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Afghan girl raped, killed by US troops

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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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There is a difference between propaganda and reporting actual incidents.

A majority of American soldiers are respectable towards the Muslim women in Iraq and Afghanistan but like every organisation, there are always going to be a small number of rotten apples among the flock.

Personally, it is of my opinion the USA has no right to invade another country exception to the Govt of that nation that requests it.

If a soldier commits these henous crimes then he should prepare to be confronted by a firing squad.

It's like another member says, alot of these women don't come forward for fear of retribution by her family and American soldiers ARE taking advantage of it.

I hate to admit this but American soldiers are probably the worst desciplined of all Western nations.




posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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I was merely referring to the agency that was reporting the news. They are well known for putting out propaganda and are not a trustworthy source of news. I do agree that if anyone was rapeing anyone US soldier or not they need to be dealt with.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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The source is questionable but even if it did happen, not surprising. The US troops have earned a rep.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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A majority of the media is untrustworthy....jeez, I get more information here than I do through media in Australia !



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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Agreed . I too get a wealth of information here.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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US Troops have earned a rep?
Here is some info for you to look at.


Congo Army
Brittish Army
French Army
Russi an Army
Guinea Army

And that was a quick jaunt to google search engine. Im sure there are tons more that could be listed and probably newer too.

My reason for this is to get you USA haters to understand that other countries are just as bad if not worse in the past and the present. What has happened to these people is terrible and everyone involved should pay for their crimes in some way shape or form.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by youdidntseeme

Originally posted by Vicky32
Wow, you people amaze me! If it comes from a non-American source it's got to be a lie, right? Incredible! Y'all may believe that the USA is the world, guess what, you're very wrong!
As for the Iranian reporter writing in English, y'all assume that makes his/her article 'propaganda'. Did it occur to you that the article was in English for your convenience? It's well-known that Americans are the least likely people in the world to learn any language other than their own, and if any non-English speaking news outlet wants to be read by anyone outside their own country or Europe, they write in English.
There's a reason why stories from the Middle East (other than Israel of course!) generally come through Le Monde or Der Spiegel.
Europeans at least realise that there is a rest of the world! Europeans at least realise that there is a rest of the world!
Vicky


I really havent seen anyone here say that the story is false because its not an American Source.
I believe that most people questioned the source because of its known ties to propaganda, and the fact that it is the state news outlet of Iran.

There are plenty of sources in the American media bubble that would fall into the same category.
And what exactly does Israel have to do with this at all? Was that some sort of off-topic job at Israel and Judaism?

My point about Israel was simply that news from Israel always gets through the American gatekeepers to you, and to us here.
From other middle eastern countries, not so much...
Vicky



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by FarArcher
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So Daddy told you that UK soldiers raped German girls huh? And that has WHAT to do with this topic? Did Daddy also tell you what German soldiers did to French, Polish, Russian and especially Jewish women?

Oh, about those porn stars not being fighters? Milady, you're once again just as wrong as you can be.

I bet there is only myself and the man from Pineland who even knows where that is, what it means, or that Pineland is a land filled with the most destructive men on the planet.

I know.

I used to reside in Pineland.

Well, Far Archer, I have to point out that you've got me mixed up with another poster. My Daddy didn't tell me any such thing - and yes, when I was a teenager, I did ask.
As for the remarks about porn stars and Pineland, all I can say is : ?????????????????????????
BTW, what makes you think 'destructive' is a good thing? I am reminded of the doofus obsessing about the idea that women can and do commit rape - I wonder what his issue is - guilt maybe? Only a man could possibly think that being 'destructive' is something to be proud of.
In answer to that particular doofus btw, women don't commit rape. Claiming they do is an absurdity. Women have been charged with abetting rape committed by their husbands/boyfriends and even captors, but that is not the same thing.
Vicky



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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This really get's up my goat when another culture claims white man or Caucasians has no culture and morals. Please explain to me exactly what culture is??????????? I'm expecting you to answer this. Because you made a pretty generalized sterotype comment like yours I'm also expecting you to at least acknowledge which "culture" you belong to.

A majority of Caucasians have morals and ethics, in fact, Caucasians are probably the most tolerant and charitable people on earth!!! Is that why you are hailing from NYC?



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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There is a difference between saying women are capable of rape and actually committing rape. I dont doubt women have raped but the number is sooooooooooooooooooo tiny.

Women raping children? Again, the number is hardly worth a mention when we know males OWN the statistics a million fold.

Now don't try and turn this around to suit your own purposes!!!

Soldiers RAPING Iraqi and Afghani girls.....I'm yet to hear of one single case where a female soldier committed rape upon Iraqi and Afghani girls - or boys/men for that matter.

Now grow up and stick to the original thread or find another.


Did you even take the time to read the citation i provided?
The facts are the facts. Women rape in significant numbers, and their victims are younger and weaker than they are.


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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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In my hey day in NZ we described them as old fuddy duddies



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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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In answer to that particular doofus btw, women don't commit rape. Claiming they do is an absurdity. Women have been charged with abetting rape committed by their husbands/boyfriends and even captors, but that is not the same thing.


Doofus here:

The US Federal Bureau Of Investigation and The DOJ would beg to differ.

Women and Rape - Rates, Incidence and Discussion

Women are certainly capable of rape and other sexual offenses, and their victims are typically younger than they are.


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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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Wrong! You almost sound like you want to blame everything on women.

I never claimed women have never committed rape but hey the statistics speaks for themselves if you want to compare the % of women to the % of men who commits these henous crimes......go ahead.

Now the original thread......are the Iraqi and Afghani women at fault when they are raped by US soldiers or is it that the American forces are simply put - not a well desciplined mob unlike the Australian & New Zealand military who ARE not only better trained and the most desciplined military in the western world. And I certainly don't hear of the IDF running around raping Palestinian women either!



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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Gee sorry Vicki but I am a Kiwi who has lived in Australia for 27 years and I know exactly what I'm talking about....and have personally been thanked by many British and Kiwi girls touring over the ditch here.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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I just read that.......proves nothing

try again

come on, give us some real data but let's put in on another thread as this thread is about American soldiers raping Afghani girls.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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Wrong! You almost sound like you want to blame everything on women.

I never claimed women have never committed rape but hey the statistics speaks for themselves if you want to compare the % of women to the % of men who commits these henous crimes......go ahead.


Not wrong...not at all.

Someone a few pages back (maybe it was you, i dont know) made the odd assertion that women NEVER raped.

This is of course a patently false statement.

NIJ, DOJ and FBI statistics indicate the opposite...women rape and commit sexual crimes in significant numbers, and the rather robust study I have linked to at least twice clearly describes the phenomenon.




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