Manual on How to Molest Children Is Legal, Cops Say

Originally posted by shortywarn
then why are these porn guys going to prison,,,,

i know two have max porn and some other fetish guy


how come all the ---how to make a bomb books, guides

and anarchist cookbook are so hard to get or find now???

how is this legal,,,, but sleeping off a hangover in your car with keys NOT in the ignition can get you a dui

a crowbar and mask in your car and you posess robbery tools???

Max Hardcore is in prison because the Jury were a bunch of uptight individuals. This is what you get with Conservatives, they'll do anything to see adult entertainment as a whole wiped out.

As for the Anarchist Cookbook...don't bother, it's misinformation and lies. I have it somewhere on my other computer and it's quite bogus.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
i haven't read through this entire thread, just page one and the last few posts. i find the subject matter repulsive.

who publishes this book? who prints it? who copyrights it?

who's this "mule" character who is the author of it?

sure, he has the right to free speech, no quarrells here. but in some cases my hands only know full contact sign language. my hands have the right to free speech too, right?

can i write a book entitled "1001 ways to torture and kill a child molester"?

i don't use this one often, but :

mule

[edit on 6-9-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

I don't think it was actually published... if it was, then that'd be an interesting case of free speech.

I'm 100% against censorship and an active supporter of the first amendment....so I wouldn't really bash the Manuel if it was turned into a book and sold. I'd let it be and not read it. You know, something people should do instead of trying to get something they don't like Banned.

Does this manual even exist? Or is it a convenient fiction for TPTB?

Originally posted by scwizard
Does this manual even exist? Or is it a convenient fiction for TPTB?

Considering it's not really making Mainstream National news, I'd say no, it's not a distraction nor reasonable fiction for the "TPTB."

Also, these things do exist as there are plenty of sickos who would take advantage of the manuel. However, I am curious to read it. Keyword: Curious

In fact, if any of us were able to Find the document, I'm sure we'd read it in a heartbeat to see the controversy behind it.

reply to post by scwizard

Does this manual even exist? Or is it a convenient fiction for TPTB?

Oh, the manual exists, so says Detective Phillip Graves of the Orange County Sheriffs Dept. After reading it he states the manual was an 'eye opener' - that he'd 'never seen anything like it.' (Quotes from original source).

That being said, I want to ask all those who are complaining about publishing, publishing companies, printing, etc...

Have you never heard of I-Book and Kindle etc? Electronic readers?

All it takes is a down-loadable link, a USB cable and (to my understanding) from there, who'd need a publisher? Right.

Which presents a whole new list of Right Infringements!

(That I'm sure TPTB are ready armed and willing to pounce on!)

Now, because of this pig and others like him/her - all your personal electronic readers are subject to perusal by the authorities if you're ever confronted by authorities.

Hey that Kindle just might have a manual on how to molest a child in it - hand it over bud - no warrant needed.

From there - I can also see how people will (soon) have to PAY to present their OWN MATERIAL to an internet publisher, who will of course act as a censor all the material in YOUR WORK and THOUGHTS - and NO material will be allowed to be downloaded to electronic readers WITHOUT an go-between (internet police).

You think this sounds like wild fantasy? Just wait and see.

Fact of the matter, the child molestation aside? (And not to be made light of) ---> I see the biggest threat from this manual being the censoring of the internet, the regulation of the internet and the end of net privacy and anonymity.

peace

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[edit on 7-9-2010 by silo13]

reply to post by SeventhSeal

Considering it's not really making Mainstream National news, I'd say no, it's not a distraction nor reasonable fiction for the "TPTB."

No, but it's equally as powerful and maybe more disturbing.
It's the tiny chip chipping away at the mind set of the People.
Plant this seed of doubt, plant that seed of doubt and one fine day (soming soon to a computer near you) when you have to log in with an eye scan or fingerprint to access YOUR computer, when you have to have a INTERNET LICIENCE to download/upload material and when you're unable to 'own' a blog without being licinced etc? You'll remember this pig, the 'Mule' and say - 'Oh yeah, it's THAT GUYS fault the Internet has been ruined for me...' And the problem is, by that time most people WILL AGREE!

Most people will be like 'Oh well, that's ok, I have nothing to hide, what should I be afraid of, and if it keeps those little children safe...'

BAH!

Also, these things do exist as there are plenty of sickos who would take advantage of the manuel. However, I am curious to read it. Keyword: Curious.
In fact, if any of us were able to Find the document, I'm sure we'd read it in a heartbeat to see the controversy behind it.

There's the 'proof' (so to speak).
Why don't you read it?
It's legal right?

And no, I'm not advocating you do so or encouraging you to do so I'm trying to make a point.

peace

reply to post by silo13


Proof to what exactly?
If you had the manuel in front of you, you'd probably open it up and read it.

Most members here would. Is that a bad thing? Absolutely not. It's called being curious on why something is so controversial.

If you don't like it, don't look at it.

Besides, It's just some document some pervert typed up and emailed it out.

You know what's funny though? Making a thread about it actually benefits the guy who created the manuel. Now it's going to be searched for even more.

Who's the sicko here?

Its a sick world that we live in when things like this are considered "legal"

Anyone caught reading such a manual needs to be tied up and shot.

reply to post by SeventhSeal

Proof to what exactly?
If you had the manuel in front of you, you'd probably open it up and read it.

I'm at loss how you could take offence over my reply. Oh well, grow some thicker skin huh. My point being, and the 'proof' I spoke of was agreeing with you.

IF I had the document I would read it.
THEN because it was on my computer - the authorities would have the ammunition needed to point the finger at me and scream 'SEE! You're researching how to molest children'! And no amount of nay-saying would convince anyone I was not regardless of the fact I was doing exactly the opposite.

Point again - It's exactly this kind of situation TPTB just love...
They can nab the innocent and while prosecuting the innocent can hold up the writer of the manual as a totem.

'See! It's THESE people who we need to patrol on the Internet, regulate, and be able to pin down and prosecute.' The obvious conclusion - the regulation of the Internet and yet another reason why net anonymity will soon be a thing of the past.

So for everyone who wants to ban this book? (That includes me - though I know we can't) - You have to look at the bigger picture here because it fits together like hand and glove.

You can't ban these type of books as repulsive as they are.

You allow banning? It's not going to spread like a cancer and not through libraries, but through the lifeblood of the Internet, into your electric readers, your home PC's etc. It's not just a cut and dried issue of ban or don't ban here.

Ban it - They've won. And you can say hello to eye scans, internet license, internet police, internet content publishers (same as internet police) and on and on and on.

I've the same thing to say to those who want to 'use' the manual to 'tag' possible child molesters? What a horrific back-fire THAT would bring! Talk about ushering in Big Brother with a red carpet and a marching band!

No win situation here I'm afraid.
There are going to be those who abuse and misuse the First Amendment. May they rot in hell.

peace

reply to post by CheapShotArtist

Its a sick world that we live in when things like this are considered "legal"
Anyone caught reading such a manual needs to be tied up and shot.

What about parents who want to read it in or der to learn how these freaks work and think - in order to protect their children?

What better way to defeat your enemy than to know what they're thinking?

Just playing devil's advocate here. Because yes, I do believe anyone who wants to should be allowed to read this manual.

It would take a LOT of convincing for me to believe the manual could 'turn' people into child molesters - but I've made the natural conclusion it might help parents save their children from these monsters.

Am I wrong?

peace

I've taken some time to think about this and IF the manual is legal, then, well, it's legal. I do not think it should be banned because it would create a snowball effect and extremists who want to censor books ect... will know exactly how to do it.

I believe the police already know most of what the manual speaks of, their tricks, the "how-to's". What might surprise the LEO's is the time and effort someone put into the manual.

It's the public who could benefit from the manual not being censored. Parents need to open their eyes to the reality of the scum that is out there preying on their children. They need to know what the scum is thinking!

A few years ago I came out of hybernation and started dating again. That's when reality hit me just how prevelant and sick men and even women are when it comes to children! I would not want to be kept in the dark.

Legal or not, this manual should not be censored, it should be to used to educate the public.

With that said, I'm seriously thinking of changing careers. Our children are being hunted and preyed upon by people who don't deserve a life.

sl

[edit on 7-9-2010 by sweetliberty]

Ok so if it's real and stuff what makes you guys think it's published? I'd bet money that it's an ebook cause who the hell would take the risk of publishing it?

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I would like to make two points here.

Firslty, those cops are saying paedophiles are OK - that is against the law.

Secondly, paedophiles do not need a "How to" book.

This sounds like a hoax.

Originally posted by PsykoOps
Ok so if it's real and stuff what makes you guys think it's published? I'd bet money that it's an ebook cause who the hell would take the risk of publishing it?

It's real. I don't know if it's published but I do remember hearing the news mentioning it looked "professionally" created.

sl

Originally posted by CheapShotArtist
Anyone caught reading such a manual needs to be tied up and shot.

I used to think that way but I no longer feel the same.

This whole subject infuriates me to say the least.
Recently I read an article that spoke about infants being sexually assaulted by maggots like these. I no longer want to be protected from reality. On one hand, I don’t think I can handle the truth. On the other hand, I want to know the truth. For the sake of our children, I hope the whole truth isn’t kept in the dark anymore. Bringing as much information as possible to the public, I feel, would be in the best interest of our children.

Originally posted by Discotech
One has to wonder though if things like this aren't actually government ploys in order to make it easier to pass yet another freedom killing law thanks to knee jerk reactions from the populace. I know if I was in power and I wanted to create a new law which under normal circumstances wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting passed I'd create a ruse which rallies the populace into supporting the law and thus result in it getting passed with ease!

I think you're right on the money here. I'd be willing to bet that this story is a gross exaggeration about the content of this "book" to get people to second guess our First Amendment rights on the Internet.

Just look at what's been going on lately - Senator Jay Rockefeller says that we'd be better off without the Internet because it's a threat to national security, Obama appoints an "Internet Czar" with unlimited power, the FCC is trying to get control of the Internet through regulation, claiming they have the same authority as they do over the airwaves, and Senator Joe Lieberman is lobbying for an "Internet Kill Switch".

An attack on the Internet by TPTB is in full swing. All the government needs now is the blessing of the people. What better way to do that than create an Internet boogie man stalking your children? I guarantee this won't be the last Internet threat you hear about.

Originally posted by AntiNWO
An attack on the Internet by TPTB is in full swing. All the government needs now is the blessing of the people. What better way to do that than create an Internet boogie man stalking your children? I guarantee this won't be the last Internet threat you hear about.

TPTB need to leave us alone and the parents need to be responsible for thier children and what they are doing.

sl

reply to post by silo13


There are ways to protect your children without having to delve into a mass of sewage that such a manual would be.

All I know is, if my daughter or son were molested, god help whoever did it if I found out who. I'd be in the penitentiary for life.

Dont burn the books. Burn the ones that buy them!

Child molesters? Death by suffocation.


These vermin are incapable of safe release back to society.

The only other choice is to have an alcatraz type place.

If that is legal then there should be no problem with a manual such as,

"How to Abduct Paedophiles who plan to Molest your Children".

Would probably be pretty propular methinks.