Explosions heard in Mexico - HERE IS THE REAL STORY- Why isn't this on CNN?, page 5

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reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 12:00 AM by Masinger

To be honest, I think that some militias not being willing to talk to media out of fear of demonization doesn't help alleviate the media blackout, but yet again, the militias can say "don't call us, we'll call you." I also don't blame them. One reporter gets killed, then it's a crap storm, with ninnies saying "CIVILIANS SHOULDN'T BE IN WAR ZONES!" Well ninny, WHERE'S THE NATIONAL GUARD? Although, militias are MUCH more flexible than mil units despite the lack of a hulking bureaucracy backing them up, if you don't count the Arizonans themselves and the Constitution, federal and state, as the bureaucracy. It's a good bureaucracy actually.

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 12:04 AM by daskakik

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by babybunnies

I have been noticing recent reports that the war against the cartels is spreading to Central American countries like Guatemala and Honduras.

Don't forget that Jamaica is also in on the Merida Initiative and just last month there was all out combat when they went after Christopher Coke.

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 12:08 AM by bestideayet

reply to post by buddha
I've found a blog that shows MUCH MORE than the pictures I got even showed. I'm still uploading, but you can see this for yourselves...

VERY VERY GRAPHIC!!!! WARNING!

BLOG DEL NARCO

Buddha, check your PM..

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 12:30 AM by BlasteR

Originally posted by fleabit

The police and FBI are all bought and paid for.

That's a bold statement. Any proof? You are suggesting a couple of kids.. 15 and 16 years old, have "bought and paid for" the police and FBI to turn their heads, so they can collect 250 bucks a household? I find that difficult to believe.

Things are bad, but the border patrols, and the police, have been busting their hump to try and curb this disaster that our government won't fix. Don't write them off with some flippant comment you can't even back up with proof.

Exactly what jurisdiction would the FBI or CIA have on the Mexican side anyway? You're assuming they're even present on the Mexico side which wouldn't matter anyway. Alot of good the American FBI or CIA is gonna do against gangbangers and drug cartels in the middle of a warzone against people armed with RPG's and fully automatic assault rifles.. All they could really do is tell the Mexican government to do something. What a waste of time!

It's not like the Mexican police are gonna do anything. They're just as corrupt as the drug cartels and gangbangers. The police are bought and paid for. It's been going on for decades. Everyone knows it but noone can do anything about it.

The people decapitating kids and running drugs are probably the cops! They can play both sides. If nothing else, the Mexican police escort the drug runners to and from the border and get paid for their "services". We have photo and video proof of this happening...

-ChriS

[edit on 1-8-2010 by BlasteR]

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 12:30 AM by Aliensun

reply to post by bestideayet

The situation is little different than what happened in Iraq. There it was purely political. In Mexico, it is drugs and politics.

Any of us with strong connctions to Mexico know that the entire system from the top down is corrupt. It is a way of life.

Want a particular license, get out of jail free, cable system hooked up? Just slip the right person (civil, federal or service) a few bucks, and the rules, laws and regulations are ignored.

There is no free lunch, as the old saying goes. A price is always extracted one way or another.

All in all, this system has been allowed to prevail and grow from the inactions of the various Mexican governments over the decades. It is the cancer of most, if not all, third-world countries.

The bad thing is that cancer is spreading to this country by leaps and bounds in small and large ways. A way to stop it is to enforce our existing immigration as they were intend.

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:02 AM by Dawgishly

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Send CNN and all the other MSM the story and see what happens.

This kind of news at the border has been being surpressed for maybe decades and most certainly for the last 10 years.

Does People magazine not constitute MSM?

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:11 AM by Orygun

I read about the cartels and think of Chicago during prohibition. Maybe it's time to legalize pot and put some of these guys out of business. If we legalized coaine that would really do it, but I can't in all good conscience agree to legalize coc aine. Pot is relatively harmless but lots of lives are destroyed by coc aine. I say this after spending 25 years in human services with a state government dealing with addicts.

It is time to legalize pot just to stop this violence. Tax it. Control it. But if it is legal, the cartels won't be killing to sell it.

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:14 AM by silo13

reply to post by g146541

Ummmm, so.... where are the explosions as advertised in the title of said thread?

Ditto...

Resent headlines that never come through...

???

peace

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:20 AM by glitchinmymatrix

reply to post by bestideayet

I'm with the guy who said that this is only anecdotal evidence.

The entire FBI and local and state police bought?

Do you have any idea what that means?

Your story reads like something out of some dramatized crime novel -- "it's a WARZONE!"

Whatever. Go fish. I'm not buying it. No stars. No flags.

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:37 AM by buddha

VIRUES! AVG block it said virues.
up date your virues dater base.
will try again.

>>OK it works now??<<
dont know why AVG said that?
must be one of the add's?

I did not get a PM?
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Originally posted by bestideayet
reply to post by buddha
I've found a blog that shows MUCH MORE than the pictures I got even showed. I'm still uploading, but you can see this for yourselves...

VERY VERY GRAPHIC!!!! WARNING!

BLOG DEL NARCO

Buddha, check your PM..

[edit on 1-8-2010 by buddha]

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:53 AM by ~Lucidity

reply to post by Dawgishly

Why? I sent bestideayet a whole slew of contacts, but they were mostly of the news media variety. People occasionally covers this kind of thing from the human interest side, so they might do it.

Wonder if Wikileaks would put up all the pics. They have the attention now of the news media now. I mean I know a lot of them are already out there but...

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 02:21 AM by ElectricUniverse

reply to post by Orygun

Maybe it is time that all the lazy people who keep claiming that pot, and every drug should be legalized, should instead STOP USING DRUGS....only then problems like the one Mexico, and Colombia have will stop...after that Communism must be next...

Next time you are going to use your heroin, or whatever drug you are hooked on, think about the fact that your addiction is what is causing this war in Mexico...

BLAME NOONE BUT THOSE WHO KEEP USING THOSE DAMN DRUGS.....

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 02:55 AM by JohnPhoenix

Originally posted by Krzyzmo
The border states and the rest of the country need another General Houston to restore our borders before we end up with another Alamo.

We can't end up with another Alamo. The Alamo was about the Mexicans trying to outlaw slavery and the white Texans who owned slaves were pissed. That's why they tried to make a stand.. they didn't want their slaves to be free.

That's how Texas got to be a state in the first place. they no longer wanted to be part of Mexico because they didn't like Mexico outlawing slavery, so they called for their independence. The American state of Texas was founded on one of the worst human rights atrocities imaginable. Boy I am so glad I'm not from there.

[edit on 1-8-2010 by JohnPhoenix]

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 03:11 AM by Come Clean

We always scream and cry about the symptom's but we never want to address the disease. The disease is America's insatiable appetite for Guns and Drugs.

Guess what, America averages about 15 murders a DAY. Not a month but a DAY. Every single day of the year. But we hold ourselves out like we the benevolent country for everyone to look up to. Talk about explosions! We're blowing up innocent people in two illegal wars.

From where I'm sitting Mexico is doing a lot better than we are right now. And I will tell you right now. Don't think some of those RANCHERS aren't making a few bucks providing safe passage for drug runners.

But some of those guys get greedy and pay the price.

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 03:23 AM by Come Clean

Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
Maybe some of you should read up on Mexican gun laws before wondering why they don't have guns.

For all the rampant crime and inhospitable behavior, Mexico is the United States' 18th biggest creditor. Think about that one for a minute. Mexico actually defaulted on its debts in 1982.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China and the Mexican problems? Everything.

For those who don't know, Mexico is the third member of the North American Free Trade Agreement. Chances are something in your line-of-sight was assembled in Mexico. For all the jobs that went South the per capita GDP of Mexicans has gone up:

Compared to that of the United States:

What this is saying that US experienced 36.5% per capita GDP increase while Mexico experienced a 63.5% increase. Nonetheless, the Mexican per capita GDP is still approx. $14K a year.

So why is Mexico going to Hell while they're actually experiencing a pretty good growth rate? Well, because we can have both economic growth and a social breakdown. We're seeing the rise of "Feral Cities" (a short summation on feral cities can be found here). The important concept is this:

As public services disintegrate, residents are forced to hire private security or pay criminals for protection.

The 'criminals', for all intents and purposes, are now the government. Going door-to-door and shaking down residents is akin to collecting taxes.

The bottom line is the US is in no shape to help in this effort. We really can't afford a three-front war. Mexico is more than able to create its own Lincoln Brigade, but it's really up to Mexico to do that. Private citizens engaging in the foreign affairs is a violation of the Logan Act.

Although civil people may disagree with how the cartels govern their regions, it's the lay of the land. Gruesome images and video doesn't really do much to help -there isn't much we Americans can do. We're broke and occupied with concerns on the other side of the world.

A point to ponder: what does it mean when your creditor is melting down?

[edit on 31-7-2010 by GreenGlassDoor]

I've been called a fool by saying this. America is too big to fail!

Everyone prospers in our great shadow. No way would the world let us fail. That's why I say deficit's probably don't matter. Not to us at least.

We are the biggest consumers of BS in the solar system of stuff no one really needs. I mean really, do you need a Hummer? Does your kid really need a tickle me elmo? Do you really need a house or car you can't afford? Or a credit card maxed out day in and day out?

If we stop consuming then the rest of the world would stop providing and need to rely on their own people to buy their hummers. It's not going to happen. They can't afford a hummer. They don't know what a tickle me elmo is. A house to them is a one room shack. And they are damn happy to have it.

[edit on 1-8-2010 by Come Clean]

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 03:43 AM by Calender

I am sure it is happening to hundreds of people, but with an average population that doesn't read or write very well, let alone use a computer, they have no voices.

I don't know about that place, but I've been in a city here now for a few months in Mexico near the border in Sonora (the violence is bad here and the corruption horrible) but that computer thing is a farce, at least here. I just opened up my wireless to see how many connections I can tap into right now and I'm reading 7 wireless APs, from where I'm sitting and writing. Everyone I know down here has a computer and internet access.

Bet that kinda surprised you didn't it?

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 04:22 AM by donhuangenaro

hail the 'war on drugs'
and its' consequences

I bet Nixon is turning in his grave
seeing how bad things are
after 40 years of this useless
and counterproductive
prohibition campaign

[edit on 1-8-2010 by donhuangenaro]

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 04:53 AM by Romekje

Originally posted by Orygun
I read about the cartels and think of Chicago during prohibition. Maybe it's time to legalize pot and put some of these guys out of business. If we legalized coaine that would really do it, but I can't in all good conscience agree to legalize coc aine. Pot is relatively harmless but lots of lives are destroyed by coc aine. I say this after spending 25 years in human services with a state government dealing with addicts.

It is time to legalize pot just to stop this violence. Tax it. Control it. But if it is legal, the cartels won't be killing to sell it.

This is exactly why the drug laws in the Netherlands are as they are, with the entire world laughing at us for it. But our country is one of the safest in the world.

reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 05:03 AM by sighler