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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 05:32 AM
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Those in power "KNOW" that the trend globally has been towards cooling for the past 30 years....Here’s an exerpt from a CIA Climate Cooling Report from 1974!


CIA Climate Cooling Report - 1974



The western world's leading climatologists have confirmed reports of a detrimental global climatic change [cooling]. The stability of most nations is based upon a dependable source of food, but this stability will not be possible under the new climatic era. A forecast by the University of Wisconsin projects that the Earth's climate is returning to that of the neo•boreal era (1600-1850) - an era of drought, famine, and political unrest in the western world.


They knew about this for over 30 years.....refer to ZORGONS diagram he posted earlier.....ice core sample DO NOT LIE! we are due for cooling.

The trend towards a Global Warming Scrae Campaign was simply to introduce a Carbon/Emmissions Tax upon the world and for nations to sucumb some of their sovereignty to this new International Environment Group, in other words the "public" foundations of the NWO.

BUT what do you say about ice melting? Well, theres a reason for that too and it aint global warming.

Heres another more recent source detailing the same thing as the 1974 CIA report, written Scafetta and West in 2008, that showed that up to 69% of observed warming is from the sun and remind us that the sun is projected to cool.
Is Climate Sensitive to Solar Variability?

Another report by Ramanthan and Carmichael show that soot has 60% of the warming power of CO2.

Black Carbon Emmissions as major player in Global Warming


Both papers state that these factors are underappreciated by IPCC. The soot may well explain the Arctic melting, as it has recently for Asian Glaciers
(Source - www.unep.org...). )


Many scientists believe the temperature changes are more dependent on the sun than CO2, With the Sun's face nearly quiet, the monthly patterns over the last 12 months are most similar to those of 1797 preceding the Dalton Minimum of 1798-1823 during the little ice age.

So here we have data showing that SOOT has been responsible for the increase ice melt whilst the actual global tempritures have started to fall……..if you disregard the second piece of data then it does look like the world is warming because you have physical evidence to show the masses – ice melting.




posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 07:14 AM
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So it really boils down to one of two things either our Officials (like Gore) are complete incompetent imbeciles or there's an agenda. It's one or the other.


There is an agenda of course.



Good grief guys Henry Kissinger, came right out and said what the agenda was in 1970!

Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world. – Henry Kissinger.

Can it get any plainer than that?

If you want to follow the trail of how this simply stated plan is to be implemented follow Maurice Strong.

In 1972, The Rockefeller's pet Maurice Strong: Socialist, Big Oil Mogul, Trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation, Senior Advisor to the World Bank,and all round sleazy conman, became Chair of the UN First Earth Summit



It is instructive to read Strong's 1972 Stockholm speech and compare it with the issues of Earth Summit 1992. Strong warned urgently about global warming, the devastation of forests, the loss of biodiversity, polluted oceans, the population time bomb. Then as now, he invited to the conference the brand-new environmental NGOs [non-governmental organizations]: he gave them money to come; they were invited to raise hell at home. After Stockholm, environment issues became part of the administrative framework in Canada, the U.S., Britain, and Europe. www.afn.org...


Strong co-authored the 'Earth Charter' with Mikhail Gorbachev in 1992.


Beyond Interdependence: The Meshing of the World’s Economy and the Earth’s Ecology, by Jim MacNeil.
Publisher the Trilateral Commission
Forward by David Rockefeller

The Introduction by Strong

“This interlocking…is the new reality of the century, with profound implications for the shape of our institutions of governance, national and international. By the year 2012, these changes must be fully integrated into our economic and political life.”


Strong is a member of the Commission on Global Governance

Report of the Commission on Global Governance
(ISBN 0-19-827998-1; Published by Oxford University Press, 1995
Excerpts:


Next to life, liberty is what people value most...
The impulse to possess turf is a powerful one for all species; yet it is one that people must overcome....
global rules of custom constrain the freedom of sovereign states.....
sensitivity over the relationship between international responsibility and national sovereignty [is a] considerable obstacle to the leadership at the international level,...
Although states are sovereign, they are not free individually to do whatever they want."

We propose, therefore, that the Trusteeship Council... be given the mandate of exercising trusteeship over the global commons. Its functions would include the administration of environmental treaties.... It would refer any economic or security issues arising from these matters to the Economic Security Council or the Security Council.

[Global commons are] the atmosphere, outer space, the oceans, and the related environment and life-support systems that contribute to the support of human life.


Commission on Global Governance report: Our Global Neighborhood (Oxford University Press, 1995, ISBN 0-19-827998-3, 410pp).
specific proposals


* Global taxation;
* A standing UN army;
* An Economic Security Council;
* UN authority over the global commons;
* An end to the veto power of permanent members of the Security Council;
* A new parliamentary body of "civil society" representatives (NGOs);
* A new "Petitions Council";
* A new Court of Criminal Justice
* Binding verdicts of the International Court of Justice;
* Expanded authority for the Secretary General.


It is pretty darn obvious that Strong is part of an international power grab


Remember, at Copenhagen, the Draft Danish text turned over control of Carbon trading to the World Bank and Strong is a Senior Advisor to a Rockefeller picked head of the World Bank.


The other guy to follow is Ged Davis

Climategate e-mail: a copy of Ged Davis' IPCC-SRES Zero Order Draft on storylines and scenarios: Global Governance & Sustainable Development (B1)


Ged Davis on Sustainablity

Global-Change Scenarios: their Development and Use by Ged Davis

Scenario B1 => Sustainability => UN Agenda 21


[Sustainable Development B1]
B1 - 13th session of the United Nations Commission on Sustainable Development
(Source: Earth Negotiations Bulletin, Vol. 5 No. 218, 11 Apr 05)

The thirteenth session of the United Nations Commission on Sustainable Development (CSD-13) takes place from 11-22 April 2005, at UN headquarters in New York. CSD-13 is the second session to be held since the new multi-year programme of work was adopted at CSD-11 in 2003. The new work programme restructured CSD's work on the basis of two-year "Implementation Cycles." Each Implementation Cycle is comprised of a Review Year and a Policy Year, and focuses on a thematic cluster of issues. Building on the outcomes of CSD-12 (which was the Review Year of the first cycle), CSD-13 will focus on policies and options to expedite implementation of commitments in the areas of water, sanitation and human settlements, as contained in Agenda 21, the Programme for the Further Implementation of Agenda 21, the Johannesburg Plan of Implementation and the Millennium Declaration. Various cross-cutting issues will also be addressed. " www.inesglobal.com...


UN Division for Sustainable Development - full text of Agenda 21



Douglas D McKay of Shell International Limited, London also shows up in the climategate e-mails.
In e-mail 0962818260, a meeting with Shell is mentioned “… accept an invitation to act as a strategic partner and will contribute to a studentship fund …”


“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

– H.L. Mencken



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 07:25 AM
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People that believe in the fairytale of global warming need to take a good look outside let that freezing, frigid, ice COLD reality hit them in the face..

They have all been duped.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 07:49 AM
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Those in power "KNOW" that the trend globally has been towards cooling for the past 30 years....Here’s an exerpt from a CIA Climate Cooling Report from 1974!


They KNEW about it well before that. That was the final report that was written in 1974.


First Gleissberg (1939 & 1971) identified an 88 yr cycle in the weather patterns www.agu.org...

Gleissberg's work meant you could predict the next warming spell. What was interesting was that in 1972, the time of the First Earth Summit, the world was STILL in a cool phase and would not start warming for another couple of years! So how come Maurice Strong was already hyping "Global Warming" in 1972?

The second really interesting point was the Milankovitch Cycles that predict Ice Ages.

Milankovitch published “Astronomical Methods for Investigating Earth’s Historical Climate” in 1938. His work was of great interest especially during the 1963 International Geophysical Year.


George Kukla, together with Robert Matthews of Brown University, convened a conference in 1972 entitled “The Present Interglacial: How and When will it End?”, and reported it in Science magazine... [note the date]

Kukla and Matthews alerted President Richard Nixon, and as a result the US Administration set up a Panel on the Present Interglacial involving the State Department and other agencies. None of us knew then that the mid-century cooling was about to be punctuated by a warming spell from the late 1970s to the mid 1990s.... [again note the dates]

A more definitive confirmation of Milankovitch came in 1976, in a paper by Hays, Imbrie and Shackleton, using Shackleton’s data in the figure above. But long before either that paper or my own, there was widespread behind-the-scenes acceptance of Milankovitch, and Kukla, for one, was concerned about the implications.....

George Kukla: Well almost all of us have been pretty sure that there were only four ice ages, separated by relatively long warm intervals. But now we know that there were twenty in the last two million years. And the warm periods are much shorter than we believed originally. They are something around 10,000 years long. and I’m sorry to say that the one we are living in now has just passed its 10,000 year birthday. That of course means that the ice age is due now any time.
calderup.wordpress.com...


Hays, Imbrie and Shackleton


James D. Hays, Columbia University Ph.D. 1964, spent the late ‘60’s developing, in cooperation with Lamont colleagues, a chronostratigraphic framework for deep-sea sediments by connecting the land-dated record of Earth’s magnetic field reversals with marine stratigraphic datums

By 1970 Hays realized that this marine chronostratigraphy... could form the basis of a global study of Pleistocene climates. He asked John Imbrie to join the Lamont group and the CLIMAP project was born. Hays then asked Nick Shackelton to join CLIMAP and generate an oxygen isotope record of benthic and planktonic microfossils in a Pacific core.

It was this careful pre-CLIMAP and early CLIMAP chronostratigraphic work that allowed Hays, Imbrie and Shackelton to show, through analyses in both the frequency and time domains, that Earth’s orbital variations control the timing of climate change on ice age time scales, proving the theory that Milankovitch contributed so much to developing.
www.egu.eu...

Hays early work in the 1960's showed Milankovitch was probably right. That is why he recruited Nick Shackelton to look at not only the Indian Ocean Cores but the Pacific cores and thereby showing the phenomenon was not local.

The big question of course is did and do the elite think we are heading into an Ice Age? Is that the reason they killed the golden goose in Europe and the USA and started moving industry towards the Equator? Remember the elite do not care about us they call us The Great Unwashed

While the EU and USA are bankrupting Brazil's economy is booming: www.cbsnews.com...
Check out where Mexico, India and China are on a Map.

Again it was in the early 70's you got OSHA, the EPA, major inflation and the beginning of the collapse of the American economy.

It was in 1973 that Obama's Science Czar, John P. Holdren, co-authored a book, “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions,” It was a college textbook used in teaching at the College level.


“A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States. De-devolopment means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation. Resources and energy must be diverted from frivolous and wasteful uses in overdeveloped countries to filling the genuine needs of underdeveloped countries."

“The need for de-development presents our economists with a major challenge,” they wrote. “They must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than the present one. Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided for every human being.” grendelreport.posterous.com...


Global Warming & Environmentalism was "massive campaign [that] must be launched"
Agenda 21 was the new economic model for " a stable, low-consumption economy"


Put on your Tin Foil Hats and read my Ultimate Conspiracy Theory for the rest of the information.
edit on 27-12-2010 by crimvelvet because: correct fumble fingered spelling



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
Those in power "KNOW" that the trend globally has been towards cooling for the past 30 years....Here’s an exerpt from a CIA Climate Cooling Report from 1974!


CIA Climate Cooling Report - 1974



The western world's leading climatologists have confirmed reports of a detrimental global climatic change [cooling]. The stability of most nations is based upon a dependable source of food, but this stability will not be possible under the new climatic era. A forecast by the University of Wisconsin projects that the Earth's climate is returning to that of the neo•boreal era (1600-1850) - an era of drought, famine, and political unrest in the western world.


They knew about this for over 30 years.....refer to ZORGONS diagram he posted earlier.....ice core sample DO NOT LIE! we are due for cooling.



This I think is the leverage the UN/Vatican/NWO used over the Russians (and Chinese) - it was commonly accepted wisdom in the 70's that we were overdue for another ice-age - with the implication being that Russia will lose it's entire territory to the ice.

Russians are then faced with the choice of starving to death - or invading Europe and the M.E. - I think the NWO went to them and said work with us, or you are screwed. This is why they have erased this from public awareness and forced everyone to look the other way with this GW scam.

Notice how under globalisation all the worlds manufacturing has been moved southward nearer the equator.

As for the rest they seem to be following Albert Pikes 'vision' - M.E war to destroy all three Monotheistic religions, jihadi civil war that collapses Europe, something along similar lines for the US.

Russian population gets to move south into a depopulated and defenceless Europe, China does the same with the US.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 07:53 AM
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People that believe in the fairytale of global warming need to take a good look outside let that freezing, frigid, ice COLD reality hit them in the face..


We used to get snow once every five years. Got snow five times last winter and so far three times this winter. Right now there is FIVE inches of the stuff bringing everything to a halt because we have no snow removal equipment here.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 08:00 AM
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Thats terrible!

The global-warmist are trying to insult your intelligence then because the earth is suppose to be getting HOTTER!

Now they back swim the information when they said 3 years ago it was going to keep getting hotter and hotter.

So they put their tin foil hats on and say *It id due becurz dee icer caps is a melting make it colders*

Come on can they get a grip?

The summers have not been any cooler.... It gets hotter when their hockey stick chart says so, and when their hockey stick chart tells them to bark the weather for their agenda they bark that weather...

This seems to only happen when they want it to happen...

The earths weather goes through changes a little hotter here and a littler colder there.

Nothing abnormal, all these anomalies are false, fear mongering, made up, money scams...

Nothing more and nothing less.


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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK
Global warming is causing the cold weather.

Warm water in the north causes the ice to melt. This cold fresh water flows into the North Atlantic cooling the ocean and shutting down the Gulf Stream. The GS keeps northern Europe warm, without it they would have weather like Northern Canada. The end result could be an ice-age.

Global warming is real and we can see the results happening right before our eyes. Those that refuse to believe GW is real are doing so for political reasons.

To say we're not having an effect on the climate is ignorant and also politically motivated. We fill the atmosphere with pollutants every day. What do you think is causing ozone depletion?

There IS a scam going on, to exploit the situation for gain (what don't capitalists exploit for their own gain), but it doesn't mean it's not happening.
edit on 12/26/2010 by ANOK because: typo


As I am reading down the post yours is the first sensible post I have read. I agree with the way mankind is polluting the atmosphere and ripping up our ozone how can they begin to think and say, mankind is not causing
GW? Those people who say this send my mind twirling in confusion. I do believe because of GW we are heading into a mini ice age. Maybe this is what earth needs to survive. Rid the pest who are damaging it. your alright in e and my book sensible and aweare.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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I studied meteorology and climatology at university thirty years ago, and I have this argument all the time with my brother in law, who is an ignoramus, and delights in posting every time it's a colder than normal day where he lives, believing that this is indicative of something. It's not.

Weather is the current meteorological state. The fact that it's snowing in in Atlanta has no bearing on anything other than the fact that it's snowing in Atlanta.

Climate is the statistical meteorological state, over time. Over lots of time. If it snows in Atlanta today, it has little relevance on climate studies. If it begins to snow every other week in Atlanta for a couple of decades, that's another matter. At best, climatology in the current era (say, the past 150 years) can work with trends, but there's not enough data to say much beyond that, never mind assigning a cause to those trends.

So, to say "it's cold in New York today, Global Warming is false" is ignorant blathering, nothing more. Similarly, to say "it's hot in North Dakota today, Global warming is true" is just as ignorant.

That said, while I hold no strong opinion on the issue of Global Warming, I have long held that, as weather is a complex system, impacted by seemingly insignificant factors, the sheer volume of crap that we dump into the water and pump into the atmosphere cannot help but modify things. To say otherwise is to either hold an obstinate opinion that belies the facts of physics, or to be an opinion that is formed in willful ignorance of them.

Doesn't matter if your pollution modifies natural albedo by 1% or 0.0001%, it has an impact and things will be different than if there was no modification. The nature of our world and economy is such that there will not likely be any practical reduction in this modification, regardless of how many people get up in arms about it, so my guess is that things will continue to "trend" for some time to come.

We humans have a habit of ignoring problems until they reach some critical point and then relying on our cleverness to work out a solution, and if something breaks, climatewise, I expect that things will be no different. Whether it gets sorted out at that time, I suppose, will indicate what that future of the planet, and us, might be.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 09:07 AM
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Bullocks, what is ignorant blathering is blaming everything in life
and weather related on global warming..

Hurricane Katrina? GLOBAL WARMING!

Slow hurricane year? GLOBAL WARMING!

El Nino? GLOBAL WARMING!

El Nina? GLOBAL WARMING!

Cold winter? GLOBAL WARMING!

Ugly dog got hit by a car because it is a dumb mutt? GLOBAL WARMING!

Get a life no one credible believes this hoax.

If you say Al Gore is credible (with his child like hockey stick charts),
then I have some snake oil to sell you.
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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by badw0lf
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, make it cold


Global warming or not, this is friggen torture...




Sorry, you're in the wrong hemisphere. Doesn't count. Nor does the record-shattering heat we all dealt with in the right-side up part of the world a few months ago.

It's snowing in America, so global warming is a lie.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by thecinic
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Bullocks, what is ignorant blathering is blaming everything in life
and weather related on global warming..


I would invite you to reread what I wrote and cite where I said that Global Warming is real and to blame for anything. What I said was to believe that the laws of physics should bend to the political will of the people is idiotic. You pour a bunch of particulates into the atmosphere, it is going to have an impact. What, or how much, I have no idea.

Your inflammatory response is indicative of one who is fueled by passions that have nothing to do with reality, particularly given that you either didn't read, or didn't understand, what I wrote before you spewed that nonsensical reply.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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over here in the uk since the cold and wintery weather of last winter theyve changed it too climate change not global warming anymore sounds like their edging their bets, ive been telling everyone since the 1980`s their be an ice age on the way.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by ANOKPersonally I think it's a natural event made worse by mans lack of concern for the environment. I don't think people realise how much crap is pumped into our atmosphere everyday. I know people hate to take responsibility for anything anymore. It's pretty simple, carbon dioxide gases increase the temps because it create an insulating layer, which blocks solar energy from being reflected back into space.

Even if it's not the cause there is nothing wrong in reducing pollution, our air is getting more and more toxic.


Typical... first the GW folks tell you it's man made then they do a complete turn around and say "well even if it's not reducing pollution is a good thing"...

No, this whole GW issue is about control.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by thecinic
People that believe in the fairytale of global warming need to take a good look outside let that freezing, frigid, ice COLD reality hit them in the face..

They have all been duped.


This is the problem those people refuse to admit they were duped and no matter how much proof you show them they still cling to the smallest of ideas that in some way or form this is all being done by us and we need to pay al gore an insane amount of money just to breathe.

Here come the global warming nuts that refuse to admit its all a lie: "global warming its real infact we were breathing too much and it got so hot that it got cold again!"



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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I love when people believe they can use and abuse our planet without any negative results.





posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by SeventhSeal
I love when people believe they can use and abuse our planet without any negative results.




Our planet is a big girl now - she has been used and abused by the best through aeons past.

Stretch out your arm, if the earth's history was the tip of your nose till your finger - one stroke of a nail file would erase all of human history.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 01:02 PM
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What do you think is causing ozone depletion?


The fact that the DuPont's patent ran out on Freon?

DuPont owned another patent on an alternative product that was more expensive and more difficult to produce.



December 12, 2000 -- After reaching a record-breaking size in mid-September, the ozone hole over Antarctica has made a surprisingly hasty retreat, disappearing completely by November 19, NASA scientists said.

The ozone hole waxes and wanes with the seasons every year, slowly vanishing as the Southern Hemisphere reaches the peak of its summer. But this year the hole closed up earlier than in recent years;...
science.nasa.gov...



Qzone Hole Healing Could Cause Further Climate Warming

ScienceDaily (Jan. 26, 2010) — The hole in the ozone layer is now steadily closing, but its repair could actually increase warming in the southern hemisphere, according to scientists at the University of Leeds.

The Antarctic ozone hole was once regarded as one of the biggest environmental threats, but the discovery of a previously undiscovered feedback shows that it has instead helped to shield this region from carbon-induced warming over the past two decades.....
www.sciencedaily.com...



Ozone Hole Science Revisited

... scientists concluded that CFCs would drift into the stratosphere where they would produce chlorine compounds that react with ice particles and sunlight to efficiently destroy ozone molecules that shield the surface from ultraviolet light streaming from the sun. In 1987, the world adopted the Montreal Protocol to eventually eliminate the production of CFCs. Activists often cite the Montreal Protocol as a model for a future treaty addressing man-made global warming by banning the emission of greenhouse gases. A Nobel Prize in chemistry was awarded in 1995 to the three scientists who identified the ozone/CFC connection.

This neat story of the scientific identification of a man-made cause... is now being challenged by some very recent research. News@nature.com (sub required) is reporting a new analysis by Markus Rex, an atmosphere scientist at the Alfred Wegener Institute of Polar and Marine Research in Potsdam, Germany, which finds that the data for the break-down rate of a crucial molecule, dichlorine peroxide (Cl2O2) is almost an order of magnitude lower than the currently accepted rate.

What this could mean according to the Nature news article is that:


"This must have far-reaching consequences," Rex says. "If the measurements are correct we can basically no longer say we understand how ozone holes come into being." What effect the results have on projections of the speed or extent of ozone depletion remains unclear.

The rapid photolysis of Cl2O2 is a key reaction in the chemical model of ozone destruction developed 20 years ago2 (see graphic). If the rate is substantially lower than previously thought, then it would not be possible to create enough aggressive chlorine radicals to explain the observed ozone losses at high latitudes, says Rex.




posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 01:12 PM
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It is really ignorant to look around you and say, gee, it is cold here so global warming is a fallacy or to say the northern winters are harsh so there is no global warming. Such logic only works to sway FOX News watchers or Drudge Report readers. The overwhelming evidence for GLOBAL warming is clear, who care what is happening you your backyard. Do you say, "I'm rich so there is no global poverty problem" or "I'm poor so everyone else must be poor."

The facts about the global reality are clear. The oceans are warmer and getting warmer still, especially at the poles where temperatures are more acutely higher than normal compared to other places. Total average global temperatures are warmer as well.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by pajoly
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It is really ignorant to look around you and say, gee, it is cold here so global warming is a fallacy or to say the northern winters are harsh so there is no global warming. Such logic only works to sway FOX News watchers or Drudge Report readers. The overwhelming evidence for GLOBAL warming is clear, who care what is happening you your backyard. Do you say, "I'm rich so there is no global poverty problem" or "I'm poor so everyone else must be poor."

The facts about the global reality are clear. The oceans are warmer and getting warmer still, especially at the poles where temperatures are more acutely higher than normal compared to other places. Total average global temperatures are warmer as well.



yes and every other plannet in out solar system is warmer too. I guess man caused that too? whats wrong with drudge?




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