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Obama's Birth certificate: Hawaii Governor Abercrombie's Birther mission

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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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This thread isn't about his "alleged" homosexuality, or his "alleged" crack smoking. It amazes me that people are so gullible to believe something just because it is on YouTube.




posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by TexasChem
You can be born in a foreign country and obtain a Certification of live birth.The certification just basically says there is a birth certificate on record.There's a big difference between a certification and a certificate of birth.


You just made all that up. Is that how you win this argument? Making things up? Seriously, everything you just wrote is pure fiction. You imagined it, then wrote it, and ignorant people starred you for it. I cannot wait to see the sources you used to gain your "knowledge" because surely you learned what you learned from somewhere.


You guys dont even try anymore.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:10 PM
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Your mistaken - Larry Sinclair has hotel and limo receipts at the same hotel and limo service that Barrack Obama was in on the same night. Its not a Youtube issue - it is a dis-info issue, well at least in regards to your response. Just because people refuse to look at evidence doesn't mean it never happened.

Barrack Obama being in the CIA is definitely an issue and makes this a whole new ball game - doesn't it?

You want to disregard his homosexual status - fine!

Married, children - a marriage of convenience - much like Bill Clinton - we all remember his loyalty and Monica, and an impeachment hearing. Hiding a homosexual relationship and smoking crack really isn't a big deal! It's like a stain on a dress and a cigar - huh!

People really don't care about their Presidents relations these days

Address his past CIA status



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by TexasChem
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Who would spend 2 million dollars on attorneys anyways to keep information hidden from the public unless there was something they did not want the public to know?I sure as heck wouldn't!
It may or may not be birth origin related but we wont know unless the records are made public now will we?




Who did?
This looks a lot like something else you just made up.
Again, I eagerly await your sources.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by arizonascott
Barrack Obama being in the CIA is definitely an issue and makes this a whole new ball game - doesn't it?

Because it would completely nullify the notion that he could not obtain forgeries of any and every document anyone could ever dream of and thus this birther conspiracy would never have surfaced? I think what you are saying is that he is CIA. He could get a perfectly forged BC. That is why he WAS ABLE TO SHOW US ONE. And thus, the one online is actually what people need to deal with and get over. Or...the birther conspiracy this thread is actually about holds water.

One of them.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
reply to post by TexasChem
 


This thread isn't about his "alleged" homosexuality, or his "alleged" crack smoking. It amazes me that people are so gullible to believe something just because it is on YouTube.


I beg to differ sir. The thread is about defining character. Knowingly keeping information as a political candidate about yourself that could sway voters aye or nay would be deemed morally questionable. We know less about the life of this man than any other American President in history.That's a fact pardner!

On a side note your abusive ad hominem attack upon arizonascott was uncalled for and in my opinion clearly revealing towards your lack of debating skill.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:20 PM
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I agree... But, lack of something does not prove something.. PERIOD!



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by TexasChem
You can be born in a foreign country and obtain a Certification of live birth.The certification just basically says there is a birth certificate on record.There's a big difference between a certification and a certificate of birth.


You just made all that up. Is that how you win this argument? Making things up? Seriously, everything you just wrote is pure fiction. You imagined it, then wrote it, and ignorant people starred you for it. I cannot wait to see the sources you used to gain your "knowledge" because surely you learned what you learned from somewhere.


You guys dont even try anymore.


Actually my source is from the Hawaii state.gov website sugar britches!
The state of Hawaii actually changed the wording from Certification of birth to Certificate of birth per my own investigation into this subject over the course of a year.After reviewing this matter please come back and tell me who is making what up my dear.

hawaii.gov...

I took the liberty of posting the sentences you should look for on this government website for you darlin.

Who is Eligible to Apply for an Amended Certificate of Birth?

A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii.


How to Apply for an Amended Certificate of Birth

For a person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii:

An amended birth certificate will be prepared upon receipt of a certified copy of the adoption decree or the certificate of adoption, and payment of fees.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:31 PM
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So as I have clearly shown you can be born in another country and recieve a certificate of birth in the state of Hawaii. All one has to do is file the original. This is why the "birthers" want to see the original also called a long form. *TexasChem takes a deep-waisted bow*



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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The following is information was compiled from the official Federal Elections Commission website for disbursements from the Obama campaign to Robert Bauer's law firm of Perkins Coie, which represents Obama in various eligibility suits. The FEC links follow the entries.



2nd Quarter, 2010, FEC report for Obama for America
Perkins Coie: $248483.94

query.nictusa.com...



1st Quarter, 2010

Perkins Coie: $261,206.69

query.nictusa.com...



October 2009 quarterly:
Perkins Coie: $314,018.06
query.nictusa.com...



July 2009 quarterly:
Perkins Coie: $270,754.18
query.nictusa.com...



April quarterly
Perkins Coie: $688,316.42
query.nictusa.com...

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Year-End 2008
Perkins Coie: $173,052.52
query.nictusa.com...



Amended post-general election:
Perkins Coie: $205,323.00
query.nictusa.com...



That adds up to: $2,161,155.11


Robert Bauer's law firm of Perkins Coie has blocked all information from being realest. Bauer has done his best to prevent the American public from seeing a wide range of Obama's records that could prove, or disprove, his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office under the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural born" citizen.
Documents concerning Obama that the White House has refused to release to the public include his long-form birth certificate and his passport records, as well as other records that may possibly be relevant, such as records regarding Obama's possible adoption by his Indonesian stepfather.College application and tuition financial aid records which would reveal whether Obama was ever registered as a
foreign student.

Anything else you would care to acuse me of making up?



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:46 PM
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I am eagerly awaiting your apology or factual evidence to dispute my facts Sinnthia.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
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EVERY state most surely does,


No, they do not. That is just a flat out lie.


it is an in depth document signed by the physician, and others in attendance and usually one or both of the parents,
there is also a short form, and in some cases a souvenir birth certificate which has foot prints.


The souveneir birth certificate has nothing to do with this as that is not legitimate proof of anything to anyone. It is something you buy for fun and that is it. It has no relation the real birth certificates, both long and short. Not all states issue long forms. Sorry. My state is one that does not issue them. You can dismiss that all you like but the fact remains I cannot get a long form and you could not get my long form because there is none for us to get.


there is 'talk' of going to electronic as a short form storage,
but long forms will ALWAYS be in place and used,
now shoo fly shoo !



I really think that almost none of you have any idea what a birth registration vs a birth certificate is. You seem to have it all really confused. That is ok. I know you are not going to take anything I say and maybe look into it. How about you just get me a long form BC from my state and shut me up then.


Long Form and Short Form provided for you Sinnthia. Courtesy of TexasChem!

Here is an example of a Hawaiian Long Form www.wnd.com...

Here is what Obama has released www.wnd.com...



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 10:28 PM
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Yea after two years I could pull a birth certificate out of my arse, hell after 10 years I bet I could pull a 757 out of my arse.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by TexasChem
. The FEC links follow the entries.


none of your links work, as expected!


Robert Bauer's law firm of Perkins Coie has blocked all information from being realest.


yet another truther lie, care to show those records from previous presidents! Of course you cannot, as they are private



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 10:56 PM
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His "alleged" CIA status, nothing has been proven yet sir, and until I see "real" evidence of these ridiculous accusations my statement still stands.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 11:08 PM
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Even Chris Matthews and his panel of lefties think Obama should just release his long form certificate to put this story to rest. I actually agree with Matthews for the first time. Actually, this is the second time he has suggested this. Clear up this mess once and for all and we'll find that Obama has been covering a different kind of secret.


"Why has the president himself not demanded they put out the original documents?" Matthews wonders.

"If it exists, why not put it out?" Chris Matthews asks.


Video
www.realclearpolitics.com...



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by TexasChem

Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
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EVERY state most surely does,


No, they do not. That is just a flat out lie.


it is an in depth document signed by the physician, and others in attendance and usually one or both of the parents,
there is also a short form, and in some cases a souvenir birth certificate which has foot prints.


The souveneir birth certificate has nothing to do with this as that is not legitimate proof of anything to anyone. It is something you buy for fun and that is it. It has no relation the real birth certificates, both long and short. Not all states issue long forms. Sorry. My state is one that does not issue them. You can dismiss that all you like but the fact remains I cannot get a long form and you could not get my long form because there is none for us to get.


there is 'talk' of going to electronic as a short form storage,
but long forms will ALWAYS be in place and used,
now shoo fly shoo !



I really think that almost none of you have any idea what a birth registration vs a birth certificate is. You seem to have it all really confused. That is ok. I know you are not going to take anything I say and maybe look into it. How about you just get me a long form BC from my state and shut me up then.


Long Form and Short Form provided for you Sinnthia. Courtesy of TexasChem!

Here is an example of a Hawaiian Long Form www.wnd.com...

Here is what Obama has released www.wnd.com...




Very nicely put chem, the wholeeeeee stem of the problem is the long form, christ i think for a buck .99 a person can get that short form that obama and cronies put out to the goyem, or are we still Americans? anyhow, way to put to bed the true nature of the argument



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
This thread isn't about his "alleged" homosexuality, or his "alleged" crack smoking. It amazes me that people are so gullible to believe something just because it is on YouTube.


Everybody believes Obama is a natural born citizen and born in Hawaii since they saw it on TV or YouTube.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
His "alleged" CIA status, nothing has been proven yet sir, and until I see "real" evidence of these ridiculous accusations my statement still stands.


How the hell can anyone see any evidence when it's all locked up?

Do you really think it's possible to draw ANY conclusion from the complete lack of all evidence and documentation? Because it's not.

And somehow, you've already come to the conclusion that Obama is perfectly eligible to be POTUS.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 11:14 PM
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You are confused. Every American state issued both a long form and an Abstract when Obama was born. Only recently has the COLB/Abstract become unaccepted as a proper form of ID -- hence, the "Real ID" program ... which effectively makes ONLY the long form acceptable. Odd, that you'd think any state doesn't produce one, especially these days.

As for the Obama question, when he was supposedly born in Hawaii, long forms were ONLY produced for children born in a Hawaiian Hospital or born on the Island with sworn testimony/affidavit of a witness to the event, hence the single reason why Obama cannot and will not produce one.



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