the wash. Then we can all feel stupid for supporting
harmful leaders and adroit liars together in the end. Kumbaya..
some of the birthers on ATS are misinformed/lying about a few things... and its making you all look like lunatics. Stick with the facts when youre
The one that gets me is that Ive had a passport since 1976 and have renewed it every 10 yrs.. and I have NEVER been asked to show a
"long form"... only the common BC we are all used to using for ID purposes. This isnt the only BS Ive seen, but its the most simple one to put to
rest.. and has been a hundred times yet still said as if its fact.