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Forget the Birth Certificate! Wheres the Proof He Even Existed?

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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by Buford2
 


How could the CIA have set up the KKK 80 years (or 30 years for the second KKK) before the CIA existed?


If you truly don't know who really runs things in this good ole U.S.of A., and if your for real, it may be time for you to step out of the box and do some research on your own. And start doing it right away before there is no more access to the information that's out there.
Or you can just keep moseying along with blinders like those horses that pull carriages along as to not get startled by other traffic. It's all up to you.




posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist
reply to post by hawkiye
 


How do you know that transcripts and enrollment records for Obama at his old high school and college don't exist? I would like to see the source on this. And a bit of information regarding his past:



Some of the sites list names of professors as well as other people.

Take the information on these sites with a grain of salt because I haven't validated the sources and I haven't cross-checked anything. And likewise, I would like you to provide some sources that claim specific records -- aside from Obama's birth certificate -- don't exist, and that people in Obama's past don't remember him during those times.
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abcnews.go.com... www.snopes.com... www.nytimes.com...

All liberal propaganda machines.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 04:01 AM
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For the NY Times and CBS news, as much as I agree with you, for the sake of the readers of this thread, for a claim like yours to be made proof and reasoning has to be provided.

All of the sources that I provided have names in them that if a person was really dedicated to this effort they could call or what have you to find out and validate the information for themselves. And the information I provided is still more valid than what... a chain email?



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 04:01 AM
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Drudge Report has many, many times come out with news well before the MSM came out with. And most news that the MSM refuse to report.
You are just one of those that refuse to wake up and smell the coffee. Please wake up already, that is if your real of course. For all we know we could be replying to an automated computer program that's designed to spit out rebukes against the opposition.
Maybe that's what's been going on all this time, and here we thought we were responding to real people all along. No wonder, I thought, man are they spraying that much chemtrails, and it's so much chemical that's affecting people. But yet no cause there's a lot that can see.
Please mods, don't delete this post, it's still on topic. Just trying to drive a point across.


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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Unknown Soldier
 


I agree with you! The repubs did almost nothing to promote their candidate. They sabotaged McCain and Palin when they could have put their support behind them. Instead they sat back and watched from the sidelines. The McCain campaign staff even bad mouthed Palin. McCain outlasted Romney and the others through Soros money. McCain himself did almost nothing to really debate Obama. It was almost as if he himself did not even care if he won.


McCain and Palin was just there for show. The real deal was for Obama to get in all along, it was so obvious.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Buford2
 


Anyone who is here because they think they are fighting the NWO then supports Barry is under some kind of crazy hypnosis. Oh wait, Barry uses mass hypnosis techniques. I read a paper on it. That little thing he does with his thumb and forefinger when he's trying to make a point...
Here's the PDF, it's worth the read. Maybe some will snap out of it.





It's called bliss, he gets all dressed in white, than he kneels down on this round platform of light in the W.H. than he showers bliss all over the people.
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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 04:41 AM
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I was interested in seeing what I would come up with in terms of Obamas past so I asked the question to the popular Google. The question.... Where did Michelle and Obama meet? Should have been pretty simple. The first 5 responces, I got 2 (tunc.biz and answers.com) who say they met at harvard. 2 ( wikipedia and askville) that say they met at the law firm sidley austin. Newsweek referred to a statement Obama made while addressing a group from Moscow University indicating he met michelle at harvard. The article continued, however, this must be a mistake by obama as Michelle graduated in spring of 1988 from harvard and obama did not begin attending harvard till that fall. The article then implied the 2 met at the law firm. Huh!!??



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 04:51 AM
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Is this yet another example of conflicting information which only fuels the birther debate, although Im told thats now all cleared up.....are we sure?

So were did they meet? at/or in the cinema, a republican swingers club.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by drifter1109
I was interested in seeing what I would come up with in terms of Obamas past so I asked the question to the popular Google. The question.... Where did Michelle and Obama meet? Should have been pretty simple. The first 5 responces, I got 2 (tunc.biz and answers.com) who say they met at harvard. 2 ( wikipedia and askville) that say they met at the law firm sidley austin. Newsweek referred to a statement Obama made while addressing a group from Moscow University indicating he met michelle at harvard. The article continued, however, this must be a mistake by obama as Michelle graduated in spring of 1988 from harvard and obama did not begin attending harvard till that fall. The article then implied the 2 met at the law firm. Huh!!??


There you go, you see, when it's a lie it's bound to unravel. There's just to many media outlets to contend with.
How you gonna get everyone on the same track to lie for you, there's not enough money in the world to get everybody to say the same thing.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 05:16 AM
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How do you know that transcripts and enrollment records for Obama at his old high school and college don't exist? I would like to see the source on this. And a bit of information regarding his past:


Because he has gone to great lengths not to let anyone look at them. There are all kinds of sites that claim to list things but there is no proof. Any site can say he went to Columbia list professors, ok great lets see the transcripts from your time there. Nope sorry no one is allowed to see those... Well why not?... Silence.... Oh well ok let contact some of the professors... oops none of them remember him... you get the idea.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 05:29 AM
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Hi all,

Forgive my ignorance, looking through this thread I've seen mentioned more than a few times that some of you think that Obama is destroying the USA.

Now as a Brit (the 3rd most hated county in the world) I'd like to know why some of you think that?

America is regarded as one of the most arrogant and generally ignorant countries in the world (yes I'm aware of the irony of a Brit making the statement) - how do Obama's actions make things any worse?

This is not a piss-taking statement, simply an honest question.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by marcsnothere
Why is this thread not in the RANT section??


Because the mods must be republican, they seem to let threads like this run for days, let it had been something about bush or republicans, you would of got a political tos violation...TSA> style, with no Vaseline.

Cavities search anyone?

But then again, I like to see threads like this; it lets me know ‘WHO’S not smarter then a 5th grader ‘





Textbut it's niggled at me for ages that no one who ever dated him ever showed up.




Textnot one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer!!" Now look at the rest of this... no classmates, not even the recorder for the Columbia class notes ever heard of him....




TextEver wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him




TextThis should really be a cause for great concern.




TextTo those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man.




TextWayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia .. EVER!



I think the founders of this SITE should make a forum called 'BELOW ATS' forget hoax, forget skunk works, just a forum called

'WAY BELOW ATS STANDARDS'

'WBAS'

BECAUSE IF THE REPUTATION ON THIS SITE IS TO 'DENY 'IGNORANCE'

Then ‘Way below ATS standards’ should be added as A reality switch, that ats will live and die by what they stand fore....Period !!!


What do you call someone who exaggerates to impress you for example a person gives advise when they have little or no knowledge of the subject?


Read more: wiki.answers.com... dge_of_the_subject#ixzz1K6uuyjor

answer
One has to be careful in labeling such a person. They could have narcissistic qualities, DO think they know it all, or just perhaps they worry about you and want to help the best way they can even if the advice isn't knowledgeable. Some people may have a low confidence level, lack enough education and are trying hard to fit in. You are either going to have to accept this person for the way they are or, you are going to have to walk away.

i think ill walk away...

edit on 20-4-2011 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)


Just listen the the ATS radio program. It's a bit right of center.

Let me run some names, slang and phrases. ATS live stream, Alex Jones, Birthers, Donald Trump, Tea Party, Obama is a Muslim, Ron and Rand Paul, The FED prints money out of thin air, The Federal Government monetizes debt. (keep in mind we do not have a national bank of the U.S. so the last two phrases are impossible) Alien abduction and their space craft from outer space, (supposedly the hosts here claim some are legit reports just listen to last Sunday's Live Stream to verify. Reality is none are of course) Glen Beck, FOX, .



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 06:05 AM
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See this post from other thread below
posted on 21-4-2011 @ 02:38 AM this post Originally posted by marcsnothere

www.abovetopsecret.com...

these things keep popping up



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 06:20 AM
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Didnt Obama have a scottish lecturer at some point . I remember some scottish guy on tv saying that he was his best pupil and all that , that he relished a challenge and was very adapt at handling problems and was quick to give in depth answers .

I cant remember the guys name though , but he was definitely scottish !



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by RoguePhilosopher
See this post from other thread below
posted on 21-4-2011 @ 02:38 AM this post Originally posted by marcsnothere

www.abovetopsecret.com...

these things keep popping up


Right, it's a classic disinformation campaign tactic. Quote a credible source that made an error or say the credible source said something they did not, and then claim the source document no longer exists.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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Now remember if the instructor likes you and agrees with what you are saying, it's an "in depth" answer, but if he or she does not you're "being digressive."


Sounds like maybe Obama was a master politician even back at the ole Yard. Tell'em what they want to hear and ace every course.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:13 AM
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The OP has some good points. There is just one thing.

At this point, his birth is pointless. Obama's in office and the odds of getting him out due to birth status is pretty much over.

I mean really.

People are barely aware that he's a socialist and keeps company with known US terrorists (Ayers).

His "leadership"
during our economy should be more than enough to can his butt!

I didnt really like Bush 1 or 2 or Clinton but crap!!! This dude makes them look like rock stars!


The "race" thing? Really didnt give a crap then OR now (short of being a muslim). JC Watts and Alan Keys were on my want list back then!

For all of the idiots here that immediately start on "oh, if he wasnt black you wouldnt be saying xyz!!!": Take a long walk off a short cliff. Calling people racist because they dont agree with you is juvenile at best and aggravating at worst. Most of Saul Alinskies "tricks" dont work on us.

IMHO, calling someone racist (for stupid reasons), hate monger, conspiracy nut, ect. can all be fixed quickly and easily.....A PUNCH IN THE FACE


Face it folks (pun intended), we have major problems. We have NO leadership, the economy is being expertly steered into the rocks, our troops are being used to fight stupid wars instead of making our borders safe, and the world is starting to breath down our neck!

Does barry need to go? Hell yeah. Is there anyone running right now that might be worth a crap? maybe.

Henry Cain? Ron Paul?

yeah. I'm a white guy and would STILL vote for a black man....if he was legit.

But, I"m racist



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by vjr1113


here you go
and here is a news paper announcing his birth




now, evidence like this would surely put an end to most conspiracies, but i know it wont be enough for most

here's the dated page


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edit on 20-4-2011 by vjr1113 because: (no reason given)


I know this is Skunkworks, but 'Wow'. This post has actual evidence, obviously the poster went to a little effort to find the information and is doing what a good ATS'er is supposed to do, Deny ignorance.

So, why does this post only have a dozen stars when all the posts around have no evidence, are opinions only, were obviously written without any effort and all have 3 times the stars?

I expect ignorant posts (and have made may of my own), but to be rewarded for them is just stupid. It's another symptom of why America is falling, ignorance rewarding ignorance in a vicious cycle fed by people outside the cycle who use your ignorance for their own purposes.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
He SAID it's what they didn't find that matters...


Of course it's what they DIDN'T find that matters. Everything they found is legit. The ONLY "evidence" that birthers and now pasters (those obsessed with details of Obama's past) have, is that which doesn't exist!



Originally posted by Beaux
Did you want to see the wedding register too or is this enough? Maybe the signed guestbook?


Yes, and could you manage a pic of their honeymoon night, too? Just so we know they consummated their marriage ON the wedding night like normal American people do. Thanks.



Originally posted by Buford2
reply to post by filosophia
 


Another fake picture released to fool the sheep. Notice Barry's fingers. Fake and photoshopped. A great deal of his released pics have been found to be fake.


Do you need help moving that goalpost or can you handle it on our own? These pictures have been available since we knew who Obama was. And NOW... four years later, everyone is claiming that they're fakes.
Just when the birther bill dies, and the haters need a fix, they create the "edited pictures" conspiracy just as they created the "edited COLB" conspiracy.
This is like watching a circus freak show!



Originally posted by Buford2
Why do people keep calling him Obama.


Not that you had much credibility to begin with, but every time you say something ridiculous like this, you lose it.


Originally posted by hawkiye
So lets keep it simple He supposedly graduated from Columbia yet no transcripts or enrolment records and not a single person student or faculty or janitor for that matter remembers him... Why?


This is a lie. I don't know if you've been shown the plethora of proof that has been posted or not, but if you repeat the birther lies, don't be surprised when you get called a birther.


Originally posted by hawaii50th
All liberal propaganda machines.


Well, of course they are!
Anything that tells the truth is a "liberal propaganda machine"!
We should be looking at the conservative blogger, Noquarter and WND for the REAL truth, huh? Conservative propaganda machines are ever so much more accurate than credible proof.
You are a riot, you are!!

reply to post by drifter1109
 


I googled Obama's favorite toilet paper and Newsweek says it's Northern, CBS says it's Charmin and Rolling Stone says he uses the scratchy stuff and likes it! It's clear that this means he probably uses leaves that are gathered up from the White House lawn the previous Fall! How gross! This guy is a traitor! He probably uses the Constitution!

Hey, everyone! Obama wipes his butt with leaves and the Constitution! I'm startin' a thread!



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Karen you are in no way the type of person I was referring too. You were someone who truly did need help and from the sound of it you didn't get enough to truly help and for that I'm sorry. You sound like an honest person who just wanted a better life for herself and your child and I applaud you for the hard work you have done to get where you are. You are not a part of the problem, if anything I can relate to you because I have two sons and was making 8.50 an hour for the first two years of their life, while mom took care of them during the day. I still remeber having to choose between eating at night or making sure they had enough to eat and the baby boy had formula, so please do understand I can truly relate to your position. We did not get any assistance, but that was by choice because of what I have experienced before in my dealings with the state. I know what it means to suffer, and from your reaction and what you describe I know you know how that feels, so please do accept my heart felt apology for any offense I have caused to you. I don't know who you are, but I am proud you have strived hard and made a better life for yourself and your child. YOU are the type of person I champion and believe able Americans should help, I would if I could afford to. Thats what I meant about looking out for your neighbor. Too many people have the ability to help and don't, while those who really need help have to fight against those who don't and just want the money. I say this from experiences with the hundreds of collection agents I have supported since I started my IT position 4 years ago. Please believe me when I tell you that I have personally seen over 100 people come to work here, then quit a month later to re-up their unemployment, many of whom have explicitly explained to me how they do it and why.
So again, please accept my apology, perhaps my post was too broadly written and not specific enough in my reference of true leeches. I wish you and your family nothing but prosperity and happiness.



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