Originally posted by DISRAELI
Originally posted by hadriana
And that is what I think these seals are. 144000 will be conscripted into service of God during this time, as God has seen them and he knows their
I do not think it means only 144,000 go to heaven.
I can sympathise with anxiety about being "bored in heaven", because the human mind does not know, and could not grasp anyway, what "being with
God" would really be like. We can only asscociate it with "endless time", which, to us, would be boring. But the reality would have to be beyond
I lost my original post, but I do think that it COULD go either way.
As a literal number, 144,000 has magickal correspondence. Mainly I'm thinking of a mental device that Western Magicians use- which resembles some of
the elements in this passage of Revelations. To go all ATS for a second, I've even spotted this same imagery in some UFO abduction accounts, where
abductees were 'shown' things. lol
The 4 angels are the watchtowers - N, S, E, W. They stand over a vault of heaven. (I think of it as space-time itself but it is easier to
visualize as just a big, black table or chess board that lays over creation, or sometimes I see it as a big black table/chessboard that lays over my
own self, where God is above, as my higher power, and I, in my imperfection, am below.
This table is imagined to have 144,00 squares. One uses it like a grid to isolate part of the mind - the ego - so that it CAN communicate with God in
a specific, manner so that the EGO is kept intact so that one CAN comprehend. Small doses, if you like.
I have had a deeply mystical experience that I would call union. You can't talk about it, so I won't. I am convinced of an ultimate omnipotent
presence though- I don't believe, I know - but I can't express it. It isn't boring at all - to be bored, one has to retain themselves, their ego.
It might be the ultimate sacrifice that a human can give.
Sorry, the other way it could go - is that 144,000 was just an easy way of saying a lot. Like....a gazillion. A huge number.
I tend to think, that the fact that it is such a perfect number, speaks more to how fractured our perceptions of God have to be, in order to
comprehend -just a fraction - of how great God really is.
[edit on 16-8-2010 by hadriana]