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Afghan girl raped, killed by US troops

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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Well given thatthe average age of the vets was 19 I would cut them some slack. How many 19 year olds are mentally complete adults? They were mostly conscripts. Sadly all that you have written about deformed children etc has already happened. The government has treated most vets badly and I have sympathy for that.

I am beginning to wonder about a military cover up regarding the rape figures. for Afghanistan and Iraq.




posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 11:27 PM
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LOL its nice that your "reality" holds up a nice "come back". Still, yeah youre a troll, it is common knowledge that i do not feel like searching at the moment. Look it up yourself or provide me with a truly BS number. You like the attention I understand but after my 2nd rejection you insist and all I want is for everyone to see youre a troll. MWA name calling is so kool lol. Now with my job done I bid you adieu and remind you that the game on ATS is real simple; and you played yourself-checkmate-



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 12:29 AM
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You think I'M dispensable?

I've always known that. I'm dispensable, and you're dispensable. You act like you're going to get out of this thing alive! You're not.

In the Army I was a triple volunteer, and you have no damned idea of what that is!

Phantom enemy?

I never saw any phantom enemy. My personal enemy had bone, blood, and guts - I know - because I saw the bone, blood, and guts. No phantoms there!

And about that enemy identification. I guess I was fair at it.

How about you?



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 12:29 AM
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Whoa! Double Post!



edit on 16-1-2011 by FarArcher because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by TKDRL
If we weren't there, there would be no rebels blowing stuff up etc trying to kill us and eject us from the country.


So, insurgents blowing up a marketplace filled with women and children is "striking a blow against the Western invader"? How is that? How is killing your own people going to force Coalition Forces out of your country?


The infamous always tear jerking women & children marketplace massacre... again.

Tell me..why would Iraqis violently resist an occupier drastically different than Americans?.. what weird unique bizarre human trait do Iraqis posses that motivates them to blow up fellow Iraqis?.. do they think summarily killing fellow Iraqis will some how motivate federal reserve forces to leave?.. no wait, it'll make them popular!.. who wouldn't join up and piss off people to make them support you.

Would you target innocent Americans?.. to send occupying Chinese troops a message?.. lol

THINK ABOUT IT.. if US soil was attacked and we faced a common threat, how fast would we all forget who is a republican, democrat, jew, hindu, voodoo, stoner, slut.. to rally as Americans against on "our" foe, eh?..

They say 9/11 was a shock to Americans conscious. So, uh.. what was shock & awe to Iraqis and or muslims?, oh wait, a bushbama spokesmen says "shock & awe" munitions that decimated the nation were modified to sound like freedom.

Those who crow about .presstv.ir having no credibility and belching out slanted propaganda, are indeed correct. However, funny thing is, presstv.ir is only mirroring absurd MSM tools like fox.. lol.. its hilarious. Presstv.ir pukes out # the usa, fox chants "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran..".. just like fox would likely skip a story like this as long as possible, while presstv.ir would report it as soon as possible.

Did us troops did this?.. we will never know for sure, most media is FOS and the govt is definitely FOS... 6 years from now some FOIA memo will explain it all... until then, it's all, ok.. mostly or 90%.. a war of propaganda.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 06:50 AM
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Is it me or am has this thread been entirely derailed. We have pages and pages of posts discussing all manner of things except the OP. I am beginning to believe that there are disinformation agents here.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by fonenyc
LOL its nice that your "reality" holds up a nice "come back". Still, yeah youre a troll, it is common knowledge that i do not feel like searching at the moment.


Because you know you're wrong. Just admit it; be a man.


Originally posted by fonenyc
Look it up yourself or provide me with a truly BS number.


You're the one being asked for a source, not me.


Originally posted by fonenyc
You like the attention I understand but after my 2nd rejection you insist and all I want is for everyone to see youre a troll.


Everyone is seeing you're making BS claims and can't provide a single source to back it up.


Originally posted by fonenyc
MWA name calling is so kool lol. Now with my job done I bid you adieu and remind you that the game on ATS is real simple; and you played yourself-checkmate-


Well, there's only one person around here "playing with himself" and that ain't me, Ace.

So, got those sources yet?



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by GovtFlu
They say 9/11 was a shock to Americans conscious. So, uh.. what was shock & awe to Iraqis and or muslims?, oh wait, a bushbama spokesmen says "shock & awe" munitions that decimated the nation were modified to sound like freedom.



As always someone smears history. After 9/11 the US/NATO went into Afghanistan and Iraq was A whole other beast. But nice try....


Those who crow about .presstv.ir having no credibility and belching out slanted propaganda, are indeed correct.


Well at least you have that right.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by MegaCurious


I didn't see this posted on ATS and didn't see anything on any mainstream news websites, so I thought I would post it here and see what ATS members have to say about it.
I figure there will not be any consequences for the soldier folks and that no mainstream news networks will pick up the story, but what do YOU think?

www.presstv.ir
(visit the link for the full news article)

We have certainly heard nothing about it here (New Zealand.)
But that doesn't surprise me - there's nothing in our mainstream news that ever makes the US military look like anything but saints.
Vicky



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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As always someone smears history. After 9/11 the US/NATO went into Afghanistan and Iraq was A whole other beast. But nice try....


In essence Bush's excuse to invade Iraq was in no small part due to 9/11..
Bush accused Saddam of supporting Al Quida in Afghanistan and allowing some into Iraq..



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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BackinBlack, he's already said he thinks the attack on Iraq was something that shouldn't have been done at that time for that reason.

I agree that this wasn't the time, the reason, or the manner of attack.

We all agree on this.

Bush ****ed up, and what he didn't **** up, our Generals completely ****ed up.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by youdidntseeme
I am with the rest of the members here, I find the source to be pretty dubious, as Slayer said, at best, in fact I dont even know if I give it that much credit. Corroboration of the story by a secondary or tertiary source might make me change my mind however.

And if this story is true ( I hope not), then those involved should be prosecuted swiftly and justly.

Wow, you people amaze me! If it comes from a non-American source it's got to be a lie, right? Incredible! Y'all may believe that the USA is the world, guess what, you're very wrong!
As for the Iranian reporter writing in English, y'all assume that makes his/her article 'propaganda'. Did it occur to you that the article was in English for your convenience? It's well-known that Americans are the least likely people in the world to learn any language other than their own, and if any non-English speaking news outlet wants to be read by anyone outside their own country or Europe, they write in English.
There's a reason why stories from the Middle East (other than Israel of course!) generally come through Le Monde or Der Spiegel.
Europeans at least realise that there is a rest of the world! Europeans at least realise that there is a rest of the world!
Vicky



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 11:30 PM
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Bush ****ed up, and what he didn't **** up, our Generals completely ****ed up.


I disagree..I think they did and still have exactly what they planned..
Extended Wars to feed the military complex..

I can't believe they are THAT stupid, the way they played these wars that is...



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by fonenyc
This just in btw America, and friends, have killed 6 million plus in the middle east since the beginning of this new post 911 occupation; more than half are innocent women and children not to mention men.


Oh, really? 6 million men, women and children have been killed by US and Allied Forces since 11 Sep 2001?

Interesting. And you believe this figure to be correct?

Well, I don't know if s/he does (all I presume that they do, or they would not have given it), but I also do! Y'all gotta realise your troops are not saints - they're not even good..
Vicky



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by Stewie
No one knows how many people have been killed. Who would know? What are we measuring anyway, when we talk about how many people we, the US and allies, are killing? Are we totally insane?
Life means nothing, if 100,000 lives are nothing, but 6 million suddenly becomes significant.
Children are suffering because of the western corporatism that spreads death and destruction in its wake. Somehow we pretend it is okay to destroy people because we are convinced that they are "bad". What does that make us? Who have we saved?
Maybe it is not 6 million. Maybe it is far more than that. What damn difference does it make? Hold a baby in your hands and you will care about ONE goddam child, if nothing else.


Without getting this thread too far off track, how about considering this? How many innocent women and children have been killed by insurgents? How many of these innocents have been blown up by car bombs on the way to the market?

Posters on ATS get all fired up about civilian deaths (and they should), but only when it comes to anyone killed by the US.

Civilians that are murdered by insurgents don't get a passing thought on ATS. Unless it's to somehow turn the blame around to the US.

You stupids invented the term "insurgent" so you can feel good about killing people. Think of it this way - you invaded their country. Imagine if you can (and many of you seem only too willing to imagine people you put in your hate groups attacking you, and you orgasm everywhere at the idea of exercising your "second amendment rights"...)
Imagine your country being invaded and imagine that the invading forces report any of you who fight back as "insurgents"... Wouldn't you try to kill invaders and end the occupation? (Well probably not you personally Jericho - you call yourself a porn star, and AFAIK they don't fight... :lol

However, how'd y'all like to be reported in their news as "insurgents"?
Anyone dim enough to think that the present governments of Iraq and Afghanistan are anything other than American puppets, need some serious education.
Vicky



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 12:20 AM
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I have never heard of servicewomen committing rape....

as for many of you; you are off track from the original thread.

Rape is a serious crime no matter who committed it or where they committed it. In this case, it's Afghanistan and most of the girls raped by servicemen are not only under age but none of them should had been raped in the first place.

Just because these girls are of a different culture and people?

The USA had no right to invade another nation - period! It's no wonder so many of these people are lining up to join the terrorist groups. This will eventually come back and haunt the Americans all because of afew rotten apples. Any soldier that commits rape should be shot on site.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 04:33 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by GovtFlu
They say 9/11 was a shock to Americans conscious. So, uh.. what was shock & awe to Iraqis and or muslims?, oh wait, a bushbama spokesmen says "shock & awe" munitions that decimated the nation were modified to sound like freedom.



As always someone smears history. After 9/11 the US/NATO went into Afghanistan and Iraq was A whole other beast. But nice try....


Ummmm... The very first reasoning by the American government to invade Iraq was that Saddam apparently supported 9/11. Then after that hyped-up frenzy, the Bush regime claimed that Saddam was planning to attack the US with WMD (of course lacking details of the non-existant WMD). Then it turned into a mission of "liberating" the Iraqis of the oh so terrible Saddam. Then it was a mission to combat insurgents in Iraq, even though the US was inciting the civil war there (a good example is via supporting the Wolf Brigade). Then it turned into a "reconstruction" mission, one lead by American corporations protected by PMCs.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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I have never heard of servicewomen committing rape


I'll refer you to the Abu Gharaib scandal...and the famous case of SPC Lynndie England. See the image below:



Now, it was not documented that she forced any of the prisoners at the Abu Gharaib facility to sexually penetrate her, it is clear in the indictments and in the media that she forced them to masturbate, used very coercive means to cause them to engage in homosexual acts, and that she was involved in videotaping the odd sexual activities.

Women rape. Period. They rape each other, and they rape males as well. Is the incidence of known sexual assault among females as high as that among men? Of course not, for a variety of reasons I will not go into here. It very definitely does occur.




posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by MaOtCtKiIcNuGsBIRD
Yea complete bs. There are pleanty of media outlets in the US that would jump all over this story, not to mention other large media groups outside the US.


What makes you thing they would be allowed to report it? If the big boss says "no", the editors listen.

If, and I say if this is true, I wonder if she was targetted because of her father? Maybe he wasn't pleasing the US? Something to look into.

It's quite possible that this could be true. This stuff happens all the time in war zones, and soldiers from all countries do it.
edit on 17/1/11 by NuclearPaul because: typo




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