Muslims VS Jews. Some interesting facts, page 1
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Topic started on 15-4-2011 @ 02:10 AM by CountDrac
The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15, 2008. It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.


REMEMBER AS YOU READ -- IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER
Date: Tue. 15 January 2008 14:30

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz .. We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, International trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ...

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai

Economics:
(zero)

Physics:
(zero)

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

TOTAL: 7 SEVEN

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
1996- Lu RoseIacovino
TOTAL: 129!


The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims. The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.

The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them.

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:

'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel ." Benjamin Netanyahu


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:17 AM by CountDrac
reply to post by The Sword



I am personally an atheist. I’m just stating some facts.



reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:26 AM by backinblack
reply to post by CountDrac



Your author seems to be considered a fake..

It's also not from 2008 as you suggest..

Here's an article on it from 2006 to prove my point..

By Bernie on 27 Feb 2006
Here is the post, usually prefaced by Written by Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez, Spanish Writer or "This is a translation of an article from a Spanish newspaper":

plancksconstant.org...

Search his name and you get many hits saying it's a fictitious name..
Probably a hit piece out of Israel..


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:27 AM by idonotcollectstamps
Give them time. They are still a very young religion that is just starting to awaken to the realization that a modern world has sprung up all around them. The more that we can get them to be moderates instead of fundamentalists the more you will see contributions from them as a group. Amazing things came from the Persians and the Arabs before fundamentalist Islam sunk its claws into them. We will see some amazing things from these people yet again if they can cast off the chains of fundamentalism and embrace moderate Islam.

Think of how many hundreds of years fundamentalist Christianity has held back mankind. Think of how long that religion was around for. Once the change from fundamentalism took place then the moderates took over. Suddenly we are on the freaking moon.

It will be a battle between the religion of Islam itself more than anything. IF there is no World War Three Holy War Edition, which I unfortunately do not see a way to avoid, IF we can avoid a holy world war three then Moderate Islam will have to destroy Fundamentalist Islam. Before fundamentalist Islam the middle east was the place that civilization is though to have first appeared. The contributions to the world that came from these people before fundamentalist Islam right up until around the year 1100 A.D. were so vast that it is almost surreal. We just need to get those people back from the grip of the imams and hardliners who determine what happens in the religion as a whole.

The problem is that the moderate in religion comes from taking scripture less and less literally, and this is something that the fundamentalists call "Blasphemy" that they kill you for. Good luck Islam, you are going to need it. If you cannot cast off the chains of fundamentalism then we will probably wipe you all out. There is no other way around it.


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:32 AM by CountDrac
reply to post by SpeachM1litant



they have been financially well off for a reason. think a why that is...


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:35 AM by backinblack
reply to post by CountDrac



Here's another article about your OP..
This one from 2004 and on a Jewish site..

Note this little bit..
* This is a free translation of an article reportedly first published in a Spanish newspaper (original article in Spanish). The editor of this site could not confirm the name of the author. A variant of the name is Sebastian Villar Rodriguez. The author's name appears to be a pseudonym, apparently to avoid attack by Arabs.

www.science.co.il...

So who was it really written by?????


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:35 AM by The Sword
reply to post by CountDrac



These "facts" are meaningless because they ignore factors outside of nobel prize winners.

As a fellow atheist, I felt it necessary to point these things out.


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:35 AM by bluemirage5
reply to post by CountDrac



Very well written, crudos to you.......

Except you made just one mistake; the sex slave trade of European women (mostly from the Soviet Union) trafficking in to Israel is rife. It's estimated between 10,000 to 15,000 young girls have been smuggled in illegally. The industry in Israel is worth a $billion every year.
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reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:55 AM by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by JohhnyBGood



This is just another intolerant generilization. I have met many muslims far more intellectually capable then white people. It all depends on your surroundings. Many muslims are subjected to conditions of developing countries where they are members of a survivalist society. They do not have the ability to obtain higher education therefor they are educationally disabled. I suggest you read this article off of foreign affairs, titled "How Development Leads to Democracy". You will realise that peoples educational and intellectual achievments have nothing to do with race and religion but rather correlate with economic factors prevelant throughout where they live. In other words you are a product of your enviroment. Many of the reasons why muslims live in enviroments which are less intellectually stimulated and developed is becuase of foreign multi-national corporations which have exploited their wealth and indirectly repressed dissents to such as system.
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reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:55 AM by P3ACE0WAR
reply to post by CountDrac



Collectively judging two religious population without context is very ignorant.


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 03:07 AM by JohhnyBGood
Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
reply to
post by JohhnyBGood



This is just another intolerant generilization. I have met many muslims far more intellectually capable then white people. It all depends on your surroundings. Many muslims are subjected to conditions of developing countries where they are members of a survivalist society. They do not have the ability to obtain higher education therefor they are educationally disabled. I suggest you read this article off of foreign affairs, titled "How Development Leads to Democracy". You will realise that peoples educational and intellectual achievments have nothing to do with race and religion but rather correlate with economic factors prevelant throughout where they live. In other words you are a product of your enviroment. Many of the reasons why muslims live in enviroments which are less intellectually stimulated and developed is becuase of foreign multi-national corporations which have exploited their wealth and indirectly repressed dissents to such as system.
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No this is a factual comparison. - the major correlation between wealth and nationality is average IQ level ,followed by political system and religion - Muslims fail in all three categories made much much worse by their habit of first cousin marriages leading to widspread mental impairment.


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 03:15 AM by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by JohhnyBGood



If you took the time to read the article I provided you would have understood that intellectual levels are dictated by economic development in most cases, political institution correlate with intellectual levels which are dictated by economic development. People in developing countries hold traditional values in a higher regard as they do not have the capability to philosophize about politics as they are to pre-occupied with achieving security and economic stability. Immortal Technique puts it best "Most my Latino and Black people who are struggling to get food, clothes and shelter in the hood are so concerned with that, that philosophizing about freedom and socialist democracy is ussually, unforunately beyond their rational.
However if you place a muslim in the same enviroment as a well off jew, you will realise that there is no distinction between intellectual levels.


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 03:16 AM by P3ACE0WAR
reply to post by JohhnyBGood



If you haven't noticed throughout history, almost every civilization at one time was ahead of all civilizations. You act like the West will be leading the world for ever. That is called arrogance.

The West has built on knowledge passed on by the previous empires, remember the golden age of Islam?

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