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Muslim Brotherhood Moves To Form Egypt Unity Gov't Without Mubarak

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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by power4people
Hi.

Debka and Haartz. Both Israeli news source. Israel has much to gain from defaming Muslim Brotherhood by spreading rumors that they are connected to the US.

first of all I am not pushing an Israeli agenda.
I'm not Jewish btw. I am Evangelical Christian
and an American Citizen. And I do not agree
with about 90% of what the Zionist are doing.
All the covert killings, murders and assassinations
by them just turn my stomach.



Originally posted by power4people
People around the world are hoping that this revolution is not a failure, and also hoping that Egypt becomes a Democracy where people choose their own leaders which represents the people, rather than US/Israel.

I don't hope it's a failure. I wish them success.
I hope the Egyptians get the government they want.
However, I don't think the Muslim Brotherhood will
provide that savior.




posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:35 AM
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Are you suggesting Egypt was a Democracy? How can any opposition group win anything in Egypt, under a dictatorship which suppresses, arrests, silences, tortures and kills opposition groups. Most of the focus of the human rights violation was upon Muslim Brotherhood.

So yes, you are right, according to Mubarak's fascist regime, MB is very unpopular because MB didn't win anything on the extremely fair and Democratic elections.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:40 AM
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Bush wasn't good for US, but the world allowed you guys to vote for him in office twice, after two aggressive wars.

If Egyptians think MB is good for them, then by all means, I will respect that. If Israel attacks Egypt after MB comes to power, then by all means the Egyptians will fight against aggression, just like they fought against Mubarak.

We already saw what happened to Palestine, how Palestinians are being punished for Democratically choosing Hamas to govern them, but Palestinians are still fighting against that aggression, it might be futile (due to Western silence), but I'm sure in the long run, the resistance will poke enough holes in the Cancer to kill it.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:41 AM
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Fair enough. But as I mentioned in a previous post to burntheships, there are more subfactions and intricacies at work here than are obvious. The real good guys are hard to spot, sometimes we have to go with the lesser evil to win a battle, and sometimes we just have to go with our gut. The Egyptian people are intelligent enough to determine what's what and their own destiny.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
You have a great propensity to link Soros to almost everything that is happening in the world, giving him far more credit than he truly deserves.

I will not deny his hand, but I will deny his abilities to such global extend. His pathetic billions is nothing compared to the Zionists trillions amassed over 2 centuries.

not Soros himself
just his money.

he doesn't micromanage.
but he does have many people
in his foundations who do most of the
dirty work for him. He's just the .
of the snake.

And guess who does Soros banking in the US???
Goldman Sachs

another tid bit, just after these protests started
in multiple arab countries, guess who just got
a $12.6M bonus and a raise in salary to $2M ???

Goldman Sachs CEO Blankfein
www.bloomberg.com...



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by power4people
Bush wasn't good for US, but the world allowed you guys to vote for him in office twice, after two aggressive wars.

ummm
maybe u didn't see the news articles
where BOTH of those elections were
rigged. So don't blame a Georgie
presidency on us peons in the US.
He got the presidency illegally.
And I didn't vote for Georgie
btw.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by power4people
reply to post by burntheships
 


Are you suggesting Egypt was a Democracy? How can any opposition group win anything in Egypt, under a dictatorship which suppresses, arrests, silences, tortures and kills opposition groups. Most of the focus of the human rights violation was upon Muslim Brotherhood.


No I posted external content proving that the MB lost all the votes in the last "election".

And as long as we are talking about human rights violations, what would you imagine would happen to the already oppressed Coptic Christians in Egypt under a Mulim Brotherhood rule?


Amidst continued persecution and bloodshed of Coptic Christians in Egypt, Parliamentary Leader of Family First, Rev Dr Gordon Moyes, states "Enough is enough, I beg the Egyptian Government to end this suffering and oppression, and pray that our Christian people are protected and free to express their Christian belief without fear of further persecution and human rights violations."

Pope Benedict XVI has called on Egypt and other predominantly Muslim nations to do more to protect their Christian populations after a spate of recent violent attacks

au.christiantoday.com...



So yes, you are right, according to Mubarak's fascist regime, MB is very unpopular because MB didn't win anything on the extremely fair and Democratic elections.



Right, MB is not the peoples choice.

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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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Do you have a thread regarding your theory where all the facts are brought together with sources? If not could you create a post here, bringing all the facts together, connecting the dots, and with sources, to form your theory.

I would appreciate it, sometimes the most unbelievable is the truth. I want to know what drives you to your conclusion.

Guide us step by step, either in a new thread, or here, in a well organized post.

If you have the time ofcourse.

Thanks in advance.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:00 AM
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The prisons were filled with MB supporters and members. Most cases of torture revolved around MB members, MB members have also been executed, many, many times. While MB was banned, I didn't see Christianity being banned.

So yes, Christians were oppressed just like the rest of the Egyptian population, but the banned MB was the center focus of the human rights violations.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:01 AM
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anything to keep the propaganda alive! ,let me ask you ,what is a terrorist? is it someone who is defending their home land? but uses god as a source of empowerment ? have you been attacked by a terrorist ? no no you have not and ill tell you why ,because and man who is true to god ,love and peace is no terrorist my good man , bah i can go on and on ,but from the mouth of a Muslim ,ill tell you that most of thees protesters are normal people ,its like calling the Iraqi man an extremist because he is defending his home land ,and fighting for the life of his child that was striped of life , its all one big mess ,be wise in your steps , open your mind , Insha Allah (god willing) you will have an open mind my good man



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by power4people
Do you have a thread regarding your theory where all the facts are brought together with sources? If not could you create a post here, bringing all the facts together, connecting the dots, and with sources, to form your theory.
I would appreciate it, sometimes the most unbelievable is the truth. I want to know what drives you to your conclusion.
Guide us step by step, either in a new thread, or here, in a well organized post.
If you have the time ofcourse.
Thanks in advance.

it is weird you ask for this
cuz one is in the works as we type.
I am working with ATS user Resentedhalo08
on a thread which should appear tomorrow
on ATS which has the same things you
are asking for. Stop by tomorrow and
pick it up


However, if u want to take the time
to do a lil light reading before that is
posted tomorrow, then read the thread
that is linked in my signature.
there is a lot of info there connecting
one of Soros other tools called
wikileaks. best wishes



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:03 AM
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Since when did the Brotherhood represent all Egyptians?

Absolute bull. That country's future is bleak.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by Nephi1337
anything to keep the propaganda alive! ,let me ask you ,what is a terrorist? is it someone who is defending their home land? but uses god as a source of empowerment ? have you been attacked by a terrorist ? no no you have not and ill tell you why ,because and man who is true to god ,love and peace is no terrorist my good man , bah i can go on and on ,but from the mouth of a Muslim ,ill tell you that most of thees protesters are normal people ,its like calling the Iraqi man an extremist because he is defending his home land ,and fighting for the life of his child that was striped of life , its all one big mess ,be wise in your steps , open your mind , Insha Allah (god willing) you will have an open mind my good man

and you get a star my man

i agree with ya. The avg normal protester
are just normal folks wanting something better
than what they have. But they are being led,
infuriated, and mobilized by an entity who has
other motives.

basically, the avg protester is being used.
I have stated this in prior posts



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by Nephi1337
anything to keep the propaganda alive! ,let me ask you ,what is a terrorist? is it someone who is defending their home land? but uses god as a source of empowerment ? have you been attacked by a terrorist ? no no you have not and ill tell you why ,because and man who is true to god ,love and peace is no terrorist my good man , bah i can go on and on ,but from the mouth of a Muslim ,ill tell you that most of thees protesters are normal people ,its like calling the Iraqi man an extremist because he is defending his home land ,and fighting for the life of his child that was striped of life , its all one big mess ,be wise in your steps , open your mind , Insha Allah (god willing) you will have an open mind my good man


Are you sure? Look at some statistics about egyptian muslims:


82 % favor stoning people who commit adultery
84 % favor death penalty for those who leave the muslim religion
77 % favor whippings / cutting of hands for theft and robbery
20 % say that suicide bombings are often/sometimes justified
54 % favor gender segregation in workplace
59 % of those that see struggle between modernizers and fundamentalists identify themselves with fundamentalists

pewglobal.org...
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:39 AM
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Ding ding ding, and we have a winner, another muslim country behing swept by the islamic revolution bug lol, not too good for the rest of the non muslim world.

Things are really pointing towards a bigger separation of the west and the muslim world, Mubarak was eating straight out of the USA hands, he was the reason Egypt is not an Islamic republic, not gonna take too long now.

Just my 2 cents



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 03:00 AM
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Ooooh, wow wee.. the "Muslim Brotherhood" sure sounds scary, militant.... very boogie-man.

I have no personal knowledge of what these people are about, seems they're akin to a political party.. if the Egyptian people accept these folks in some kinda non BS process, fine with me. I don't live there. I relate more to the average dude in the street than I do to Egypt's elite.. traitors who kissed foreigner ass in the process of selling out their own people for financial aid bribes.

I hope the Egyptian people get everything they want.. and flip the finger at anyone 1000s of miles away who doesn't like it.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 04:56 AM
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I have to say everyone who has connected the dots regarding George Soros and his progressive organizations along with how they related to the unrest in Egypt seems very plausible? I am beginning to see that there is more than meets the eye by all of this. All the civil unrest plaguing the Middle East seemed to happen like a flash flood? There is something very sneaky going on behind the scenes, and once again it seems the people are being manipulated for the whims of the power brokers and elites?

Burntheships, and everyone else, thanks for backing up your views with evidence. It seems the Soros left-wing, progressive, socialist cabal reaches far and wide, and as multinational as his business? Things are happening so fast, and now we have a group showing its ugly . who has a horrendous track record appearing out of the shadows over night to offer stability and closure to this affair?

When the protests began I thought they were a result to the poor economic situation, human rights violations, oppression, and tyranny? Perhaps, that was the crust of it at the very onset? However, I always knew that the extremist organizations would use the chaos as doorway to power. Say all the right things, put on a happy face, and show solidarity with the people; regardless of their past indiscretions or crimes.

In the case of Egypt, it is the Muslim Brotherhood who are polishing their image with the help of IAEA inspector Mohammed El-Baradei. I have been mulling over in my . since it all began who will take over after Muburak, and I hear nothing of elections, no caretaker government, no provisional government, or any smooth transition for that matter? It seems Egypt is being handed over to the dogs? Furthermore, all I see is people using the animosity of the locals to snag power. Back to Soros, since he is a business man, how will this situation be good for him if the Muslim Brotherhood gain a significant footing in whatever government takes over after Muburak? Again, well done everyone, and we have another intricate angle to mull over as Egypt burns.

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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:07 AM
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anyone seen this:


edit on 31-1-2011 by Dumbass because: zpeeling



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by Jakes51
Back to Soro's, since he is a business man, how will this situation be good for him?


1) Financially:
Put options on the price of oil to increase
He can fix oil contracts in Egypt to favor his own oil company in Brazil (Petroleo Brasileiro SA)
::: Obama has stock in this company too
Owning the Suez, he can let his ships go thru and stop Saudi ships. Saudis
could not compete in an oil price war.
He can also set the currency that oil is purchased in if he
corners the oil market and kicks the Saudis out.
He could crash Wall Street and the US Dollar.
Stock Market trades to his benefit (insider trading)

are just a few I can think of

2) Globally:
He is 1 nation closer to his NWO.
He could add the Egyptians to his Army to fight Israel. More Islamic nations to follow.

3) Mentally:
He just likes to destroy things. Why? Because he can.

Oops, I almost forgot. Soros' 700,000 shares of Monsanto
allows his stock to make more money if Monsanto is the
one he buys the food from to feed the Egyptians, known
as humanitarian aid. He'll make a killing on that one
as a capital gain on investment.
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:45 AM
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It looks like I should never have just gone with Wikipedia alone.



The MB is a hardcore terrorist organization that is extremely anti west. The webpage above has a strong line in holocaust denial also.

In the power vacuum soon to be known as Egypt the MB will seek to fill the gap with a readymade leadership and a ready made explanation for all of Egypts woes (blame Israel and the infidels). They keep a special brand of rhetoric for the USA. Which means that Britain is a close second or third.


www.memri.org...





"Resistance Is the Only Solution against the Zio-American Arrogance and Tyranny" "

Resistance is the only solution. The stage of indirect negotiations [between the Palestinians and Israel] ended without the Palestinians gaining anything, and without the Palestinian negotiators taking a lesson from it. And now the PA, which has resumed its talks with the Zionists, is about to gasp out its last breaths at the table of direct negotiations. [At the same time], on the anniversary of the second intifada, the Palestinians are preparing the third intifada, and we see this people, in the West Bank and Gaza, seething [in anger] against the Zionists and their supporters, like a cauldron [of boiling water].

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