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Originally posted by RicoMarston
reply to post by SpeachM1litant
you efforts are valiant, but johnnybgood will never read that article and never change his mind. People who refer to Muslims or Arabs as THEM are beyond help. How can you help somebody who thinks that if you're a Muslim, you have to go to the secret Kill America meetings?
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Originally posted by RicoMarston
reply to post by SpeachM1litant
you efforts are valiant, but johnnybgood will never read that article and never change his mind. People who refer to Muslims or Arabs as THEM are beyond help. How can you help somebody who thinks that if you're a Muslim, you have to go to the secret Kill America meetings?
Its quite simple really - as a muslim you are owned mind body and soul by Islam - you do not get to choose, question or criticise under penalty of death - your obligation is to submit unquestioningly and uncomplainingly to the dictats of the Koran, to the exampleof Mohammed and to the Haddith. This is the complete unchangeable and eternal truth for all time - written by Allah himself.
[So you're a Muslim? or just an expert on the Koran? each and every book of "holy" scripture on this planet has crazy stuff in it for extremists to cling to. Not only is that a mischaracterization of Islam, but it also ignores the moderate Muslims who are VERY vocal in their opposition to extremism. It just doesn't get covered on Fox News, so it's no wonder you haven't heard of them.]
The Koran states quite clearly that it is an obligation to wage jihad against the unbelievers until the whole world is subdued, that Kaffirs (thats you) are lower than pigs and dogs and whose life is worth nothing.
[Where? which verse? quote it. I'm sure we could all take turns misinterpreting it. When Jews use the term gentile, they mean it as a compliment?]
Now whilst I appreciate there are many lax and backsliding muslims - they dont have a scriptural leg to stand on when trying to hold back the extremists - which is why they are utterly silent and are mostly cheerleading from the sidelines anyway.
[So, if they reject this part of Islam which you claim to be the be all end all of their religion, then they aren't good Muslims. If they are violent extremists, they aren't good people. So which is it? Should they be principled and stick to their guns, or bend to your will and forsake their religious values (values which you have, in fact, just made up off the top of your head)?]
I don't blamethe Muslims - they are simply brainwashed from birth and know no better - I do blame the Western apologists for them though - true they are the victims of the PC indoctrination that is the modern educational system - but it still requires a special of intellectual dishonesty - to not admit that you only support the muslims because you hate the West just as much as they do!
[Ah, I see. Muslim extremism shouldn't be blamed on the Muslim leaders who manipulate their desperate, half-starved followers, it's liberal America's fault! If we weren't so hellbent on being PC all time, Muslim extremism wouldn't have happened! It seems that you have been brainwashed from birth to view foreigners as "them" and "other" and subjects to serve the great and holy American Empire.
I love this country and if you said to my face that I hate us like the jihadists do, I'd show you how much I love this country. I love her so much that I'm willing to set aside my differences with her enemies to achieve peace, which benefits U.S. in the long run.
The world's problems are far more complicated than "Muslims are bad! Jews are good!" The intricacies of cultural development, evolution and downfall obviously escape you. Just cling to your petty little beliefs and you and the OP can go on with your hate fest while the rest of us try to work out this whole peace love and understanding thing.]
Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by CountDrac
Here's another article about your OP..
This one from 2004 and on a Jewish site..
Note this little bit..
* This is a free translation of an article reportedly first published in a Spanish newspaper (original article in Spanish). The editor of this site could not confirm the name of the author. A variant of the name is Sebastian Villar Rodriguez. The author's name appears to be a pseudonym, apparently to avoid attack by Arabs.
www.science.co.il...
So who was it really written by?????
Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by inforeal
You cant answer all the facts so you attack me personally. I think everything I wrote is true and most of it was written by a Spanish writer who gave an accurate account of what he sees happening to Europe...
Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
Goodness= Love, Order and Peace
Evil= Chaos, Anger and Hate
Look at all the world religions and there is only one that seems to feed on Chaos, Anger and Hate. I will leave it to you to figure it out..
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
reply to post by RicoMarston
I am trying to tell you that Islam is pure evil - it is a shame you cannot grasp that!