The Aurora Top-Secret Hypersonic Spy Plane

reply to Allpost by AboveTopSecret.com
There has to be a better way. Using laser heat wave as a ignighter in pulse propoltion seems to mean something. Think on that. Less preheat and not so much weight bearing extras for blow off.

High performance hypersonic aircraft. Look at it like this. If Blackbird wa doing 3,000mph in the 1960s, how fast are we going now? Likewise the supersonic Concorde airliner was capable of mach 1.5 or 2 [not sure which] and that was as early as 1969.

We're now in 2008 - 39 years later.

In c1945 the fastest prop planes then, Mustang, Spitfire were approaching speed of sound but not quite - by 1948 the sound barrier had been breached by the Americans [who else?].

We should all start to think sensibly and clearly about how far we might have come in terms of aircraft speeds.

I think it's quite possible we're already hitting mach 6+ with unmanned aircraft. Why fly to the warzone when you can sit in front of a screen with a control stik and do it from there?

It's the future that and war in cyberspace etc. . . .

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
High performance hypersonic aircraft. Look at it like this. If Blackbird wa doing 3,000mph in the 1960s, how fast are we going now? ...........
I think it's quite possible we're already hitting mach 6+ with unmanned aircraft. Why fly to the warzone when you can sit in front of a screen with a control stik and do it from there?

The blackbird couldn't do 3,000 miles an hour if Chuck Norris himself threw it into hypervelocity.
Try Mach 3.2... that's the official number. Even the unofficial numbers don't come close to 3k mph.

As for Mach 6 and UAV's you have no further to look than the Blackswift.
I can all but guarantee you this thing has gone black.
The white world version is being tied up with technical issues and corporate dealings between Boeing and LockMart while the Black world version is a 2010 version of the SR-71 Blackbird, with hybrid turbo to ramjet technology. I'll scream this from the rooftops until someone hears me - this thing is real.

[edit on 9-2-2008 by intelgurl]

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Is this a bot post?

(Sorry for the one-liner)

Shattered OUT...

Yes! this plane does exist, I was in the USAF, a security specialist, and me and three other men I served with were tasked to guard it, summer of 89, We were segregated from everyone else, stayed in a trailer near the hanger for 2 weeks sweating in the Nevada sun. We did get to eat chow with the flight crew. There were 4 of them, pilot, Co-pilot, WSO(weapons systems officer) and NAV. Wore blank flight suits, and were trucked out to the hanger in what I would call space suits...but dark grey in color. Once at chow the pilot mentioned that they "could" go into "space" what I would guess now is Low Earth Orbit, and drop nukes anywhere in the world in 40 minutes. Basically we guarded entry into and out of the hanger. When the plane was gone "flying" or somewhere else we got to hang out and work on our tans...that was about it...sweat, eat, sleep...Our rules of engagement was an exchange badge system, unauthorized entry engagement was explained to us as "shoot to kill with extreme prejudice". The cordon for this hanger was exactly 460 meters, the range of our M-16 rifles. There was a giant bus that would bring in the crew, crew chief and mechanics, fuels, egress, etc...any other vehicles were considered hostile and shoot on site. At the time it was a tdy(temporary duty)I did this same thing four times with the bread box...another experimental plane, the other was what I believe to be a 117 but it was camo color, the last one was this plane, XB 176 I think was the designation. I got out at the end of 89, but from 86 to 89 I went to Nellis then onto area 51, 4 times to guard different aircraft.

reply to post by Anonymous ATS

There are things (I will not point at specifically) which you mention in your post that ring true with things I am aware of. Your particular story has factual information that people unfamiliar with projects dealing with national assets on the Nellis Range would not know.

Thumbs up for you - be careful.

I was driving to Stoke (UK) from the South with my mother and we both saw Aurora for about 3 minutes. It was far away and I thought it was a bird but then it turned sideways and virtually disappeared. When it reappeared it was a 'step down' triangular shape. It was astonishing, I only wish I had got a photo.

reply to post by WestPoint23


The arora dose exists, :mad, i know were it is kept, and its not far from my house, i have even spoken to the blokes that are currently working on its development, it is totaly built of composite materials and flys at mach 6, show me the money and i'll tell you more.

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i still got prints of the negative i sent to fortean times...

yea that would be really funny
:lol

reply to post by Figher Master FIN


THIS IS WHAT CONVINCES ME THAT IT "DOES" EXIST!! For a while I lived in Bullhead City, Arizona, which isn't SO far away from the well known, and infamous Area 51. Famous for being a black project testing ground, where EVERY project in existence has ever been denied--(DUH!!)
In summer of 1996 I moved into an appartment complex. During the next two years we experienced a series of "sonic booms" that were NOT CAPABLE of being made by any of the big and slow commercial airliners coming and going from our little Bullhead airport. It was VERY STRANGE, and unexplained.
I had heard about the Aurora for a while, and remembered it was said to have a VERY telltale signature exhaust of something akin to "donuts on a rope". One summer day between 1996, and 1998 (don't remember exact year) I went outside in the afternoon after a sonic boom had slammed the apartment complex.
I looked up into our clear blue Arizona sky, and to my amazement, I saw a vapor trail of "DONUTS ON A ROPE"!! I IMMEDIATELY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT! -WHICH INSTANTLY EXPLAINED THE BOOMS.
The visible (and very unusual) vapor trail hanging in the sky was roughly W by NW, to E by SE, as I remember it. (I was facing due South).
To this very day, I am STILL kicking myself for not having film in my camera at the time!! I usually had film handy for shooting pictures of our beautiful summer sunsets, BUT AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT--NOT THAT DAY.
I SAW IT WITH MY VERY OWN EYES, AND HAVE NEVER SEEN IT SINCE. BUT IT WAS THERE!! You can debate all you want, and squabble back and forth, I don't care. The fact is, the vapor trail alone tells me IT DOES EXIST!!
I know that some people think that is just as crazy and far-fetched sounding as if you had claimed to run into a bigfoot face-to-face, but I believe WITH NO DOUBT IN MY MIND the AURORA EXISTS!!

Originally posted by intelgurl
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There are things (I will not point at specifically) which you mention in your post that ring true with things I am aware of. Your particular story has factual information that people unfamiliar with projects dealing with national assets on the Nellis Range would not know.

Thumbs up for you - be careful.

But, hadnt the bread box stopped flying in 85?

Although I never saw, or heard anything past heresay in regards to the "Aurora", some of the more technical mechanics needed to pull off such a craft do in fact exist. I am a former "Tron Chaser" (Aviation Electronics Tech, for those unfamiliar to the designation) for the USN. With 16 years in(89-04), and never left the states. That said, I obviously had a few interesting duty stations. I have personally worked on "Secret" and above projects that to this day have yet to see the light of day.-- The following are not secret and are projects declasified--I have seen 70s era Hueys as well as other older craft flying around with nobody in them. We not only have surpassed the point of building manned aircraft, but our newest supercarriers (CVN-78s) are designed from the get go for seperate launch and recovery of both current and future manned and unmanned aircraft. This is to the extent of an entirely new launch/ recovery system. The only possible reason for ditching the tried and true steam catapults is future aircraft will need greater thrust at takeoff from a carrier.
www.navsource.org...
Knowing what the "possibilities" are, and what our past, and current technological research has been focused on, I belive the "Aurora" has been exactly what was origonally stated in the financing documents leaked long ago. But, dont get ahead of yourselves. A "platform" when in R&D takes on many roles. It has been so long, it has surely mutated, updated, and redesigned numerous times along the ride. This is how we learn new technologies. It could be an in tact craft, capable of all people dream it to be. Or it could have morphed into something that fullfills an entirely new role. The one thing I am certain of, it (whatever Aurora has become at this point) is it is not, has not, and will not, EVER be a craft capable of exiting/ re-entering the atmosphere. To even have such a craft on the design board would be more international violations than I could count. Militarizing space is not permitted under numerous treaties. And currently, not even the US has the technology to hide the re-entry of any type of vessel. We would already have been in WW3 if it exisisted as some view it.
As far as the "donuts on a rope" sure we are working on new pulse technology, but its not the Aurora

[edit on 12/10/2008 by Badge01]

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Badge, what do they call those models? I meant what is the name of them on the box? Can't say I've ever seen any concepts of those before. Quite an interesting design.