reply to post by nenothtu
Odd that I was told a similar story about the "Couple Thousand Years War" by a Syrian around 1978. In his version, though, Rome had already been
defeated. According to him, Syria would not now exist as a bastion of Islam if the Romans hadn't been defeated by the Muslims. He said Syria was a
Roman area before the Muslims handed Rome's own ass back to it, and just took Syria from them.
It's true the whole area was Roman including Judea and Samaria, both of which are Roman names. But there are two things to consider Islam is really
but an extension of Roman Catholicism with some twists, same God, Jesus is a prophet but not the Son of God and an additional Prophet, Mohamed simply
fine tunes the religion a bit further to create a necessary division to set up a 'statist' race in colonizing the world by eliminating or Romanizing
all first world's people with some basic common principles in Trade and Commerce, Law, and religion.
When the Iranian President greets a talk show host like Larry King with a Master Mason's handshake it might cause an astute observer to question just
how divided the leaders are of these states, all contracted to Rome at one point in time, many with International Corporations owned by the principle
oligarchs more or less running their economies.
I contend Rome faked it's own death to set up a more efficient system of Statism and Divide and Conquer that was economically less costly as well.
Do keep in mind that the present system run by the Vatican of Dioces which are Roman States cover the world, each ruled by a Cardinal whose Blood Red
Robes are meant to signify the blood that they are willing to spill for Rome.
Israel "kick out the zionists" and make peace ( I presume you mean for them to make peace with Islam) at what price?
The original accord that the Palestinians thought would represent the Post Ottoman Status Quo called for one state, named Palestine with 48% of the
land going to the Jews in a semi-atonymous region, 52% of the land going to the Palestinians in a semi-atonymous region, meaning neither would
actually be in charge of the state but that each would have a region of basic self governance within the state, with Jerusalem belonging to Rome and
the Holly See in perpituity and an International Body governing the over all state.
I think this is what the Palestinians really want, what they were originally promised, and yes that would be the destruction of Israel on Paper since
it was never meant to exist on Paper in the original treaty but does not specifically call for, nor do I think it is meant to imply the physical
exterimination of every Jew living on the land.
Is the price of that too high? Well it seemed like a great deal to the Zionists who first agreed to it, and the Jewish Refugees streaming out of
Europe who had no place else to go.
The Zionists once encamped in Palestine constantly plotted for more including buying key swaths of lands to block nomadic herding routes, deliberate
efforts like that to make the Arab economy untennable by design and buying key swaths of land to make sure that the Palestinians could not have a
contiquous 52% of the land.
These things are glossed over and ignored in Zionist History but they are very much a part of real history including the bloody terrorist campaigns
carried out by the Jews to kick out the International Parties the British and the UN, to terrorize Jews into not doing any kind of business with the
Arabs that would aide their economy and attacks on Palestinians too, including and up to masacaring entire villages in the dead of the night every
man, woman and child.
Simply put while the Palestinians are guilty of many political blunders when it came to understanding the machinations of the much more worldly
British and Zionists the tensions that quickly developed, developed because the Zionists really did not want to honor the original deal.
So from a legal standpoint, treaties, honoring them, working within the constructs of the law, etc. the Zionists really did commit a lot of crimes
early on with bad intent.
That shouldn't be overlooked in all the emotional propaganda to flow out of there since.
Death really IS prefferrable to some of the price tags attached to some things these days, and one of those price tags seems to be the eradication of
Israel anyhow, so what difference does it make to them if they go down swinging or go down whimpering? Dead is still dead, in either case.
I believe the Palestinians were more than prepared to accept 'honest' Zionist and Jewish settlement within the frame work of the original agreement.
We will never know since the Zionists began conspiring almost immediately against every party to the agreement through a number of tactics laid out in
the Zionist manefesto used by the Jewish Terrorist Groups and Militias detailing how to achieve the 'greater Isreal' they wanted, versus the 48% of
Palestine that the International Body had alloted them.
Yes after Yitzak Shamir murdered the UN Special Envoy and the British withdrew because the cost in Blood they were paying in administering the Mandate
became too high, blood that the Jews were spilling not the Arabs and Israel declared Statehood in violation of the Agreements grabbing for more land
at the same time, the hastily put together Arab armies tried to pick up and enforce what the British and UN could not because of Jewish Malfeasance.
Is that really much or any different than the coalitions we are always putting together to right wrongs?
Many would argue and argue with a lot of valid points that the Zionists instigated the Hostilities to suit themselves and their grab for a greater
However I do believe the Palestinians are prepared to honor the original accord and that would mean a rather propserous situation of free trade for
both and us not having to spend billions in this violent process of maintaining the Military Status Quo in Israel.
However I suspect it is our own Oil Companies the International Oligarchs who prefer the current arrangement because it keeps the price of oil
insanely high and it furthers Rome plan along which basically is one huge climatic battle fought over Israel before the implementation of a one world
government to rid the world of the religiously inclined and the power of the Statist Militaries.
Isreal is toast if it does not make peace. It's also going to require us additionally going after the oligarchs, like the banks and the oil companies
and their well hidden owners of preferred stock who are also principles of the Military Industrial Complex.
As far as Christianity, Judaism, and Islam being outlawed in a NWO goes, that's been done to all of the above (well, maybe not Islam - I don't know
of anywhere it has ever been outlawed) before. Oddly, it tended to strengthen the other two and give them more converts every time it's been tried.
Probably a bad strategy, but it's Rome's to pursue if they wish.
You know you and I have had our differences of oppinion but I actually like you and consider you to be a decent man.
As a resiliant man with some signifigant military experience and capable of improvisation you are no doubt a formidable man and one not to trifle
However having said that, how do you imagine you would really fare with what you have at hand against a host of technologies that are on line, being
brought on line, and perhaps some secretly being held off line, that are well a whole lot more effective than a sling shot, musket or a M-16?
We have grown a huge military industrial complex of immense capabilities much of it now automated and remote controlled.
How many drone attacks can you withstand in your mountain hide away? How many infared and night vision sattelites can you hide from and for how long
in the woods?
How long can you hold out off the grid before you are going to have to pop up on it, will you be able to fool retina scans, and dna identification
Don't discount the technology they are bringing on line, their resolve to use it, because while we all cry about this school bus we all know darn
well our militaries have been butchering children forever.
We aren't all arguing over Israel for and against for no reason, it isn't kept in the forefront of the news for no reason, it's existence hasn't
led to the tensions that have allowed for the security state and the loss of our rights for no reason, it's not an accident, it's not a coincidence
it's a plan.
A plan set in motion a long time ago, a plan to divide us and make our passions run hot in a very long war of divide and conquer and a central part to
the endgame of ending that war and declaring a New World Order.
Pick your side carefully, for the eventual destruction of Israel and it is going to be destroyed is going to go hand in hand with the destruction of
all of our ways of life and most of us.
Look to the Georgia Guide Stones, the hidden men driving this control the oil, the banks, the food supplies, the communications, and the most
sophistated aspects of the Military Industrial Complex.
They control everything we all need to live, the use it to manipulate us all, and they really do want to lord over and control us all in a world that
they will always have absolute control of.
We have in fact handed them foolishly almost everything they need to do that.
Do you really want to bet they won't use it against us when they always have done just that?
I don't recommend it, it's not what you know or what you think you know that is going to kill you on this planet, it's the things that you don't