I disagree I defeated my own argument. Hormones aren’t “digested” like food – they may be ingested
and/or metabolized, but they
Simply because you eat something doesn't mean you fully digest it. Nor are phytoestrogens digested in the same way other hormones are. …Most
people just pee it out.
That statement didn’t make sense (to me) and I was trying to clarify what I understand the facts to be. Same goes for this one; I beleive its
inaccurate and confuses the issue:
In order for anything one eats to affect them it must digested. It must enter the bloodstream through one's intestines. Some amount of the
The way I understand the biology, digestion (aided by enzymes and hormones) breaks down foods into useable compounds, but that process is not required
for something ingested to affect us. We swallow a penny and get sick from bacteria or toxins on it, but we don’t “digest” the penny or bacteria.
And substances, ingested or not, don’t have to enter the bloodstream through the small intestines. They can be absorbed from chewing (nicotine from
chewing tobacco enters the bloodstream through the mouth), through stomach lining, skin, lungs, even eyes. Some inhaled chemicals skip the
bloodstream entirely via the olfactory system.
I’m not trying to play semantics; just trying to be as accurate. Proposing (in summary) that the only way xenohormones affect us is if we eat and
digest certain foods, then absorb (vs. expel), the molecules
is misleading and untrue.
Phytoestrogens are in many plants though including nuts, fennel and anise. I don't see people complaining about those.
That’s because they’re in their natural form. As I stated earlier, modern “processing” and genetic modifications have changed a lot about our
foods. I’m sure someone will want “proof” of that as well, but at this point, I’m not going to dig up and post a bunch of links nobody’s
really interested in anyway. I’m not trying to be sarcastic, just realistic - if someone really is interested in the content for the content’s
sake, I’d be happy to take time to compile references.
That said, I’m not really sure what it is you want me to “prove,” anyway. My entire point has been that xenohormones, specifically
xenoestrogens are plentiful in our environment; that they enter our bodies through a variety of different products and a variety of ways; and that
research has shown (and research continues to confirm) that these chemicals are causing a number of serious health problems. I’ve posted sources
relative to that, and those sources provide further sources. If people don’t want look into matters for themselves, or have already made up their
minds, then no amount of discussion or clickable links will make any difference.
I’m not still “arguing” this to “prove” I’m right (this shouldn’t be about proving anything, anyway; it should be about openly
considering - rather than dismissing - the collective peer-reviewed knowledge available), but I continued to post because I have a fair amount of
time invested in this and related topics and I think it’s an important issue (my opinion, of course). To say it’s all hype because you choose not
to believe it is your right, of course, but I sincerely hope anyone reading this thread will investigate these issues on their own, rather simply
concluding that so-and-so was right (or they won) and so-and-so was wrong (or they lost).
I apologize I’ve gone on and on, but I’m really frustrated at how difficult it is to discuss topics in any online venue. The intent should be to
expand on and explore things, but it seems nearly every topic ends up being a “you’re wrong; now prove you’re right” discussion (or worse).
There’s nothing enlightening, engaging or mutual in exchanges where parties are constantly having to defend credibility. The actual ideas become
irrelevant; THAT is indeed a bummer.