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Obama's Birth certificate: Hawaii Governor Abercrombie's Birther mission

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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Honor93
that they've already spent multi-millions


why do birthers keep posting that lie? care to show where Obama has spent millions? Especially when his lawyer works pro bono for Obama!


edit on 28/12/10 by dereks because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by Honor93
that they've already spent multi-millions


why do birthers keep posting that lie? care to show where Obama has spent millions? Especially when his lawyer works pro bono for Obama!


edit on 28/12/10 by dereks because: (no reason given)


why do you call me names ... ie: birther ... when you have no knowledge of such a thing?

pssssst: the Secret Service doesn't work pro bono, or the State Department or Homeland Security for that matter ... just which group of Attorneys are you referencing? deny ignorance and engage in research ... you'll find plenty of answers.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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perhaps if obama had NOT refused to show his birth certificate when asked...then maybe there would nt have been all this hooha!



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


Maybe because "initiating a process to make policy changes that would allow Hawaii to release additional evidence"

Change policy to entertain a fringe group of doubters?


OP, please be informed before you make a post and continue to bash. Several months ago, the Governor of HI signed into law a bill that would allow a blanket "DENY" on anyone inquiring as to the birth cert, COLB, or what ever proof was being requested.

He isn't now changing policy "to entertain a fringe group of doubters" He is essentially back stepping the bill that he signed into law this summer.

So now the question is, "Why is he back stepping?"

I am also dismayed that you thanked a poster for being "respectful" while you, yourself are disrespectful to other posters you refer to as "Birthers" and further "wacky".

Frankly, I am not a Birther, nor am I wacky. This "president" has spent MILLIONS keeping information about his birth and his college transcripts out of public view. That is a fact.

So why would one spend millions hiding something as "insignificant" as proof of birth or college grades/education?

That is another question that you should be asking. If there is no foul, then why the cover up?

What is he hiding?



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by thecinic
Yes I want to see your COLB.


You want too much.
You are not entitled to see someone's COLB or birth certificate unless they WANT you to. It's a private document and property of the state in which a person was born. You have no right to it, just as you have no right to see the private documents of the president.

And to call the OP a liar??? Really, that's so lame.




"We the People" are entitled to know if a sitting president has in fact been vetted to be president.

So yes, WE DO HAVE A RIGHT to see proof that he is a legitimate President before he continues to turn this country into a socialistic train wreck and destroy the dollar, the greatest healthcare system in the world (albeit expensive), and the country that has saved 90% of the a s s e s of the people reading this thread.

What will YOU do without America? Celebrate?

If America falls, so does the rest of the planet.

So yes, the fact that Obama may not be legally president, based on LAWS that make America great, is troubling.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 04:31 PM
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this thread is full of so much fail

birthers give me a headache



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by phantomjack
"We the People" are entitled to know if a sitting president has in fact been vetted to be president.


Perhaps, but you don't have the right to see his birth certificate. And the Democratic National Committee head signed his Official Certification of Nomination, saying that he was Constitutionally eligible.

Cetrtification of Nomination

If Obama wasn't vetted, then NO president was vetted before him. I personally think there SHOULD be a procedure in place to check the eligibility of the pres, but we can't punish Obama if there isn't.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 04:46 PM
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The reason the republicans do not touch the subject on the birth certificate of Obama is because they don't want to be seen as whiner, loser and sour grape complainer. But that doesn't mean they are not clapping secretely on the issues of the birthers raise. They would rather watch and pick the booty than actively participating on the possibly a losing battle due to the political incorrectness.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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I tend to think he was born in the US, but he has such a questionable early history, and that he refuses to release his birth certificate, only plants some doubt in my mind. I can't understand what he's hiding? Also, with all the trillions of tax payers money at his disposal, if he was born in Kenya, I am sure he could get a fake US birth certificate created by the CIA or something.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
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That is ridiculous! You don't think that our Govt. looked into his citizenship? Stick with the shadow world of the web, seems the excitement of the "what if" is up your alley.


So, you just blindly trust that "our Govt. looked into his citizenship"?

Who's the ignorant one here?



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by phantomjack
"We the People" are entitled to know if a sitting president has in fact been vetted to be president.


Perhaps, but you don't have the right to see his birth certificate. And the Democratic National Committee head signed his Official Certification of Nomination, saying that he was Constitutionally eligible.

Cetrtification of Nomination

If Obama wasn't vetted, then NO president was vetted before him. I personally think there SHOULD be a procedure in place to check the eligibility of the pres, but we can't punish Obama if there isn't.


the DNC is no more credible than any other band of thieves.

And removing Obama from office for not being a US citizen is not punishing him. However, if he isn't a naturalized citizen, he SHOULD be held legally accountable for the fraud perpetrated on the People.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by SourGrapes

Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by JohhnyBGood
 


That is ridiculous! You don't think that our Govt. looked into his citizenship? Stick with the shadow world of the web, seems the excitement of the "what if" is up your alley.


So, you just blindly trust that "our Govt. looked into his citizenship"?

Who's the ignorant one here?


Mind if I ask just how many and which presidents you have personally vetted?
You have not been just trusting the government up until Obama have you?



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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That is great news! As soon as this issue is done, then we can move on to finally address the issue of Barrack Obama's hidden homosexuality - like his affair with Larry Sinclair and the witnessed drug use.

There are really so many "secretive issues" with this hand picked manchurian candidate, lets not just stop on the one issue involving the Birth Certificate, lets address them all!



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:47 PM
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Just going to ignore his reptilian herritage or the fact that he is the anti-christ though? Come on? If we are going to get to the bottom of this mystery, we must fully address all the amazing questions around the man. Personally, I am still waiting for proof he does not eat white children for breakfast. I have been asking for two years. TWO YEARS that question has just been lingering. Must be something too all this. Hey, when he provides proof that he is not secretly gay or did drugs in front of anyone, we can just deny that like we do with the birth certificates too, right? How is all that working out so far?



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:58 PM
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I'm not so much worried about the BC...I'm not even bothered about him possibly losing his citizenship going to Indonesia...if my parents took me to another country growing up I'd be pissed if someone tried to tell me I wasn't an American citizen.

What bothers me however, since he has sealed all of his records including his college records, just how did he pay for college and how did he get in? He loves to say he was on the Harvard law review and became the editor or whatever but we cannot see a tiny glimpse of his records...my best bet is that he applied to college as a foreign student and probably received federal aid or scholarships he didn't deserve.

Is that enough to boot him from office? Probably not...



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 06:02 PM
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Hey, let's not forget one very important thing,
He, or anyone else elected, is a public servant,
they work for us,
not the other way around.
The elected are not some special above having to answer class of people or employee.
Maybe if people so quick to also place themselves in the 'special' category were bright enough to realize who butters the bread and pays for these planned and premeditated fiascos they as well wouldnt be so quick to make fun of the rest of the group theyre apart of.
Maybe if people actually grew a set and took an active hand in their governance we wouldnt be paying attention to distractions such as this while our country slides off into a financial, unemployed, broken, at war,
flaming abyss.
Presidents and elected officials are temporary tools that ONCE answered to their electors,
but not anymore...............
long live the corporate state!
zeig heil!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 06:02 PM
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Mind if I ask what steps you have taken to get ahold of such records from Harvard? Mind if I ask what steps Obama has taken to prevent you from getting them?

I have to ask because you have no access to my college records and I do not have to do a damn thing. So I have to suspect that for some reason, his were made public, you tried to get them, then they were sealed? Seems like a lot of pointless steps so I look forward to clarification.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 06:02 PM
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*giant facepalm* Oh vey..Here we go again.. Howevermuch I understand the goodwill of the OP..Do.Not.Go.There. this whole "birther" rubbish is gonna be another endless "yes he is/no he isn't" thread....
The bottomline here is the underbelly hatred for someone that isn't exactly lily-white.

Doesn't it strike anyone as somewhat suspect that this whole "birther-fiasco" mainly stems from ultra-right-wingers below the Mason-Dixie???


*ugh* I . am .out. of. here.



edit on 12/28/2010 by diakrite because: blew fuse, removed pottymouthing



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by phantomjack
This "president" has spent MILLIONS keeping information about his birth and his college transcripts out of public view. That is a fact


No, it is not a fact but a birther lie that they make, but refuse to show any proof to back up!


So why would one spend millions hiding something as "insignificant" as proof of birth or college grades/education?


As Obama has not spent millions, why keep posting that lie?

Because the only thing birthers have is lies!




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