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Muslim Brotherhood Moves To Form Egypt Unity Gov't Without Mubarak

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Boon, again...thank you!

So, where to start, you added a wealth of information.

Ok, the prisioners. Oh how strange that Obama asked for them to be released.

Then they were "transferred" to another prision, and then they "escaped".

What a coincidence huh?


Abdel-Monaem Abdel-Maqsoud, a lawyer representing the Muslim Brotherhood, said 34 members were arrested and taken to a prison north-west of Cairo ahead of last Friday's mass protests. All 34 got away last night, he said, including seven senior leaders

www.guardian.co.uk...

Check -

Ok next up, banned in Egypt, The Muslim Brotherhood is a know terrorist organization by the FBI of
the U.S. They are in bed with CAIR.

CAIR is a front group for Hamas.

In January 2009, the FBI's DC office instructed all field offices to cut ties with CAIR, as the ban extended into the Obama
mediamatters.org...

Check -

Soros, Tides Foundation, CAIR.

Check -

Thank you again, boondock-saint!




posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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Egypt’s military moved more aggressively Sunday to take control over parts of the capital, but the sixth day of unrest ended with increasing questions about how much longer President Hosni Mubarak could withstand calls for his resignation, including an electrifying demand from opposition leader Mohamed ElBaradei that he step down to “save the country.”

Just hours after fighter jets buzzed overhead and a column of tanks tried to enter Cairo’s central Tahrir Square, thousands of protesters defied a government-imposed curfew to gather in a peaceful nighttime demonstration that culminated in the dramatic appearance by ElBaradei.

The opposition leader, who earlier in the day won a political endorsement from Egypt’s banned Muslim Brotherhood, promised protesters through a megaphone that “change is coming in the next few days.”


www.latimes.com...



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:15 PM
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They are trying to defame the Muslim Brotherhood, because that is the only opposition group who was standing up to Mubarak. The Egyptian people respect and love the Muslim Brotherhood dearly, because it was their members who were tortured, abducted, sent to exile, murdered...

ElBaradie is a US puppet, he was the one who turned a blind eye to US violation of NPT. The US and Israel is trying to use the mole which is ElBaradie, to install a pro-US government again.

They are trying to defame the Muslim Brotherhood by deception and rumors, claiming that Muslim Brotherhood members had a meeting with Obama.

Any and every Muslim knows that Muslim Brotherhood is against US domination of the Middle East, and against US fascist puppets installed throughout Muslim land.

Nice try US, but the world has caught up to your tricks, we are not the American people, we won't get deceive over and over and over against, and the next election vote again expecting change.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships
Check -

Soros, Tides Foundation, CAIR.

Check -

Thank you again, boondock-saint!

ur welcome hon

just trying to share the facts
instead of the BS u hear on MSM.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by power4people
They are trying to defame the Muslim Brotherhood, because that is the only opposition group who was standing up to Mubarak. The Egyptian people respect and love the Muslim Brotherhood dearly, because it was their members who were tortured, abducted, sent to exile, murdered...


I am claiming MB are being USED by George Soros
to a final objective which is the destruction of Israel.
Hamas and Hezbollah was also used by Soros
but he found out, their small numbers were ineffective
so he changed his strategy upscale to include multiple
Arab Nations. Then the planning and the funding began
for the Islamic Revolution.

Muslim Brotherhood gets their funding from CAIR.
CAIR gets their funding from George Soros.

So how does the Muslim Brotherhood feel about
being used like a Babylonian whore for
somebody else's agenda ???



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
It affects no one else.




Wow-really? With all due respect I don't think you are fully grasping the situation--why are you bringing Israel and the "western world" into this? The people are are sick of no jobs, no money, and sick of a police state-and if the Muslim Brotherhood does gain some form of power from this mess-YES it will affect everyone else....



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by power4people
The Egyptian people respect and love the Muslim Brotherhood dearly



Do you have some evidence to back up that statement or is that just your personal view?



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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For those who thought the Egyptian revolution is about 'religion', it will do well to study into the origins of how it all started. Revolutons may be planned, but spontaneous uprisings aren't. The spark happened when the Egyptians realized the economic woes hitting them in their face.

They are seeking for resolution and secular salvation. They are not carrying placards of Islamic 'death to infidels'. They are not chanting 'death to USA'. as muchas the MSM, TPTB and the disinfo agents here would love to see them do it, and having none such evidences, had resorting to using the minority muslim brotherhood as a tool to push their agenda of an 'Islamic/muslim' takeover in order to bring fear to humanity's heart.

Egyptians will do it alone if they have to, with or without the world's encouragement. They are courageously standing up to the greed and power holding animals which are entrenched worldwide. If the rest of the world prefer to remain slaves, that is their wish and right. But Egyptians say NO more to slavery today!



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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I would agree with nearly all of your comments, think about this.

The Muslim Brotherhood is 1 out of 10 opposition forces at work.

Why then do they think they, being banned in Egypt have a voice for the people?

I have read many reports, Egypt is not crying out for Islam.

Yet that is all that the MB is about, radical Islam. Jihad.

Power to the people


No power to The Brotherhood


edit on 30-1-2011 by burntheships because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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I'm a non-interventionalist. What the people in Egypt and the rest of the Middle East decide for themselves as far as who they want to govern them affects no one other than the people in the Middle East. The western world shout stay the hell out of influencing their politics and politicians. The Muslim Brotherhood is a minor player (though it does seem their very name alone is scaring the poop out of some), and the people have free will and will deal with it as they see best. Up to them to work out.
edit on 1/31/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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Welcome to ATS -

Since this is your very first post, grace to you.

I would like to address a few of your concerns.


Originally posted by power4people
 


They are trying to defame the Muslim Brotherhood, because that is the only opposition group who was standing up to Mubarak. The Egyptian people respect and love the Muslim Brotherhood dearly, because it was their members who were tortured, abducted, sent to exile, murdered...


1. Who is "they"?

2. The Muslim Brothhood is only 1 out of 10 opposition forces at the moment.

3. The people in Egpt hardly know who ElBaradei is let alone "love the brotherhood".


Against the regime, the opposition groups - of which there are at leas ten - are just as hamstrung by their failure to produce a leader able to stand up and challenge the president. For lack of any representative figure, they picked the retired nuclear watchdog director Dr. Mohamed ElBaradi to speak for them in negotiations over the transfer of power. Hardly anyone in Egypt knows him: He is better known outside the country having spent many years abroad.
www.debka.com...

4. Terrorist groups like the MB known by the FBI dont have a martyr status.


They are trying to defame the Muslim Brotherhood by deception and rumors, claiming that Muslim Brotherhood members had a meeting with Obama.


The MB did meet with Obama.
'Obama met Muslim Brotherhood members in U.S.'

U.S. President Barack Obama met with members of Egypt's Islamist opposition movement, the Muslim Brotherhood, earlier this year, according to a report in Thursday editions of the Egyptian daily newspaper Almasry Alyoum.

The newspaper reported that Obama met the group's members, who reside in the U.S. and Europe, in Washington two months ago.


www.haaretz.com...


Any and every Muslim knows that Muslim Brotherhood is against US domination of the Middle East, and against US fascist puppets installed throughout Muslim land.


Then you support the MB choice of ElBaradei?



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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In spontaneous mass uprisings, it is vital that someone bravely stands up as a figurehead, so that when the revolution is won, at least someone knowledgeable is at the helm to bring order and perform the necessary elections and democratic reforms sorely lacking in Egypt today.

Be glad that at least the masses had a presence of mind to put someone secular as the head. An unknown, but at least someone who is known internationally and a noble peace prize winner to boot, an intellectual. It is on him that reforms and secular salvation lays now.

The other lesser known oppositions, including the Muslim Brotherhood, knows that they do not have the support of the majority whom are fighting against economic meltdown, not against the US or Israel, or for the mythical and despised Caliphate, and if they were to muscle their way in, it will only cause the revolution to falther, for the masses are not stupid, evident by their handing over of looters to the military.

Egypt is their home. They made a stand for their homeland, themselves and their loved ones. When salvation comes in the form of elections, then those party that offers the masses a better life this lifetime for themselves and their loved ones will be elected to lead the nation, regardless if it is a secular one or a theocratic one. It is their choice and freewill.

And the free world must respect that choice and learn to live and coexist with a new Egypt, instead of sowing discord and fear in humanity to protect their own wealth and power.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:33 AM
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My heart is for the people of Egypt.

Yet, leary of the MB. They have an agenda far beyond this uprising.


ElBaradei also criticised the American policy andasked the US to "stop the life support" to the dictator whileasking Mubarak to step down. He also said that the MuslimBrotherhood will have to be part of any future government andalso indicated that he will reach out to the Army.

A senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood earlier saidOpposition forces have agreed to support ElBaradei tonegotiate with the government, Al Arabiya TV reported.
news.oneindia.in...

To repeat what ElBaradei said "He also said that the MuslimBrotherhood will have to be part of any future government andalso indicated that he will reach out to the Army

That is not the voice of the people.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:47 AM
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The true voice of the Egyptians will come once elections are held, as they must in order to bring order to the nation whom only seeks for the common aspirations of life.


Vital now is to eraticate the obstacle to such aspirations and that is the removal of the dictator and his regime.

The MB as well as the different groups whom had brought the largely apathetic numbers to the streets, too will have a voice, as well as the military, whom so far had shown restraint in their support of the dictator. Regardless of differences in life, they too, are Egyptians.

In the days to come, rest assure that the TPTB and worldwide MSM will attempt to portray the figurehead of the revolution with all kinds of alleged offences - ladies man, gay, pedo, drug abuser, ganster, etc, etc in order to bring down the revolution out of fear that the contagion may spread to other regions, just as they had foolishly attempted to smear MB, which is only a minority group.

But the truth will prevail, and the truth is, Eqyptians are tired and sick of the status quo, after decades of brutalizing tyranny and unconcionable distribution of wealth.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Revolutons may be planned, but spontaneous uprisings aren't. The spark happened when the Egyptians realized the economic woes hitting them in their face.

and just how did that spark hit them in the face?

Soros funded cell phone text blitzkrieg with PRO Muslim Brotherhood sentiment.
Online bloggers from Muslim Brotherhood infuriating Egyptian masses with social media. (soros funded)
Anti-West and Anti-Mubarek TV news reports by Al Jazeera (also soros funded)

now we see why Mubarek arrested Muslim Brotherhood
shut off cell phone and internet
and shut down Al Jazeera. They were all working in tandem.

and all funded by Soros

are we connecting the dots yet ??



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
I'm a non-interventionalist. What the people in Egypt and the rest of the Middle East decide for themselves as far as who they want to govern them affects no one other than the people in the Middle East. The western world shout stay the hell out of influencing their politics and politicians.


i would agree with that some what.
i think it is the right of all Egyptians
to choose for themselves

however, on the other hand

I do NOT want them to be deceived in that choice.

And I'll bet less than 1% of Egyptians know that
their prized Muslim Brotherhood is getting funded
by a white guy atheist who worked for the Nazis in WW2
and later went on to work for the Rothschilds banking cartel.

And if they DID know this .....
would they make the same choice ???

i am all for them making their choices based on truth.
But I abhore them making that choice based on a covert lie.

And right now, they are basing that choice on a lie
with a further agenda they cannot see yet.

edit on 1/31/2011 by boondock-saint because: clarification



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by Skippy1138


Do you have some evidence to back up that statement or is that just your personal view?

Muslim BrotherHood is the most popular opposition group, even though they were banned, tortured, suppressed, arrested and killed.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:19 AM
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Hi.

Debka and Haartz. Both Israeli news source. Israel has much to gain from defaming Muslim Brotherhood by spreading rumors that they are connected to the US.

Egyptians hate US/Israel, and US/Israel puppets, if Zionist news papers can spread rumors that MB is a US puppet, then ElBarakie might come to power, and from his history we all know he is a US puppet.

MB was against the peace treaty with Israel, and still is. Infact it was them who assassinated Sadat, which then brought Mubarak, the then vice president to power. That was a failed revolution.

People around the world are hoping that this revolution is not a failure, and also hoping that Egypt becomes a Democracy where people choose their own leaders which represents the people, rather than US/Israel.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by power4people

Originally posted by Skippy1138


Do you have some evidence to back up that statement or is that just your personal view?

Muslim BrotherHood is the most popular opposition group, even though they were banned, tortured, suppressed, arrested and killed.


The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928 by Hassan al-Bana. It is primarily a Sunni organization. Their goal was and is a return to having the Quran and Sharia law.

It was outlawed in Egypt in 1981 after the assassination of Anwar Sadat. Mubarak took over as president at that time.

They are not popular.


the Brotherhood, which lost all 88 of its parliamentary seats in last November's election, appears to be trying to harness the political, economic and social unrest that sparked the riots to gather support for its Islamist agenda
asmarino.com...

This is reported in dozens of news sites...this has nothing to do with Israel.
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:29 AM
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You have a great propensity to link Soros to almost everything that is happening in the world, giving him far more credit than he truly deserves.

I will not deny his hand, but I will deny his abilities to such global extend. His pathetic billions is nothing compared to the Zionists trillions amassed over 2 centuries.

TV stations, muslims groups recieved funding from almost everyone, not just Soros alone. To claim he is the paymaster is an outright lie, if not an ignorant belief.

Egyptians taking to the streets are NOT the work of soros, nor his supposed minority minions. To achieve that level of disorder would require much much more of his pathetic funds, which is limited. The Egyptians are out on the streets due to economic woes.

Tracking back to its origins, the economic woes, ONCE AGAIN I RETERIATE, is NOT the work of your IDOL soros alone. It is a disaster created by the banking elites in collusion with hedge fund gamblers of which soros is one of those despicable idiots in the casino called wall street and funded with monopoly money printed freely by the US Feds.

Whomever the Egyptians votes for office, it will be the choice of themselves on their free will. No man is perfect or untainted, including you and me. It is what one does WHILE in office that one proves himself worthy of the masses trust. For that to happen, the voted must be given a chance. It is never too late to impeach the elected if he is a fraud.

US took only a few years to kick out Nixon, and Egyptians took 30 years. It's not the years, but justice served in the end.

But I know that what I had written will fall upon your deaf ears, for that clown soros is all that you can ever see in front of you, a big white dot, and missing out many other factors and dots in play you had failed to see.



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