Originally posted by capgrup
I will never ridicule or belittle anyone who suffers through it.
Neither will I.
I grew up ridicules and belittled (even worse was my fragile emotional state was transparent)
Yet people still attacked me unprovoked...
However my posts are genuine as they are unconventional because they identify the problem.
Then they give solutions. People don't like that. I feel you chose those
words poorly only because my posts solve problems.
Only a sensitive person one with a self-ish tendency to view their self *attacked*
ridiculed and/or belittled would see my posts as such.
Originally posted by capgrupFrom what I could understand of yourpost I get the impression
that you do have this condition. What I do not understand or appreciate is your need to
make myself feel as if I need to justify my existence to you.
Man, reading that gives me a strong sense of sorrow and regret
It was never an intention of mine to have people justify their existences to me.
In your case I wanted to know why you feel the way that you do (genuinely)
because I thought getting to the root of the issue would help?
I feel a person will have ups and downs -no question.
Rehabilitation doesn't denote curing Depression...It means:
-You acknowledge the problem(s)
-Have (or build up a strong sense of) determination for fixing the problem(s)
-Applying the wise knowledge given immediately injecting your life with it.
-People do NOT cause other people to ___________ YOU choose to become __________.....
Quite frankly I *want* to help people plain and simple.
Everyone I have talked to I have helped, how you ask?
Well, in order for that person to get help they need to have a desire for that help.
Then, they need to absolve their guilt, inner demons, skeletons in closets, harboring fears, blame...
This is done by pinpointing the catalyst, the causality and the origin(s) of said aforementioned feelings...
This is done by being held accountable and taking responsibility (not for the entire event mind you)
but aspects of it that were allowed to perpetuate due to ones own self inaction/internal feelings of _____.
Originally posted by capgrup
1. My family knows my views about this subject and I believe if I choose it they would understand why.
2. The reason I have not done so yet is I do not think I have reached that point yet.
Your mother and father made the decision to create new life in you.
It's hard to imagine me having a son/daughter (at any age) and *understanding* him taking his own life.
(And I haven't any children) -even I could imagine the pain -even then it is nothing compared to losing a child.
A parent should never (have to) outlive their children (via an unnatural death/circumstance) no less.
If your parents/family have any shred of moral decency in the form of love, empathy, compassion...
They WILL be destroyed internally, mentally and possibly even meta-physically.
Originally posted by capgrup3. Physical pain is different than mental or phsycological
anguish. The latter could very well be a chemical imbalance or something that counseling
could help with. All of your philisophical meanderings cannot change that.
I'm glad you made the distinction.
My mother didn't commit suicide, but still...she died.
I love her more than life itself...more than anything. I still feel her.
I am currently broken. It destroyed me to the point of me not wanting to
live anymore because I reasoned with myself and said, "What is the point?"
I connected with her on such a strong bonding level that her death was in essence my death.
I would have rather died than to have my everything gone just like that.
All superficial niceties in life do nothing for me.
2nd, my "philosophical meanderings" aren't anything wandering/random or the like.
Why would you say such a thing to me?
You confuse my words for someone looking on the outside in when in fact I was
everything clinically wrong with a person. How I overcame it relies on basic principles.
I've overcome suicidal thoughts 100% and I did it myself without drugs
(that didn't even work) when I took them. I suffer randomly with depression
but once I am aware of it *I* can change my feelings of it in an instant and the
manifest of change happens within minutes.
Originally posted by capgrup4. Western society and religion does place
a stigma on suicide. Eastern religions and
cultures veiw it differently.
I'm not religious, I'm spiritual.
Religion is what is wrong with a LOT of people make no mistake.
If there is a God out there he doesn't intervene.
The voice inside of you isn't God.
It is your conscience/intuitive self.
Mind over matter doesn't mean you think of winning the lotto then Poof you do.
In order to hit a home run you must first step up to the plate...
Mind over matter means:
-first you must visualise it
-then you must say it
-then it will materialise.
The pieces will all be there for you and a path towards your goal is created.
What you do with this knowledge is entirely up to you.
Have you heard of Dr. Wayne Dyer?
Mind viruses (memes) have reshaped how people view things in life.
In fact, just because a divorce is supposed to be "stressful" doesn't mean it has to be.
The loss of a job doesn't have to be stressful, does it?
Does the person act out stress because this is what they think/feel happens when something happens?