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The Muslims are not the enemy.

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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by March of the Fire Ants
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You think modern Christian fundies aren't as nutty as Islamic ones? That's so funny I can't seem to laugh. You should look up Eric Prince and his personal crusader army, Xe (formerly Blackwater). They're so evil the US government pulled them out of the Middle East.


And when, exactly, was the last time Christian fundamentalists committed a suicide bombing, or kidnapped an innocent person - only to slice their head off slowly with a pocket knife. Or how about the last time a Christian went on a protest with signs saying things like "British Soldiers burn in hell" or threw acid in someones face, or committed an honour killing or an arranged marriage?




posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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did you miss the beheading video that was posted here at ATS briefly
where some christian mexicans beheaded a guy
oh you missed that fact eh
oh yeah HITLER and the Germans were Christians

satan is the prince of lies they say
you are proving that today
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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Danbones
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did you miss the beheading video that was posted here at ATS briefly
where some christian mexicans beheaded a guy
oh you missed that fact eh


That is an anomaly, islamic beheadings are a daily occurrence.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by Christian Voice
I would say that along with islam the enemies are the liberal minded idgots that sympathize with the islamics and with abortionists, and homosexuals, and murderers. We live in a world now where the moral compass is reversed. People think it's ok to murder your unborn child yet fight to keep convicted killers alive. These same idiots run down the fooundations of the family with "gay marriage". They sympathize with muslim terrorist POWs. My heart bleeds for you all.
True, the US government and most other governments are corrupt and need to be dealt with but do not run down US soldiers that earn a living from the government.


For the sake of argument lets assume I broke the T & C and called you a nasty name.

"Liberal minded idgots" as you so eloquently put it, do not sympathize with the "islamics". We see through the propaganda that is trying to cause tension between people while acknowledging any and all evils committed by any party.

Here's hoping you're just a troll parodying a nutty christian fundie..



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by March of the Fire Ants

Originally posted by Christian Voice
I would say that along with islam the enemies are the liberal minded idgots that sympathize with the islamics and with abortionists, and homosexuals, and murderers. We live in a world now where the moral compass is reversed. People think it's ok to murder your unborn child yet fight to keep convicted killers alive. These same idiots run down the fooundations of the family with "gay marriage". They sympathize with muslim terrorist POWs. My heart bleeds for you all.
True, the US government and most other governments are corrupt and need to be dealt with but do not run down US soldiers that earn a living from the government.


For the sake of argument lets assume I broke the T & C and called you a nasty name.

"Liberal minded idgots" as you so eloquently put it, do not sympathize with the "islamics". We see through the propaganda that is trying to cause tension between people while acknowledging any and all evils committed by any party.

Here's hoping you're just a troll parodying a nutty christian fundie..


Blind liberalism is the reason why Europe is undergoing a slow islamic invasion, because the liberal/left banned any complaining about it.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:11 PM
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Ignorance, pure simple ignorance....Take the time to read the Q'ran at the very least. As the Bible it is an open book left to interpretations. I'm and Atheist so Religion is just something I don't believe in but it does fascinate me and I love reading the different "books of God" .

Now before you slam an entire religion "Islam" please look at ...ohhh......Let's say the Catholics and the history of that religion.....Hummmmmm. As for peaceful religions, heck even the Buddhists went to war ( defensively but still...)

I challenge you to go to a Mosk , enter and see how you will be greeted, ask questions, talk civilly and you will soon find out that only Islamic extremists are at fault and believe in eliminating all others that do not follow Islamic teachings.

Open conversations with other people from other ethnic backgrounds and different religions is quite interesting and very valuable to ones personal growth. I guess some people are just too scared to discover and grow !?!?!?



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:11 PM
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Islam is the enemy. They do not conform to their host countries laws or culture. They raise the crime rates world over (see Oslo for an example) and cause nothing but grief. They erode the host countries culture (see Norway in general) because certain aspects of that culture is "offensive" to them. So instead of THEM adapting to the host countries ways, it's the host country which must adapt to THEIR ways or else said host country will face strong criticism (or even worse) from the Islamic community.

But it's not just Islam which is to blame here, it our own countries who back over backwards and allow them to do what they do. If it's out of fear or what, it doesn't matter. Our countries governments need to take responsibility for allowing this to happen.

A friend wouldn't ask if we enjoyed the "gift" they gave us when they spoke about 9/11. (Which I have bee personally told by a Muslim.)



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:16 PM
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Great article.

It wasn't muslims.

www.takeourworldback.com...



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by dylandalek
Or how about the last time a Christian went on a protest with signs saying things like "British Soldiers burn in hell"


Are you kidding with these questions?

Christian Suicide Bombing

Christian Beheadings
And have you heard of a guillotine? But we Christian Americans prefer to sure voltage into people to kill them.
Yes, Christians are SO much more righteous!

Christian Honor Killing



I'm just saying... You should have looked these things up prior to asking your questions.


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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:18 PM
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satan is the prince of lies
that is one thing I'm seeing here
of course he would call him self a conservative christian
and then bare false whitness
and of course he would blame the crime of 911
on someon innocent and justify it with no proof what so ever.

that way they get to porno scan children and grope them in airports



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by dylandalek
Or how about the last time a Christian went on a protest with signs saying things like "British Soldiers burn in hell"


Are you kidding with these questions?

www.theglobalist.com...

Christian Beheadings
And have you heard of a guillotine? But we Christian Americans prefer to sure voltage into people to kill them.
Yes, Christians are SO much more righteous!

Christian Honor Killing



I'm just saying... You should have looked these things up prior to asking your questions.


I am still waiting for an answer to my previously posted question.

"How can a religion who's name translated into English reads "submission", not be seen as a threat?"

You seem to have such a wide range of liberalist propaganda, I am waiting to see which one of them you use to answer that question,
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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:21 PM
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And when, exactly, was the last time Christian fundamentalists committed a suicide bombing, or kidnapped an innocent person - only to slice their head off slowly with a pocket knife. Or how about the last time a Christian went on a protest with signs saying things like "British Soldiers burn in hell" or threw acid in someones face, or committed an honour killing


haven't read much about the troubles in Ireland have you
no, the truth would mess up your play

PS Mr christian familly values the satanist skull and bones man GWB said: ( and did)
it was OK to torture childrens genitals with pliers in front of their innocent parents
in order to get the confession the government wanted
and of course fixed the laws to avoid public jurisprudence.
yeah
if thats christian family values
islam ain't the problem
PPS
Mr canadian family values people walked with dinosaurs Harper
just sold my country to the satanist bankers
Islam ain't the problem

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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:23 PM
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We are our own enemy. Everywhere you go there are people willing to do what it takes for their own desires. All things like politics and religion are a tool for these people to get what they want. People are fundamentally the same everywhere you go, regardless of race, religion, nationality, gender, skills, wealth etc. There will be people who try to do the right thing, and those who will manipulate and abuse everything in their path.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by dylandalek
I am still waiting for an answer to my previously posted question.

"How can a religion who's name translated into English reads "submission", not be seen as a threat?"


Wait. Christians submit to their God, too.



The Arabic word 'Islam' simply means 'submission', and derives from a word meaning 'peace'. In a religious context it means complete submission to the will of God. 'Allah' is the Arabic name for God, which is used by Arab Muslims and Christians alike.


Source

No, the word "submission" does not scare me nor does it threaten me. I do not live in fear. I know what submission means. I train dogs. It's a non-threatening, non-dominant position that people and animals take. If you have a problem with Muslims submitting to their God, that's YOUR problem.



You seem to have such a wide range of liberalist propaganda, I am waiting to see which one of them you use to answer that question.


I'm not actually a liberal. I hold both conservative and liberal political and social views. But if it makes you feel better to attack the evil liberals, go right on.
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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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No one is my enemy, except those that infringe upon my liberty or freedoms. Let us take a look at the list.

Who steals my labor and forces me into servitude?

That would be the government and those that back the enslavement of my fellow man.

Who steals my property by forcing me to pay for it after I have already paid for it?

That would be the government and those that back the unlawful seizure of property.

Who infringes on my rights of travel, speech, assembly, arms, etc?

That would be the government and those that back the tyranny of oppression.

As for the Muslims, if anyone was to attempt to harm someone without a trial by jury, I would take up arms against them. Do they fit the bill? Maybe, maybe not, they just best not try anything stupid around me.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:42 PM
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"How can a religion who's name translated into English reads "submission", not be seen as a threat?"




Holly molly....Again...Pick up a book....And if that's to complicated and you wish to believe Wikipedia as your encyclopedia, look it up.

Islam means submission, sure but it's referred to the submission to Allah . The Catholics or Christians are the same, the bible reads and these are the word of Jesus himself " Thow shall not adore none but thy father" when walking through the market and destroying the golden calf. Isn't that dictating submission to one God ???



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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It's amazing how on here with so much information and people supposedly "Denying Ignorance" that such a significant percentage of ATS'ers take this ridiculous Anti-Muslim bait. Is it not obvious there's an agenda to make the Western World fear and hate Muslims? You have the brainwashed and those with agendas posting Anti-Muslim hate here every day and it's seen as mainstream and acceptable. If a community like ATS which is supposedly above all that bites like a starving fish, the rest of the world has no hope either. I don't really care because I've just come to accept that 90-95% of the world are complete retards without the ability of abstract or logical thought. This Anti-Muslim thing is just an example of that.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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It's funny OP. Those who you defend in this thread view you as an infidel and want your head on a plate.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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Yeah, all those suicide bombers must be a figment of the entire world's imagination.......................not so much.

What about the call from all the moderate Muslim nations to stop the insanity................not so much.

What about stopping the stoning......................not so much.

It is not hard to demonize something that is already pretty dang bad.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
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Yeah, all those suicide bombers must be a figment of the entire world's imagination.......................not so much.

What about the call from all the moderate Muslim nations to stop the insanity................not so much.

What about stopping the stoning......................not so much.

It is not hard to demonize something that is already pretty dang bad.


So when you drop a multi-million dollar bomb from a plane on civilians that's noble but when your land is taken and invaded by foreign enemies and the only thing you can do is strap explosive onto yourself to make a statement, that's evil.

What about stopping the war on drugs, or stopping locking our own citizens in cages without sun or human contact, or any of the negative things Western culture does? And you only got two vague examples so you're not even saying anything.

Welcome to the 90-95%
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