Did Obama Really Swim in the Gulf? Maybe NOT!

It would be nice if we could get some Gulf fishermen in this thread instead of a bunch of outraged conspiracy theorists who have witnessed the spill only through pictures.

I will also settle for anyone who lives near the gulf coast.

[edit on 16-8-2010 by Mythic Chris]

reply to post by Chance321


In response to the above post. What a sick world we now live in as we watch...cough...cough...clown and clownest (no names mentioned) travel to yet another vacation after they return from their last. Each day is a vacation to these deceptive monsters at all levels of government. This nation is beyond any sensible repair as it exsposes its filth to a world of even more decepted crap. Just as the Gulf of Mexico which i have lived on and around all my life has become a cesspool in many places i have personally witness, so continues the (all so obvious) for a few "dog and pony" show this nation has become. I have absolutely no respect for those that speak lies (especially about BP...they themselves liars) when so much evidence continues to flow out of this gusher of ever expanding revalation. How can people be so blind. The answer is their if you look for truth. Hah!! only in your dreams or is it nightmares.

Originally posted by Boomer1941

If the water looks clean, then it is clean when it comes to oil.

Isn't that kind of like 'sticking your head in the sand'? Oil dispersant emulsifies the oil, it doesn't get rid of it, it dilutes it so to speak, it's still there whether you see it or not, but then you can always subscribe to the old saying 'out of sight out of mind'. Added to the emulsified oil you now have 'Corexit', how good it that for the Gulf and human contact???

Let's get back to this subject a year from now and see what shape the Gulf is really in with some chemical testing, if it's bad I know we won't see you in here anymore will we?

It does effectively keep it off the beaches. As it emulsifies it, it sinks to the bottom. It also breaks down into smaller and smaller molecules. So, if you don't see oil in the water, then there isn't enough oil there to worry about. That is why the usage of the dispersants was a GOOD thing! Sure, the dispersants come with some of their own problems, but here we are in the middle of August, no oil is washing up on the beaches, the leak is stopped, the enzymes and filter fish are working away at eating this oil up. Things are getting better, and the use of the dispersants slowed the spread of the oil, confined it to the bottom of the ocean, and bought the beaches and marshes some valuable time.

Now, the enzymes, sun, wave action, and filter fish will break this oil down. Corexit has a detectable life span of about 28 days.

I have personally swam in the Gulf, many times this summer. It has been beautiful. There was a small fraction of time this early summer where Pensacola and Ft. Walton Beach had an astringent smell, and the water got kind of dark for a little while. A little bit of oil washed up along that coast, but it went away pretty quickly, and the water is now Emerald Clear!!

I'd swim in the gulf, I don't really understand what's the big deal? The oil spill has turned out to not be a big of a disaster as people were making it out to be. 2/3rds of the Oil was eliminated by mother nature and dispersant, and BP has cleaned up several million barrels...BP has been paying and hiring anyone with a boat (even small fishing boats) to help clean it up. I was in the gulf just after the spill, and spoke to a fisherman that was going through training classes. Fear sells though, and now we have no oil production in the gulf. Suckers.

[edit on 16-8-2010 by yellowcard]

reply to post by Perplexity


Get proof? Are you serious. You would have to be blind not to see through these lies covered up and yet so obvious. I live on this coast line an the oil continues to come ashore. LOOK!! below the surface, dig a few feet down on some ares of beech if you dare.

Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by Boomer1941

If the water looks clean, then it is clean when it comes to oil.

Isn't that kind of like 'sticking your head in the sand'? Oil dispersant emulsifies the oil, it doesn't get rid of it, it dilutes it so to speak, it's still there whether you see it or not, but then you can always subscribe to the old saying 'out of sight out of mind'. Added to the emulsified oil you now have 'Corexit', how good it that for the Gulf and human contact???

Let's get back to this subject a year from now and see what shape the Gulf is really in with some chemical testing, if it's bad I know we won't see you in here anymore will we?

It does effectively keep it off the beaches. As it emulsifies it, it sinks to the bottom. It also breaks down into smaller and smaller molecules. So, if you don't see oil in the water, then there isn't enough oil there to worry about. That is why the usage of the dispersants was a GOOD thing! Sure, the dispersants come with some of their own problems, but here we are in the middle of August, no oil is washing up on the beaches, the leak is stopped, the enzymes and filter fish are working away at eating this oil up. Things are getting better, and the use of the dispersants slowed the spread of the oil, confined it to the bottom of the ocean, and bought the beaches and marshes some valuable time.

Now, the enzymes, sun, wave action, and filter fish will break this oil down. Corexit has a detectable life span of about 28 days.

I have personally swam in the Gulf, many times this summer. It has been beautiful. There was a small fraction of time this early summer where Pensacola and Ft. Walton Beach had an astringent smell, and the water got kind of dark for a little while. A little bit of oil washed up along that coast, but it went away pretty quickly, and the water is now Emerald Clear!!

Thank you for your post. It is nice to get information from people who are there so I ask again, are there any more that have actually been to the Gulf coast or live near it? Your information could be deemed useful for this thread.

Originally posted by gaslaugh123
reply to post by Perplexity

 

Get proof? Are you serious. You would have to be blind not to see through these lies covered up and yet so obvious. I live on this coast line an the oil continues to come ashore. LOOK!! below the surface, dig a few feet down on some ares of beech if you dare.

Digging a few feet down would only show what came ashore weeks ago...not currently. People like you are killing your own regions economy by effectively telling people the beach is black when that is far from true. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Originally posted by gaslaugh123
reply to post by Perplexity

 

Get proof? Are you serious. You would have to be blind not to see through these lies covered up and yet so obvious. I live on this coast line an the oil continues to come ashore. LOOK!! below the surface, dig a few feet down on some ares of beech if you dare.

Which coastline? Louisianna, Mississippi, and Alabama have had quite a bit of oil washing up. Especially Louisianna. Nothing in Florida though. I implore you to come on down and dig for yourself! We need the tourism and you need the peace of mind!

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I saw him bade in the gulf on tv- Well done mate, well done-djesus

reply to post by sputniksteve

But if this was Glenn Beck the media would be all over it and leading each segment with the filthy liar Beck swimming somewhere that is not the gulf. Straw....last!

Glenn Beck could roll around the ocean amongst the tar balls all day and no one would care--he's not the president. No one cares if he lies about swimming in the Gulf. Come to think of it, I wish he would.

Even If the president did this, to show it's all good.
If he got sick from the oil, the world's top doctors would be on his case, and he would be tip top shape in no time.

But, we, would get sick and die.

Originally posted by sputniksteve
But if this was Glenn Beck the media would be all over it and leading each segment with the filthy liar Beck swimming somewhere that is not the gulf. Straw....last!

What does it matter if it is Glenn Beck faking it or Obama?

The NET RESULT is that this helps the corporation; BP.

Do you get that? This is a President shilling for a corporation. Is that Liberal, Conservative, Republican or is it CORPORATE?

It's wrong, and the press passing off this dog food to us is CORPORATE propaganda. Not Socialism, not "freedom", not Democratic -- it is Corporate.

Poor Glenn Beck getting singled out is merely someone more obvious and heavy-handed to fool people who like Glenn Beck. Obama is fooling people who went to college and thought that he would make things fairer.


>> I'm not sure however, if Obama has a choice in the matter. But we can either go with him, or go with the people who will sell us to BP. Sarah Palin would also be swimming in the water, but with a bikini and a smile and a wink and probably while promoting a BP Charity fund so we can help them get back on their feet.

Obama is Bad and the shills like Glenn Beck is worse and this is somehow a good choice?

Originally posted by NorEaster
What did you expect? They weren't going to drop the family out of a Coast Guard chopper into the middle of the gulf?

I think they expected this:

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Originally posted by gaslaugh123
reply to post by Perplexity

 

Get proof? Are you serious. You would have to be blind not to see through these lies covered up and yet so obvious. I live on this coast line an the oil continues to come ashore. LOOK!! below the surface, dig a few feet down on some ares of beech if you dare.

A few feet! How long ago was that oil spilled? A million years ago?

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

The NET RESULT is that this helps the corporation; BP.

Wrong. BP was never in any danger. They will come out just fine. Nobody stopped buying gas or oil because of this. The stock plummeted, people made money on short positions, now they are buying back in, and they will profit on both ends. None of this mattered to BP.

The president is trying to help the local economies on the coast. The Net Result (hopefully) is that he helps the Gulf Coast for these last few crucial weeks of tourist season!!

The tourist economy is a fickle one. When people cut back, they cut back here first! The housing market crashed here first! The job market dried up here first (although Detroit took an even harder lump). Consider the Gulf Coast as an appendage of the US. When the economy gets cold, the blood restricts and it leaves the fingers and toes to fend for themselves. We are getting economically frostbit down here! Nobody here cares whether BP lives or dies, we only care about our local little tiki bar, or our friends carpet cleaning business, or our neighbor the real estate agent. That is where the net effect is felt first and felt hardest.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

 

The NET RESULT is that this helps the corporation; BP.

Wrong. BP was never in any danger. They will come out just fine. Nobody stopped buying gas or oil because of this. The stock plummeted, people made money on short positions, now they are buying back in, and they will profit on both ends. None of this mattered to BP.

The president is trying to help the local economies on the coast. The Net Result (hopefully) is that he helps the Gulf Coast for these last few crucial weeks of tourist season!!

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Sorry, you are right and I am wrong.

Of course BP isn't getting hurt in this endeavor -- I was just trying to apply LOGIC to the poster's rant that "If [insert Right Wing Stooge] had done this, the [LIBERAL] media would have done [insert something preposterous]." I just was searching for equivalence.

Obama was helping the tourism in the Gulf area because it got smashed. The oil may kill the eco-system but it might be fine (for now) to swim near the beaches -- it just depends WHERE.



>> BP will likely PROFIT from this adventure -- yes really. The $20 Billion FUND, will never be all spent because the "beggars" for compensation will have to jump through hoops. It's really a "take the money and don't be able to sue us -- or hold out to sue us and be called a whiner for not taking the money." The fund will come out of their taxes. PLUS, they are getting a 40% kick-back from taxpayers for what they PAY for the contracted labor. ON TOP OF THAT -- they get something like $2,400 a year for EACH WORKER. Since the contracting companies are using prison labor -- who won't be able to sue either or go on TV when they inevitably have early deaths for NOT wearing protective gear -- well, they probably make a few thousand on each worker because they are paid from 40 cents an hour down to ZERO.

Trying to get early release is the new slavery. Will they be released in their productive years or only in time to go on Social Security? Another taxpayer expense, eh?



The only BIG ticket for BP is all the advertising they had to spend on TV for the news media to not castrate them. It's a protection racket after all.

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

The only BIG ticket for BP is all the advertising they had to spend on TV for the news media to not castrate them. It's a protection racket after all.

In my opinion this is the most significant development of our modern "news" organizations! It is a sad, sad development.

Pay enough money in advertising, and we will make sure the news stories paint your company/candidate/agenda in a wonderful light. Don't pay enough in adverstising, or let your competitor get to us first and we will roast you until you are dead!

The MSM is no longer news. It is, exactly as you succinctly put it, "A protection racket!"

If that bay isn't "the Gulf" then that spot two blocks away isn't "Ground Zero."

[edit on 16-8-2010 by nataylor]

each pr ratie took a dip in the clean waters of GoM, but no one of them can make video of it

Originally posted by wcitizen


I'm sure that many people didn't believe that Obama would really swim in the murky, toxic waters of the Gulf.

When I first heard about it I wondered how he would get round it. Now the answer seems to be clear.

How foolish of the cess pit's publicity team to launch a publicity stunt like that but then to BAN the press wouldn't also raise suspicions.

I'm sure most people (except, of course, the MSM) were just waiting to see what lie the WH would produce and expose it.

I honestly still find it incredible that the President of a country so blatanty shows such contempt towards the people of his country and towards any semblance of truth.



michellemalkin.com
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Notice he did it in Florida....I want to see him swim close to the action.....right off the coast of Louisiana....and eat some raw oysters and a big pile of boiled crabs!