Originally posted by InnerTruths
I completely agree with what you are saying. It pretty much is mind over matter, but the fact of the matter is, some minds cannot GET OVER matter.
It's just not that easy for everybody. It may be for you, and if so, I am truly glad you have found solace in what you sought. I wish it could be for
everyone else, I sincerely mean that. I hate seeing and feeling people suffering from such a disease.
The thing is most people act out of subconscious behavioural patterns that
they sometimes cannot see/realise much less seize them and begin a change UNLESS
they catch themselves being aware of it...(in the act of)
It was just as next to impossible for me to get over matter as you put it
until something occurred to me...I know I sound like a broken record
but I'm trying to brainwash the OP just as he's allowed himself to be brainwashed
by arriving at his current state of mind. He didn't do it all on his own either, he had intervention.
See, taking responsibility doesn't mean you have to realise you're not acting "normal"
due to a "feeling" you feel (a mental illness is usually the assumed problem)
...Taking responsibility means you come to the self realisation that no matter
HOW you arrived at your current disposition...IT can be changed!!!!!!
Knowing something is possible: Means it CAN happen.
However *Feeling* it can never be (due to limited belief system) that someone
else has enabled another to *Feel* it is so...means the answer to a possible cure
is always NO!
To people unwilling to accept this truth I'm considered (insert negative connotation here)
while to people who have already taken the 1st step feel I possess true wisdom
attained from being spiritually enlightened...I don't have an ego here mind you but
I do know my self worth....You should too, as should the OP as well as everyone!
Originally posted by InnerTruthsFor most people with clinical depression (long term) however, this may take a lifetime to achieve if it
is achievable at all to specific people (and their circumstances). Because you're brain is wired a certain way doesn't mean every person's brain is
wired the same way.
Everyone is unique and different in experiences, love, and pain.
Some need help, and seek help, others try to do it on their own, and others will find that no matter what they do and how hard they try, it just wont
go away.
In order for mind over matter to work, the mind has to be sound and focused. It's kinda hard to focus when all your thoughts are swirling and racing
through your mind. For those with long term depression, the times when they are focused, are far and few if it happens at all.
(1) Brain wiring doesn't mean it is permanent.
-Change is capable of transcending misconceptions, misappropriations and misunderstandings in life.
-I too felt my brain had to be wired a certain way and it was, but the question is
Why was it wired that way, and
HOW was it wired?
(2) Change manifests when the belief of a person bargains or negotiates their way
from one point of an idea, thought or construct, to another... This isn't impossible.
What you're really saying is most people who suffer from clinical depression lack
the courage necessary to incite change.
Confidence is 90% of life.
The succession of a person's life is largely based on perception, not entirely.
A person who goes to work mumbling under their breath, "same # different day, this sucks"
knows for sure they are going to have a bad day, while the optimist will never be sure.
-Even then a person can change their perception to alter having a bad day.
-If a person is really good at focusing on negativity they are also very good at focusing on the positive.
I suffered a great part of my life thus far ranging from a multitude of things.
From shattered dreams, unfulfilled expectations, to deceitful manipulation, murder and
then everything in between like feeling socially unworthy of love, friendship even unworthy
of breathing the air we need in order to live.
The false idea that there are normal people among us is trivial at best.
The fun part is talking to these people we perceive as normal...only then
do we find the truth...They aren't normal, they suffer just like you and I.
Unfortunately there are levels of attaining spiritual enlightenment/success in whatever
the goal the person holds to be self serving, or naturally selfless...
I'm nothing special, I'm nothing superior to another, I'm not better than ________.
BUT, I have realised my self worth, and in order for this to happen
Change needs to occur.
Which comes from thoughts/ideas/beliefs.
These come from our mind/either conscious or subconsciously...
I'll leave you with this:
I feel depressed, I feel lonely, I feel no one understands me, no one loves me....
Someone calls me an idiot. Then someone else does too.
Someone else calls me another name...Prior to this name calling I didn't feel this way.
Now it consumes me....
The fact I suffer from depression has no bearing that I feel depressed.
If I feel no one gets me, or that I feel lonely/depressed guess what?
I am right! 100% of the time no matter what a doctor tells me, or what a stranger over the net says...
Who is to blame?
Is it the rude and insensitive people who called me those names???
Is it the condition of depression that compels me, and controls me to feel a certain way
which happens to be associated with negative behaviour?
How a person answers these questions tells me all I need to know about them
and their current state of mind.