Teens Now Getting High Off "Digital Drugs"

Like most are saying, I tried this years ago and it didn't work then and I don't expect it to work now. I don't see where teens are using it to get high either, I see someone noticed the names of a few of those and without even trying it and see how bunk it is, they started spreading fear about it..

Nothing to be scared of and nothing to be excited about...

oh wow .... "embrace ignorance" anyone..?

binaural beats, made professionally are harmless.

in fact, they've been proven to profoundly improve many psychological disorders. Not so long ago two members here on ATS collaborated in creating their very own binaural beat track in this very good thread:

Bach to the Future, New Deep Meditation tool.

"Meditation tool". Hahaha. i love threads like these, they can really open your eyes to the infinite gullabilty of consumers of the main stream media. ... actually im starting to feel a little ill now... Very worrying indeed. Do people actually get away with this Blatant Disinformation.

when i first found out about Binaural beats in the above thread, i was so exctied of its possibilities as a consciousness expanding tool, that reading this thread was like a slap in the face. Deny ignorance... right ... seems to be working abut as well as the ATS search function. Come on, seriously!!!

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Silo13 - I have been listening to Binaural Beats for many years, I defy anyone that can't get to higher state of awareness through binaural beats. Its the future to unlocking the brains capacity and its easy, literally half an hour is all you need to get yourself in a state ready to meditate on.

In regards to it being a drug, this is complete and utter tripe! it is a tool used to create a peaceful surroundings in order to clear the mind and understand the secrets it holds.

For heaven's sakes, that is the stupidest article I've read in a long time. These pathetic excuses for adults need to back off. They aren't "drugs" and no where near close. It's called marketing, and it's working rather well when adults are freaking out. The next Pokemon game should be called something similar, and if kids are having fun, it'll for sure be a sign that something horrible is happening! These pathetic adults have no lives, so when they see someone else living life and trying anything new, all the attention goes to that other person.

The adults surrounding these kids are more predatory than pedophiles, leave them alone!

Originally posted by OmegaPoint
Scientific Research Validates Brainwave Entrainment Meditation
(a revolution in neuroscience: tuning the brain)

Science ushered in a new era in our ability to learn, be creative, remember, control our moods, reduce stress, resolve unwanted behavior patterns, and a host of other desirable ends, with the appearance of a remarkable paper by Dr. Gerald Oster, of Mt. Sinai Medical Center, in the October 1973 issue of Scientific American.

Oster’s paper, entitled "Auditory Beats in the Brain," described how pulsations called binaural beats occurred in the brain when tones of different frequencies were presented separately to each ear. As a result, the entire brain became entrained to a frequency equal to the difference between the two tones and began to resonate to that frequency. In other words, Oster discovered a method for what is called entrainment of brain wave patterns. (1)

Simultaneously, Robert Monroe, of the Monroe Institute of Applied Sciences, was also investigating binaural beats. In thousands of experiments, using an EEG machine to monitor subjects’ electrical brain wave patterns, Monroe also concluded that he could entrain brain wave patterns using binaural beats. In addition, he noted that the response did not happen only in the area of the brain responsible for hearing, or only in one hemisphere or the other, but rather, the entire brain resonated. The waveforms of both hemispheres exhibited identical frequencies, amplitude, phase, and coherence.

Since then, many researchers have verified this phenomenon. Language and speech pathologist Dr. Suzanne Evans Morris, Ph.D., reports

Research supports the theory that different frequencies presented to each ear through stereo headphones... create a difference tone (or binaural beat) as the brain puts together the two tones it actually hears. Through EEG monitoring the difference tone is identified by a change in the electrical pattern produced by the brain. For example, frequencies of 200 Hz and 210 Hz produce a binaural beat frequency of 10 Hz. Monitoring of the brain’s electricity (EEG) shows that the brain produces increased 10 Hz activity with equal frequency and amplitude of the wave form in both hemispheres. (2)

Research by Dr. Lester Fehmi, director of the Princeton Behavioral Medicine and Biofeedback Clinic, and perhaps the foremost authority on hemispheric synchronization in the brain, also confirms that hemispheric synchronization and brain entrainment can be induced by binaural beats. (3)

Dr. Arthur Hastings, Ph.D., in a paper entitled "Tests of the Sleep Induction Technique" describes the effects of subjects listening to a cassette tape specially engineered to create binaural beats in the brain. In this case, the sounds on the tape were designed to slow the brain wave patterns from a normal waking beta brain wave pattern to a slower alpha pattern, then to a still slower theta pattern (the brain wave pattern of dreaming sleep), and finally to a delta pattern, the slowest of all, the brainwave pattern of dreamless sleep. Hastings says:

We were able to test the effects of the sleep tape on brain waves with an EEG machine through the courtesy of the researchers at the Langely-Porter Neuropsychiatric Institute, part of the University of California Medical School in San Francisco. Dr. Joe Kaniya, Director of the Psychophysiology of Consciousness Laboratory, monitored the brain-wave frequencies of one subject as he listened to the sleep tape.

The chart recording showed a typical sleep onset pattern: initial alpha waves, then a slowing of the brain waves with sleep spindles, and finally a pattern of stage 2 and 3 sleep brain waves in the low theta range . . . the patterns in the various stages suggested that the tape was influencing the subject’s state. (4)

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reply to post by franspeakfree

Silo13 - I have been listening to Binaural Beats for many years, I defy anyone that can't get to higher state of awareness through binaural beats. Its the future to unlocking the brains capacity and its easy, literally half an hour is all you need to get yourself in a state ready to meditate on.

In regards to it being a drug, this is complete and utter tripe! it is a tool used to create a peaceful surroundings in order to clear the mind and understand the secrets it holds.

Thank you - very interesting and informative. Maybe I'll give it a try after all.
Call it ATS peer pressure, lol.

Thanks tons!
peace


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..As a result of these constantly increasing and decreasing differences in electron pulse stimulation, an amplitude modulated standing wave (the binaural beat) is generated within the sound processing centers of the brain itself. It is this standing wave which acts to entrain brain waves. (6)

Atwater further states, "A conventional binaural beat generates two amplitude modulated standing waves, one in each hemisphere’s olivary nucleus. Such binaural beats will entrain both hemispheres to the same frequency, establishing equivalent electromagnetic environments and maximizing interhemispheric neural communication" (6).

The ability to entrain brain wave patterns opens up an exciting world of mind-boggling possibilities. Researchers in neuroscience could not contain their excitement.

"It’s difficult to try to responsibly convey some sense of excitement about what’s going on," said UCLA neurophysiologist John Kiebeskind. "You find yourself sounding like people you don’t respect. You try to be more conservative and not say such wild and intriguing things, but damn! The field is wild and intriguing. It’s hard to avoid talking that way...We are at a frontier, and it’s a terribly exciting time to be in this line of work" (7).

Neurochemist Candace Pert, of the National Institute of Mental Health, had this to say:

There’s a revolution going on. There used to be two systems of knowledge: hard science—chemistry, physics, biophysics—on the one hand, and, on the other, a system of knowledge that included ethology, psychology, and psychiatry. And now it’s as if a lightning bolt had connected the two. It’s all one system neuroscience...The present era in neuroscience is comparable to the time when Louis Pasteur first found out that germs cause disease. (8)

David Krech, Ph.D., a University of California at Berkeley psychologist, predicted almost twenty-five years ago: "I foresee the day when we shall have the means, and therefore, inevitably, the temptation, to manipulate the behavior and intellectual functioning of all people through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain." (9)

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This is nothing but a bunch of fear-mongering. And, oh no, we must save the kids from this evil digital drug!

I-Doser is generally considered to be a pile of garbage, but at one time (if not still) it did use SBaGen to generate it's binaural beats, which is a fairly well respected application.

My wife did a write-up on binarual beats awhile back which you can find here:

www.mindcryme.com...

In my experience, some binaural (and isochronic) beats seem to work for me. I have no idea if it has to do with actual brainwave entrainment or the fact that I'm putting myself into a certain state (i.e. calm) simply because I know a specific beat is supposed to affect anxiety.

In the end, it really doesn't matter to me. Low volume binaural beats in the background of ambient music or nature sounds is very relaxing for me and helps me sleep (I'm a horrible insomniac).

I suspect these alleged "highs" are nothing more than placebo and wishful thinking.

I will say, some binaural and isochronic beats can give you a splitting migraine. But so can standing next to a car with it's alarm going off.

[edit on 13-7-2010 by Melen]

That day may very well be here now, and the gentle altering of brain wave patterns using sound may be the easiest, most potent, and safest way to do it. Centerpointe Research Institute currently uses a sound technology called Holosync to entrain brain wave patterns, giving us the ability to influence or create tranquility, pain control, creativity, euphoria, excitement, focused attention, relief from stress, enhanced learning ability, enhanced problem-solving ability, increased memory, accelerated healing, behavior modification, and improvements in mental and emotional health.

Michael Hutchison, in his book Megabrain Power, sums up this revolution in neuroscience: "...[N]ew breakthroughs in neuroscience and microelectronics have permitted scientists to ‘map’ the electrical and chemical activity of the brain in action. Scientists have used the new technology to monitor the brains of those meditators, artists, and other rare individuals who are able to enter peak domains at will and to map their brain activity during those peak states." (10)

According to Hutchison, these scientists’ first findings were that those peak states are not mysterious and unpredictable phenomena, but are clearly linked to specific patterns of brain activity. These patterns include dramatic changes in brain wave activity, hemispheric symmetry, and rapid alterations in the levels of various neurochemicals. If we could learn to produce these patterns of brain activity, they reasoned, we should be able to produce the peak states they are associated with. "...They found that by using types of mechanical stimulation, such as...precise combinations of pulsating sound waves...they could actually produce those same ‘peak state’ brain patterns in ordinary people..." (10)

Just as we exercise our bodies to feel better and improve our physical health, stimulating the brain in this manner "exercises" the brain, bringing better mental and emotional health and increased intellectual functioning.

... with appropriately selected stimulation protocols [have] been observed by us to be an excellent neuro-pathway exerciser. As such we believe it has great potential for use in promoting optimal cerebral performance... Furthermore, the long-term effects of regular use... on maintaining and improving cerebral performance throughout life and possibly delaying for decades the deterioration of the brain traditionally associated with aging is very exciting.

There are four categories of brain wave patterns. The most rapid brain wave pattern is that of beta. This is the pattern of normal waking consciousness, and it is associated with concentration, arousal, alertness, and cognition, while at higher levels, beta is associated with anxiety. As we become more relaxed, the brain wave activity slows into the alpha range. These are the brain wave patterns of deep relaxation, and of what has been called the twilight state between sleep and waking, while the higher end of alpha represents a more relaxed yet focused state.

Slower still are theta waves. This is the state of dreaming sleep and also of increased creativity, super-learning, integrative experiences, and increased memory. The slowest brain wave pattern is delta, that of dreamless sleep. Generally people are asleep in delta, but there is evidence that it is possible to remain alert in this state—a very deep trance-like, non-physical state. It is in delta that our brains are triggered to release large quantities of healing growth hormone.

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As we slow patterns from beta to alpha to theta to delta, there is a corresponding increase in brain-hemisphere synchronization. This balancing phenomenon was noted in early EEG studies of experienced meditators in the 1970s. In deep meditative states, their brain waves shifted from the usual asymmetrical patterns, with one hemisphere dominant over the other, to a balanced state of whole-brain integration, with the same brain wave frequency throughout. As we will see, various mental abilities and experiences are induced naturally in these different brain wave patterns, and many of these abilities and experiences are quite remarkable.

Robert Monroe of the Monroe Institute reported that inducing brain wave patterns through the creation of binaural beats in the brain caused a wide range of effects, including "focusing of attention, suggestibility, problem solving, creativity, memory, and learning... sleep induction, pain control... and enhanced learning...".

Other scientists have noted that these slower brain wave patterns are accompanied by deep tranquility, flashes of creative insight, euphoria, intensely focused attention, and enhanced learning abilities. Dr. Lester has said that hemispheric synchronization represents "the maximum efficiency of information transport through the whole brain" and "[it] is correlated experientially with a union with experience, and ‘into-it-ness.’ Instead of feeling separate and narrow-focused, you tend to feel more into it—that is, unified with the experience, you are the experience—and the scope of your awareness is widened a great deal, so that you’re including many more experiences at the same time. There’s a whole-brain sensory integration going on, and it’s as if you become less self-conscious and you function more intuitively." (14)

One of the observed effects is increased learning ability. What is now known as superlearning began in the late 1960s and early 1970s with the work of Bulgarian psychiatrist Georgi Lozanov. Lozanov used deep relaxation combined with synchronized rhythms in the brain to cause students to produce alpha waves. He found that students when in this state learned over five times as much information with less study time per day, with greater long-term retention. In some cases, as much as thirty times as much was learned.

Quote source (as above): Bach to the Future, meditation tool.

Profound stuff.

I find it interesting the article in the OP has been published.. was it sheer ignorance on the part of the journalist, or was there some sort of hidden agenda so that the readers would be mislead into thinking this was in any way associated with a deviant youth subculture?... hmm..

Either way, it was certainly misleading, and definately ill informed. So i thought id try to remedy all those who had fallen into this trap after reading the article from the link in the OP. Hope it helped, and sory for flooding the thread with a huge unedited qoute..i cut as much as i could out in the edits.

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It really works, not sure about HIGH. It raises your frequency, and meditation can be changed to freeform, ie. meditating sitting or lying down, meditaing at the computer, doing dishes, etc. If you set intentions within, saying to yourself, various positive I am statements in addition asking, who am I? why am I here? I want to help? who am I? You can fall into some revelations and experiences very quickly including memories flooding in.
By itself without awareness not sure, though it will help and may improve dream time and recall and nudge someone into awareness.

But with awareness and a push to wake up,these are the tools we have that are very good.
I have to threads on this, one is Waking up to Source, and the other is a Manifesting Eden, under my profile. There are alot of these songs, whales and dolphins, ho'onoponopono technique of cleansing, sungazing, which not only increases your pineal but creates connection with Higher Self as well. And there is good music put out by "projects", such as Era, Vangelis, Constance Demby, Gregorian that also incorporates the different tones in each ear and is very good for meditating to, for hours.

The answers come to us when we do this, our own answers. Aside from meditation, washing dishes or doing chores where you are tuned out, kind of mindless repetitive ones, ZEN MIND, opens up memories.

When I was listening to whales and dolphins, I just started nodding my head, and suddenly said, "yes, dear ones, yes. We are here now, I am here now. You will be free." and I knew under this, it felt like a small thin ceiling or barrier, that I understand his language and knew him,he was family grouping or family, as many whales and dolphins are, that this had stirred my soul memories. I had more experiences with this later on.

Originally posted by franspeakfree
reply to post by silo13

 

Silo13 - I have been listening to Binaural Beats for many years, I defy anyone that can't get to higher state of awareness through binaural beats. Its the future to unlocking the brains capacity and its easy, literally half an hour is all you need to get yourself in a state ready to meditate on.

In regards to it being a drug, this is complete and utter tripe! it is a tool used to create a peaceful surroundings in order to clear the mind and understand the secrets it holds.

Exactly! I often use binaural beats for the exact same reason, it helps me with my meditation sessions (or sleeping). Sometimes my mind just won't sit still, so I need something to help me achieve the desired brain state. Here is an interesting article, if it hasn't been posted already www.web-us.com...

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Thanks so much for the heads-up on your article - I'm off to read it now.

Good to know it works, better to know (I guess) the fear teens are going to turn into brain munching zombies is just paranoia!




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When I was listening to whales and dolphins, I just started nodding my head, and suddenly said, "yes, dear ones, yes. We are here now, I am here now. You will be free." and I knew under this, it felt like a small thin ceiling or barrier, that I understand his language and knew him,he was family grouping or family, as many whales and dolphins are, that this had stirred my soul memories. I had more experiences with this later on.

Absolutely fascinating.
I'm a firm believer in 'cell memory' (memories we all carry in our cells back to the first 'aware' beings).
If this is a way to 'tap into' these memories then I'm all for it!
Thank you
peace

whatever happened to a good old fashioned bong and a few dabs of mdma. seems like now days if its not plant food it's bath salts and if that doesn't work go strangle your self for a few minutes. i swear this world gets crazier every day I'm in it.

Some of you have said you get good results with binaural beats during meditation. That sort of makes sense, tho, as repeating sounds are commonly used as meditation aids.

There is some scientific evidence that binaural beats do work, of course, but I would suggest that for some of you it's the meditation that's actually working, and that the repetition of the binaural beats is helping you to maintain your meditative state.

I used to generate my own binaurals using SBaGen. The problem I ran into with this (and apps like Neuro Programmer 2) is... how do you know if you're generating the correct tones? It's pretty difficult in my experience for a lay person to analyze a resulting .wav file and confirm that it has the proper beats at the proper frequencies. In fact, the problem is compounded when using cheap earbuds while listening to binaurals. Cheap earbuds and headphones have a limited range of tones they can reproduce. I've seem on other forums claims of people using beats at a specific Hz while using headphones that aren't even able to play those tones correctly.

In addition, many people convert the resulting .wav file to .mp3 or some other lossy format. They're called "lossy" for a reason, and you can change the tones in the resulting files without meaning to.

I bet if one has the proper equipment there's a larger likelihood of a positive result. Even with I-Doser, it still depends on the earbuds or headphones you're listening to them with.

Isochronic tones, which do not require headphones, are generally considered to be better (with monaural beats being the least likely to have any affect).

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I use bi aural beats for insomnia.
Works for me.
Also research shows that if you sync your hemispheres they stay that way for up to three days.
I find this to be true, and it is easier to be calm and focus for that time.
I definitely need less takes during recording during that time for instance.
and no chemical draw backs.

I took a stop smoking hypnosis tape and applied bi aural beats to it in the computer and it worked very well, but yes the same conditions for hypnosis still apply - you have to want it to work.

When I started smoking again a year later I went the chemical route and took laser acupuncture which is chemical, and found it worked the same except it took much less effort.

I would recommend using brain wave entrainment for certain situations and people - it definitely can be helpfull...

As a drug:
If someone is high on drugs that facilitate access to the deeper parts of the mind like hallucinogenic drugs do...and they use premade recordings and or visuals from an undocumented source...

I would say it can be DAMN DANGEROUS because you don't know what is being implanted subliminally and there are people and groups out there that are very well versed in the application of this stuff and do have evil agendas.

reply to post by Danbones
Though you admit it can be helpful you also state:

I would say it can be DAMN DANGEROUS because you don't know what is being implanted subliminally and there are people and groups out there that are very well versed in the application of this stuff and do have evil agendas.

Do you think it's possible, for someone, who's let's say very gullible or impressionable, to be influenced by some crazy subliminals, without any added chemical influence?

Thanks

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Interesting because I use many different binaural beats as a meditational aid every now and then and I have to say that either I am deluded or the beats really work. I thought it was inevitable before someone started abusing the gift gained from the beats to nefarious and dare I say – money orientated purposes and ‘wow’ on this occasion I am really sad to have been proven correct.

Once, I injured myself working out and the realisation was that I had taken three steps and by the time I recovered I would have slid back four. I tried ‘Euphoria’ and half an hour later I was not only shrugging about my injury but I was also pretty much full of giggly energy and I even chased my wife around the house like a demented happy beast.

Half the apps only iPod touch is related to binaural beats these days and my opinion is not only do they work but they are a very powerful aid to much personal benefit and spiritual health.

Of course it could all just be a subjective thing and I am just deluded – but I doubt that.

Ok here goes folks...If I start to freak or anything you'll know why...

Damn, the things I do for ATS....



Three...
Two...
One...

PLAY

The way it works is that you have to use head phones and each speaker is set to a different frequency. I think its a 4 mhtz difference and it simulates what would happen during REM sleep.