Originally posted by P3ACE0WAR
reply to post by nenothtu
Please write a reply in this thread, I've been waiting for someone to bring a critical piece of information to support the IDF claim that it was an
I call it a lie because anti-Tank missile would easily rip through the unarmored layers of the bus. Either the armor is strong enough to cause a huge
explosion, or it will rip right through, neither has happened. The black stain in the back of the bus shows the weapon has exploded.
It looks more like a home made rocket, see the black stain on the ground?
To be honest, most of the information I've gathered on this specific incident has come from this thread. Most of my replies have just been general
observations on how things go BOOM!, most specifically applied to shaped charge warheads.
Anti-tank weapons have shaped charge warheads of one variety or another, and I can't see anything inconsistent in the photos with a shaped charge.
BackInBlack says it hit the engine block. That would absorb most of the energy, and deflect the rest. In a mostly downward deflection, you'd see the
ass end of the bus jump up from the ground slightly as a reaction to the downward deflection (like a rocket engine propels a rocket) and leave a
star-shaped burn in the road as shown in your picture, with the center of the star shape directly below the center of the blast or deflection of the
blast. The black streaks are scorches left from the spread when the re-directed blast was again deflected by the road surface (again, like a rocket
exhaust). What was left to deflect upward would blow out windows and then dissipate.
There should be, in that case, either a blown out hole into the bus passenger compartment (near the engine compartment), OR blown out access covers,
to admit that part of the blast to the interior.
Mostly I think what is being argued here at this point is the size of the warhead, rather than the form of it - whether it was one of these newfangled
Russian AT guided missiles, or something lighter.
I'm not sure which thread you wanted me to post that in, but feel free to quote and link to this post if it was the other thread that you meant. We're
all friends here, even when we're fighting like cats and dogs. I reckon maybe it's either an Aussie, or hillbilly, or brotherly thing. Knock down,
drag out, then off for a brew.
Edit to add: Most of the blast in the "huge explosion" of an AT warhead is directed through the hole punched in the armor into the interior of the
vehicle, since the entire thing can't penetrate the armor intact. In the case of a sheet metal bus body, it COULD punch through, and not really
detonate until it hit the engine block.
Also, what is that thing beside the road in your photo? looks like an aluminum rocket engine body, complete with fins.
edit on 2011/4/14 by
nenothtu because: (no reason given)