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Muslim Brotherhood Moves To Form Egypt Unity Gov't Without Mubarak

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Oppostion Leader ElBaradei: Threat of Muslim Brotherhood Is A ‘Myth’ Lacking ‘One Iota Of Reality’


Thousands of Egyptians continue to take to the streets in protest of President Hosani Mubarak’s 30-year-long authoritarian regime. But while the Obama Administration inches towards public support for the Egyptian people, many Republican hardliners are throwing up roadblocks to U.S. endorsement of democratic reform. Their delusion-du-jour? The threat of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Those who subscribe to Rep. Thaddeus McCotter’s (R-MI) and Amb. John Bolten’s fear-mongering warn that the inevitable result of this pro-democracy movement will be the enfranchisement of the Muslim Brotherhood and other anti-American “jihadist nutjobs.”

Today on CNN’s Fareed Zakaria GPS, former International Atomic Energy Agency director, Egyptian activist, and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei blasted the delusion as a “myth” lacking “one iota of reality.” Intimately familiar with both Iranian and Egyptian politics, ElBaradei pointed out that the Muslim Brotherhood is not actually an extremist group and the idea that extremists would takeover the government is just a myth “perpetuated and sold” by the Mubarak regime:

ZAKARIA: One of the visions that haunts Americans is of the Iranian Revolution where a dictator was replaced by an even worse regime that was more anti-American and more threatening to the region. People worry about the Muslim Brotherhood. Are you confident that a post-Mubarak Egypt will not give rise to some kind of Islamic fundamentalist force that will undermine the democracy of Egypt?

ELBARADEI: I’m quite confident of that, Fareed. This is a myth that was sold by the Mabarak regime, that it’s either us — the ruthless dictators — or a Muslim al-Qaeda type. The Muslim Brotherhood has nothing to do with the Iranian movement, has nothing to do with extremism as we have seen it in Afghanistan and other places. The Muslim Brotherhood is a religiously conservative group. They are a minority in Egypt. They are not a majority of the Egyptian people, but they have a lot of credibility because of liberal parties have been a struggle for thirty years.
thinkprogress.org...#




posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas seek to increase role in Egypt : Stratfor


The Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas are collaborating and seeking to increase their roles in Egypt.

Global intelligence firm Stratfor reported this, citing unconfirmed sources.

The Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamic opposition party in Egypt, is picking up the pieces left by President Hosni Mubarak’s police force by forming committees to protect public property.

One side impact of the riots in Egypt is the loosening of rule of law as police forces retreat to certain areas of Egypt during certain times.

The Muslim Brotherhood is also supplying protesters with food and first aid.

www.ibtimes.com...



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Well I have heard that the the Egyptians do not have a high level of education hence this could make them vulnerable to the Moslem Brotherhood. I do not thinkthe centre left is particularly strong nor are the trade unionists.

Acording to wilipedia the moslem Brotherhood is a sunni organisation that was formed by a sufi school teacher. They are therefore non violent. which is encouraging. They were banned in Egypt. The point is that they have large resources and will therefore start political agitation or may even has started unofficially.

I wonder if they will be superceded by extremists? I am interested in the evolution of the post Shah Iran, I know the Shah was prowestern as was Mubarak,

Coaltion governments often break down.
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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Yes important as you have highlighted.

The trade unions were supportive in Tunisia, In a statement, the International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC), which includes the AFL-CIO, said it welcomes the fall of the dictatorship in Tunisia and fully supports UGTT ’s call for an end to corruption and nepotism and a genuine transition toward a true democracy.
www.ituc-csi.org...

Whether they are as successful in Egypt remains to be seen.

 


www.ynetnews.com...

www.redstate.com...



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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What is your analysis and perspective on this Brooking's article, though, as it relates to this discussion?

Here's another interesting aspect... Jordan's powerful Muslim opposition warns that Arabs will topple US-allied Mideast leaders.

This goes far beyond Egypt. And it appears they want what they've really always wanted. Us out of the ME.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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The Brooking write up is what I would consider propaganda.

Brookins is a NWO - or if you prefer a Globalist Think Tank.

They are a key compnent in setting Globlaist policy.

IMO, if and when the Muslin Brotherhood comes into play through
that will be the start of a new era in The Middle East Saga.

There can not be ture world peace, until that area is stabilized. From there, its Globaliisaiton all the way,
which is the real agneda here.

Yes, I think this is a key component, but only as it leads to the next step in the game.

TPTB have fomented the flames so to speak, and have allowed so much misery and chaos that the old foundation of that culture breaks way underfoot to the weight of the mayhem.

If you follow. This was posted in the thread however I think it worthy of another look.


Go to the George Soros/Zbigniew Brzezinski Crisis Groups Website and you will see that the Egyptian clashes have hit surprisingly close to home for them. That's because none other than their own Mohamed ElBaradei, sitting on their board of trustees, is the self-proclaimed leader of the unrest unfolding across the streets of Cairo. The International Crisis Group's recent condemnation of ElBaradei's detention and admission of his membership amongst "the Group" is accompanied by calls for the government to stop using violence against the protesters.
www.activistpost.com...



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Sorry I know this wasn't directed at me, but I have a thought
.

The Jordanian PM is appointed by the King, and the people are protesting for the removal of the monarchy.

Now, if they wanted to rid themselves of the royal family I would be a little more shaken, they however are protesting for the right to vote for this position, and others, more like the British system.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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You're correct. The Muslim Brotherhood is concerned with far more than Egypt. It appears pretty clear what their vision is. www.abovetopsecret.com...
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As for them being NWO? I don't see it. They seem to be fighting it as near as I can tell so far. I'd suggest a closer examination. I don't think the NWO is very happy about what's happening here.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Well Well This article may interest ATS Users here , forget the article look at the picture see an Israel flag?
www.time.com...




A boy holds a poster of Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak, in Cairo January 30, 2011



And yes in the poster on the forehead he has a star of David.


Look closely.


typical using children as political tools yet again by Islam.
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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Flag?

As for the picture of Mubarak with the star on his forehead, the message is pretty clear. They don't like his policies in regards to Israel. Many people in many other country's feel the same way.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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There are certain factions that would like to see a return to a caliphate, with Turkey at the helm. I have attached the map.




posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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bts

absolutely brilliant OP and chock full of facts.
S&F, would give ya 10 flags if I could.
Most folks are just completely oblivious
and wander around in their own lil world
and think these things happen by accident.

THEY DON'T !!!!

They are planned in advance, funding is sent
through the slimey networks from this foundation
to that foundation, all with earmarks to go to a
specific cause. That cause is to topple regimes.
Subjects are recruited to train on how to protest
to overthrow a regime. And this is done on a mass
scale by the hundreds. Their plane tickets, meals,
training and lodgings are paid for by the man or
organization who seeks to benefit from their actions.
It is a form of covert terrorism carried out by
locals who have a short term agenda which plays
into a long term agenda of the puppetmaster.
However in this case, there is a long term agenda
very few are seeing. The true objective here
is the destruction of Israel.

Israel is running scared

And since the final objective is the destruction
of Israel, then the funding for these organizations
like Code Pink, CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood and wikileaks comes
into play. And who funds ALL OF THEM ???
George Soros

George Soros' Tides Foundation funds CAIR, who in turn
funds Muslim Brotherhood through illegal and covert
money laundering. Training of these locals to overthrow
come directly from CIA Agents (current and former).

George Soros' Open Society Ins. funds Al Jazeera who
is directing the Revolution from the TV Screen by infuriating
Muslim sentiment.

And George Soros' Open Society funds Code Pink who is now
connected with the Iran regime.

You cannot deny the evidence found when you follow
the money. And the evidence is there.
You should read the thread in my signature upon
filling your curiosity with this thread.

Glen Beck, Wayne Madsen, Webster Tarpley and
Gerald Celente are right, George Soros is the
puppet master and in my opinion directly associated
with the Anti-Christ since Soros is a confessed
Atheist. It's all laid out in front of your eyes
if you care to really look and open your mind
to the evidence. Best wishes

boon



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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Lucidity,

Sorry about that post, I was traveling, on a small laptop.


Forgive me for my lack of clarity.

I am not saying that the Muslim Brotherhood is NWO, I am saying the man they are supporting
is in the hands of NWO "handlers", so to speak. He is on the board of a Soros/Brzezinski foundation.
Check the link that I provided in my post to you, links right to that foundation.

That is a potential 5 to 10 years down the road, or longer. Just depends.

I hope this helps.

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You're correct. The Muslim Brotherhood is concerned with far more than Egypt. It appears pretty clear what their vision is. www.abovetopsecret.com...


I dont mind this research filling the boards with many different aspects of the story,
I am happy that the news is spread.

People need to know the truth.

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Sure does. I understand now. I'm still studying the situation, as I don't believe we have enough to go on just yet.

In my view, there are two subfactions of the "NWO" with slightly different goals. There's the CFR-based scum and the neocon/Zionist based scum. And then, of course, the people get thrown into that mix and used and abused and don't seem to matter at all past the point of what they can "do" for someone. We're caught in the grinder of their wars. Not ours.

Although sometimes we have to knowingly pick the lesser of the evils to win a battle as it's a stepping stone to the ultimate goal. By the same token, fighting one while unknowingly, inadvertently, or blindly supporting the other is dangerous too.

All I'm saying is we need to proceed with caution and not assume one side is better or more right than the other.
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:55 PM
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I proceed with caution with the assesment that The Muslim Brotherhood will win out.
However, I dont need any more time to make a judgment about them, and the goals they have
whether or not they come into power in Egypt.

I urge you to look deep into the events of the last years, and much evidence
can be found just in the last few months.



Despite getting trounced in the most recent election, the Muslim Brotherhood’s Web geeks are transforming Egypt’s Islamist group from a shadowy organization with power bases in mosques and charities into a media-savvy machine.

www.thedailybeast.com...

They are what they are, and they were banned in Egypt for a reason.

And as to the NWO which again, is just a catch all for the Globalists- I dont need any more time to
see what their intent is either.

No thank you to both of them.

I hope the best for Egypt.


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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
reply to post by burntheships

And since the final objective is the destruction
of Israel, then the funding for these organizations
like Code Pink, CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood and wikileaks comes
into play. And who funds ALL OF THEM ???
George Soros

George Soros' Tides Foundation funds CAIR, who in turn
funds Muslim Brotherhood through illegal and covert
money laundering. Training of these locals to overthrow
come directly from CIA Agents (current and former).

George Soros' Open Society Ins. funds Al Jazeera who
is directing the Revolution from the TV Screen by infuriating
Muslim sentiment.

And George Soros' Open Society funds Code Pink who is now
connected with the Iran regime.



Boon, absolutely spot on of you to bring that up, AlJazeera is not reporting part of this
"revolution". Thats crucial for the rest of the worlds understanding of the events.

Heck, people will sit back and watch Faux news, and say "Oh this is what happened".


God help us all.

What does Egypt have to gain by turning to them?

Why not create a true democracy, or for that matter, a Republic?

What is not reported?! Some of which is below!


The exchange in the streets of Cairo between the students, both members of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, is a telling glimpse into the Arab world's largest Islamic organization as it joins other opposition groups seeking to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak. The Brotherhood is muting its religious message amid a popular revolt that is not driven by Islam or politics.

The organization's strategy became more apparent Sunday when it announced support for opposition leader and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mohamed ElBaradei as a transitional president if the Mubarak government is toppled. The move was recognition that ElBaradei, a secularist with Western democratic principles, is the most potent symbol for change in a nation desperate for fresh voices.

"The revolution does not belong to any one group," said Esam Shosha, a movement member. "We are one country. It's not just about the Brotherhood, at least not now; it's about all Egyptians."
www.latimes.com...




The Society of the Muslim Brothers (often simply الإخوان Al-Ikhwān, The Brotherhood or MB) is an Islamist transnational movement and the largest political opposition organization in many Arab states.[1] The group is the world's oldest and largest Islamic political group,[1] and the "world's most influential Islamist movement."[2] It was founded in 1928 in Egypt by the Islamic scholar and Sufi schoolteacher Hassan al-Banna.

The Brotherhood's stated goal is to instill the Qur'an and Sunnah as the "sole reference point for ... ordering the life of the Muslim family, individual, community ... and state".[3] Since its inception in 1928 the movement has officially opposed violent means to achieve its goals,[4][5] with some exceptions such as in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or to overthrow secular Ba'athist rule in Syria (see Hama massacre). This position has been questioned, particularly by the Egyptian government, which accused the group of a campaign of killings in Egypt after World War II.
en.wikipedia.org...


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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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I've thought and researched long and hard and deep, believe me. I've read and analyzed everything that's been posted here, and I am not convinced. I am also not alarmed by the word Muslim in their name, nor am I alarmed or manipulated by it or any other words, such as jihad or Islam. Religions, through history have been vulnerable to being co-opted and used as a tools by which to manipulate people into certain ways of thinking and fearing and even hating each other.

I have seen no evidence that this is a religious issue, and even if it were so, this is their region, these are their countries, and it is not ours to judge or interfere. It affects no one else. At the very worst and to its very core, it's political. They disagree with their government's policies regarding the western world, which in this sense of the term includes Israel. They disagree with the western world supporting governments that do not support, protect, or provide for the interests of the people. That being said, I think our discussion here is probably over.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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for those of you not following, here's a
simple possible scenario of upcoming
events.

Muslim Brotherhood puts El Baradei
in power in Egypt. (mind you he is already
on the board of a Soros company).
El Baradei prepares the Egyptians
for war. He also cuts off those gas lines
into Israel which provides 40% of Israel's
natural gas. He also shuts down the
Suez Canal to all ships to/from Israel.
This weakens Israel even more. He also
cuts off Israel's water supply which is piped
through the Sinai. Now El Baradei would be
in a perfect position to take away Israel's

Gas
Water
Imports

Israel's economy could not survive without
those items supplied by Egypt. Therefore
Israel is forced into war with Egypt and that
will unite the other Muslim nations against
Israel. Israel could not defend itself from
8-10 Islamic Nations without the use of
Nuclear Bombs. Israel then falls from a host
of nations. Guess who funded all of this ???
George Soros

just a possible scenario of what could happen
and who funded it and planned it.


The Investigative Project on Terrorism reported that on August 7, 2007, a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent testified at the Holy Land Foundation trial that CAIR was "listed as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood's Palestine Committee", that it had received money from the Foundation (conflicting with Nihad Awad's Congressional testimony), and that co-founders Awad and Omar Ahmad were "listed as individual members [of] the Brotherhood Palestine Committee in America."


en.wikipedia.org...


On October 22, 2007, the Holy Land Foundation trial ended in a mistrial.[54] CAIR stated that the reason for the mistrial, and no convictions on any of the charges, was that the charges were built on "fear, not facts."[58]

In 2008, the FBI discontinued its long-standing relationship with CAIR. Officials said the decision followed the conviction of the HLF directors for funneling millions of dollars to Hamas, revelations that Nihal Awad had participated in planning meetings with HLF, and CAIR's failure to provide details of its ties to Hamas.[59][60] During a 2008 retrial of the HLF case, FBI Special Agent Lara Burns labeled CAIR "a front group for Hamas."[61] In January 2009, the FBI's DC office instructed all field offices to cut ties with CAIR, as the ban extended into the Obama administration.

U.S. Congressmen Sue Myrick (R-NC), Trent Franks (R-AZ), John Shadegg (R-AZ), and Paul Broun (R-GA) wrote Attorney General Eric Holder on October 21, 2009, that they were very concerned about CAIR's relationships with terrorist groups, and requesting that the DOJ provide each Congressman a summary of DOJ's evidence and findings that led DOJ to name CAIR an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorism trial.[63][64] The four Congressmen also wrote House of Representatives Sergeant at Arms Wilson Livingood a letter the same day asking that he work with members of the House Judiciary, Homeland Security, and Intelligence Committees to determine if CAIR was successful in placing interns in the committees' offices, to review FBI and DOJ evidence regarding CAIR's Hamas ties, and to determine whether CAIR is a security threat.



Conservatives have attributed NPR's firing of Juan Williams to pressure from the Council on American-Islamic Relations to a grant from the Open Society Foundations, which George Soros founded.


mediamatters.org...


Just who wrote this Soros playbook and who is marshalling the Muslim mission? Wade Rathke…..CAIR….Muslim Brotherhood and it is submitted by financing of none other than George Soros.
“Tides has also given grant money to the Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Ostensibly a “Muslim civil rights group,” CAIR is in fact one of the leading anti-anti-terrorism organizations in the United States. CAIR regularly opposes American efforts to fight terrorism, claiming that Homeland Security measures are responsible for an undocumented surge in “hate crimes.” (Discover the Networks) The link here is comprehensive on the connections of Tides, CAIR and ANSWER, showing grant money via Soros. There is little difference in the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR. Egypt has made countless arrests in Cairo of Muslim Brotherhood members in recent days.


founderscode.com...

Know thy real enemy



George Soros speaking on his NWO



And let's not forget the Obama speech
this week where Obama asks Mubarek
to release those political prisoners.
He was actually referring to:

The Muslim Brotherhood Leadership

And you all think this is still just about
1 or 2 rogue corrupt dictators ???
Think again !!!!

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Ironic...

The Muslim Brotherhood murdered Mubarak's predecessor Egyptian President Anwar Sadat
and spawned Al Qaeda and Hamas,and now pretends to be non-violent bringing in "aid".

They are scouring their website to erase radical Islam and present a "fresh face".



“the Muslim Brotherhood is an international Islamic organization dedicated to the imposition of Sharia (strict Islamic law), by violent or peaceful means, throughout the world. It was founded in Egypt in 1928 as a reaction to the abolition of the caliphate by the secular Turks in 1924, in order to reassert the political and supremacist elements of Islam.”

Apparently, in the United States of America, Mohamed Akram wrote in, ‘An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America,’ on May 19, 1991, that the Muslim Brotherhood “must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within an ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”

Dallas

Its religious alright.

And still, people dont get it
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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Thanks for that, and yes. Very astute observation.
You can be sure that the child did not add those embellishments to the photo.

Thanks for you contribution!



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