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Originally posted by drunkasshole
reply to post by alienspOtter77
were blacks the only people that were slaves in history? do research, whites were slaves to, we dont want to say "you enslaved my ancestors. i want reperations" learn some history outside of america. i mean, damn.
Originally posted by Common Scarecrow
REPLY TO "TheWalkingFox"
You said ....... "It's not a quota system. It's not a discriminatory system."
I think YOU are the one who needs to do research on the term"affirmative action".
FACT: Most of my life I have worked for companies where the majority of the work was military in nature. I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but they are required to have in their employ a certain percentage of minorities to be able to meet the requirements to even bid on government jobs.
You said ....... "The reason there are no "calls for affirmative action" in the NFL, NBA, whatever, is exactly like you said; the people there are the people who are most qualified."
My question is, why should that same standard not apply to EVERY facet of life?
You said ....... "If you have a black ancestor, you're black in America."
Funny, I have never heard that "rule" before, unless maybe you are talking about the KKK mentality, which I hardly think prevails these days.
Originally posted by consciousrevolutionary
imagine yourself growing in a place where white is the minority, all members of power and authority are black. where the majority of top career positions are occupied by blacks, apart for the token white, all things you learn are of african origin and the way they are expressed is not your mothers tongue... you may also cry out for a little of your innate culture...
Originally posted by iameternity
When The Blacks start raping, beating, enslaving, working you to death, OWNING YOUR LIFE FROM BIRTH, and start hanging you like a spectacle so that everybody can see what happens if you even TRY to show some self worth. When this "future history" happens and you overcome the what seems to be impossible odds, then maybe I will have some sympathy to your argument
Originally posted by truthseeker321
I think November should be Native American History Month! Since Thanksgiving is in that month it would be a good fit. That way people would be reminded that Thanksgiving was when Natives saved the pilgrims by showing them how to farm the land and survive and in return they get killed off for their kindness. The Natives need a month for their real history to be exposed. I mean how many Native Americans do you see in a day?? I see whites, blacks everywhere. So stop complaining about when is WHITE history month. Everyday is about white history. My family is the only Oglala Sioux people in my city that I know of. Try being the only members of your race in a city. Then you can complain.
FOX news = WET
Originally posted by MavRck
Yeah... and where is the
WET ? (White Entertainment Network) ... obviously BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION. BET
Or the Caucasion network? (there are many east-indian, etc chnls in my area)
Or any white pride parades? Oh right... KKK took that too far.
Here is the thing, I am not racist. I never was. I think it's ridiculous.
I think it's ridiculous how all of or a great number of ethnicities have 'networks' and whatnot... but probably because i am WHITE.
The answer to your strugglesome question is this... White-man settled this land, and europe... the "minorities" need identifcation and uniquity by having these chennels etc because the REST of everything IS WHITE ...
It's basically "white day" every day.
My vote is for ZERO "pride" parades. Pride is for the inexperienced, unknowledged and naive.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by FPB214
As I've mentioned earlier in the thread, this system is pretty much the only way that even fragments of the whole picture get told. There is a very anglo-white leaning bias in history books. It's somewhat less of a problem these days, but that is very probably attributable to the observance of things like Black History Month.
Think about it, though. People like learning things they've never heard of before. And for this huge part of America's history, that history was whites-only. So you take this little bit of something, a few days out of the year and teach about some of the black people in history, some of the things important to the experience of African-Americans, and it's like opening a whole new world, a side of history that a lot of people - even black people - had never known about before. And they want to know more. So they go to the library, or the bookstore, and they find that there's a paucity of books on the subject. So maybe some of the more enterprising historians dig up information, write their own books. Build up the history.
In a lot of cases, things like black history month were a measure to literally halt the destruction of portions of our nation's history. Whether through malicious intent or simple neglect, entire movements that shaped the country, thinkers and statesmen who had moved whole populations, had vanished into thin air and had to be rediscovered. The narrative of history had to be repaired. The black migration from the south to the north and west, between 1914 and 1955, was a nation-changing movement. And it's only just now getting serious historical study and recognition; nearly sixty years after it settled.
Some of the posters on this thread have conjured the image of the poor little white kid who feels "left out" during black history month. ignoring for a moment that black history is completely relevant to whites in America, think of the little black kid in the same history class. Know what the history book looks like to him?
White people, white people, slavery, white people, white people, civil war, white people, white people, white people, white people, civil rights movement, white people, white people.
'Cause that's pretty much the narrative in a school textbook. So you take this kid, and you break up this narrative and show him, even for a short time, some of the magnificent things people like him have accomplished. Show him a portion of the history he's inheriting, that it's not all about Lincoln and Johnson. How do you think he'll react to that? Again, he wants to know more. He feels a little more empowered, a little more confident. Even the bad parts of the history are good for him, as it can help him understand the current state of things more ably.
Same thing with the Indian kid who learns only that his ancestors were mammoth-killing dinks who blundered into a continent, never used it, and then sat around for ten thousand years waiting for white people to come kill them and put the land to "better use" - again, the general narrative in a textbook. Teach him about the Tecumseh League. Teach him about Cahokia. Tell him the truth about Columbus, and the pilgrims. Show him that he comes from people who had stories, who had power and history and cultures and achievements. Do you think he'd perk up a bit?
These observances are as much about history being recovered and repaired as they are about empowering the people who's ancestry lies in that history. There is a massive amount of history that has been lost or fragmented, and there's always more being made that never makes it to the books because of, again, that same bias.A more complete and thorough picture of history is of benefit to everyone, and if the way to achieve that is to designate certain months or days as a time to look at that history, then I'm 100% for it.