Originally posted by notsofast
reply to post by Monts
oh, so once again, you're a non american who's advocating americans revolt against our government? oh, yeah, that's simple... lmao.
first of all, even though we may not like what our government does or the WAY it does things, i refer you to my previous post, it's still better than
everywhere else. if the united states was as bad as other countries make it out to be, we would have zero problem with illegal immigration. and for
the record, i'm not talking just about hispanics. i'm talking about people from haiti, vietnam, china, pretty much all over africa, and yes.. we
even have illegals from canada. so, since we're so horrible, why are they coming? that's right... because we still have a better system.
Canada is on the way to having more immigrants than home-grown citizens. And we too have illegals from your country- mostly people who have refused to
fight over-seas and have fled for fear of being thrown in Jail. If you were to trade geographic places, Canada would have just as much- if not more
illegal mexican/cuban immigrants as the US does.
You claim you have a better system... but is that why people come to the US? Or is it because they are escaping oppression and lack of
and going to the richest country in the world? And you can't possibly argue that America has the best system- that is laughable- what
about the Fed? The trillions upon trillions of dollars of debt that Americans will never be able to pay because they are stuck paying the rising
interest debt into the hands of private bankers?
I would argue that Canada has a much better economic system than the US- out of all the western countries, we were one of the least affected by the US
caused recession. We don't have a centralized private bank- We don't pay our taxes right into the pockets of private bankers.
But I guess that is off topic... so nevermind.
and here you are. now telling us we should revolt. why don't you revolt against your government? oh, wait, you can't because... well, you
can't.. see.. that's what i think is funny, people from other countries trying to goad us into starting an armed revolution, but here's the irony..
at least we CAN have an ARMED revolution.
I never once said to pick up arms and start a violent revolution- violent revolution leads to a violent government. The violence may be temporary, but
the evil it causes lasts forever.
Did India have a violent revolution when they ousted the British?
and here, even amid your arguement, you lend credence to what my self, slayer and messonthefed and others have said, i see you posing no
solutions. hold discussions? group meetings? well, that's cool.. but, who's bringing the cookies and kool aid?
I give you credence because they raise valid points that leads to a more stimulating and knowledgeable debate. It would be pretty boring if everyone
just gave thumbs or thumbs down... I like being challenged- did you actually think that I wasn't expecting to be flamed when I made this thread? Did
you think I was just in search of a bunch of Anti-Americans to come along to flag and star me and say "OMG your so right MONTSSSSS!!! YO SO" COOL 4
I made this thread to state a message, and have smart people respond to it and have a discussion about it, and in that matter it has been pretty
Do you have any better solutions?
I said revolution happens in phases- first phase is awareness; getting informed people off their computer chairs and spreading the word. Who else is
best to rely on for help and support than your neighbor?
Once people organize and learn the truth, then you can start talking about what to physically do about it.
we've spent so much time trying to make the word stable, and standing up for the little guy, and losing countless american lives in the
process, i might add.....now, the world has to pinpoint our problems as the epicenter of a global "doomsday"??
Sure America has done more than it's fair share to help solve problems... but is that any excuse to just take the attitude of apathy towards
American policy that is obviously corrupt beyond measure and is causing death and destruction at home and abroad?
you know what? how about a thank you? when was the last time another country stood up and said thank you for the lives we've lost? the fallen
friends, brothers, sisters and fathers? for the turmoil in OUR country for the price we've paid? for the cries and sobs of children who will never
have a bedtime story read to them?
yeah, the united stated of america has her problems... we've earned them.. but they are OUR problems.
by the way... you're welcome
Whoa whoa whoa buddy.
You think Canada sits around on our arses doing nothing and haven't lost people dear to us?
I'll tell you this- there is a military base about a 15 minute drive away from my town, and I KNOW people who have lost uncles, dads, brothers and
sons to war. Canada CREATED the UN peacekeepers.
We fought for over 3 years in both world wars before Americans came in to "save the day". You might have saved the day, and sacrificed alot to do
so, and for that I am thankful, but to claim America is the only country who has lost anything to war and the only one who stands up to oppression is
incredibly ignorant and borderline insulting.