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Lets use this child argument for a second. Would a father drown all of his children in a massive flood? Would a father command his own children to stone the other children? What kind of father is a mass murder?
Originally posted by _R4t_
God gave you 10 commandments which goes along the line of how to be a good person... don't steal, don't cheap, don't kill and so on... Does that make you a slave? Or is that the type of life you cherish???
[edit on 7-7-2010 by _R4t_]
If anyone secretly entices you—even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend—saying, ‘Let us go and worship other gods’...you must not yield to or heed any such persons. Show them no pity or compassion and do not shield them. 9But you shall surely kill them; your own hand shall be first against them to execute them...Stone them to death for trying to turn you away from the Lord your God
When a woman has a discharge of blood, which is her regular discharge from her body, she shall be in her impurity for seven days, and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening.
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death.
You shall not wear clothes made of wool and linen woven together
Suppose a man marries a woman, but after going in to her, he dislikes her and makes up charges against her, slandering her by saying, ‘I married this woman; but when I lay with her, I did not find evidence of her virginity"... If, however, this charge is true, that evidence of the young woman’s virginity was not found,then they shall bring the young woman out to the entrance of her father’s house and the men of her town shall stone her to death.
No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the Lord.
Originally posted by randyvs
So you are Atheist then? No wait, Agnostics right? Maybe it was Apologistic? Nope little early for that.
Originally posted by randyvs
No problem my evil one. As long as the coversation stays on topic.
As I said very plainly so there could be no confusion. Reply to the
OP and Go from there. You know just your normal everyday way of doing things.
I don't have a problem with anything that's on topic. If someone wants a serious response, all they have to do is stay on topic. Trools trying to derail. They don't even matter to me .
Gods trying to fix things? Why isn't it working then?
Originally posted by _R4t_
Gods trying to fix things? Why isn't it working then?
Geez I really wonder, I asked a guy a question and I get 10 others attacking me... I really wonder buddy "why isn't it working?". No wait I'm sure its because there's NO GOD... I mean why would there be??? He's never done anything for me why would believe in him??? Why would I be worried of breaking someone's windshield to steal a pack of cigarettes on the cat seat??? after all THERE'S NO GOD right?
Why would I be worried to kill someone for his wallet that's likely not to contain more than 200$??? I have nothing to be worried of remember, there's no god I can't go in hell when I die i'll go 6 feet under and i'll rot and it'll all be over and all my worries to!!!!
Isn't that great??? And if life gets a bit too harsh on me well I can always jump off a biolding and it's all going to be over... do you know why??? cmon there's NO GOD... Why would I not do anything I want while I'm at it???
Originally posted by _R4t_
Geez I really wonder, I asked a guy a question and I get 10 others attacking me... I really wonder buddy "why isn't it working?". No wait I'm sure its because there's NO GOD... I mean why would there be??? He's never done anything for me why would believe in him??? Why would I be worried of breaking someone's windshield to steal a pack of cigarettes on the car seat??? after all THERE'S NO GOD right? Why would I be worried to kill someone for his wallet that's likely not to contain more than 200$??? I have nothing to be worried of remember, there's no god I can't go in hell when I die i'll go 6 feet under and i'll rot and it'll all be over and all my worries too!!!! Isn't that great??? And if life gets a bit too harsh on me well I can always jump off a buillding and it's all going to be over... do you know why??? cmon there's NO GOD... Why would I not do anything I want while I'm at it???
I KNOW! And there's people every year that are declared dead, comes back to life SOMEHOW sometimes days later... report seeing God, dead relatives, report seeing things in other rooms of the hospital they could of NEVER known or seen because THEY WERE DEAD. Babies that fall of from 2nd floors of buildings and somehow lives...
And guess what... there's still people that believe there isn't a God. And you know how they are called? get this... ATHEIST...
And simply because they are worried to be "slaves" or "confirming" because they are worried about their "individualism" well you have to learn to walk before you run... and you have to learn to follow to be a good leader...
So really I wonder why it isn't working... I really do...
[edit on 8-7-2010 by _R4t_]
[edit on 8-7-2010 by _R4t_]
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
Originally posted by _R4t_
Gods trying to fix things? Why isn't it working then?
Geez I really wonder, I asked a guy a question and I get 10 others attacking me... I really wonder buddy "why isn't it working?". No wait I'm sure its because there's NO GOD... I mean why would there be??? He's never done anything for me why would believe in him??? Why would I be worried of breaking someone's windshield to steal a pack of cigarettes on the cat seat??? after all THERE'S NO GOD right?
No but there is a person that owned that car and pack of cigarettes. You cannot be humane without the fear of God punishing you for it? I am a Satanist and I do not even have the desire to damage private property and steal, let alone need to be scared away from doing it. That is sad.
Why would I be worried to kill someone for his wallet that's likely not to contain more than 200$??? I have nothing to be worried of remember, there's no god I can't go in hell when I die i'll go 6 feet under and i'll rot and it'll all be over and all my worries to!!!!
So the simple fact that you would be taking an innocent human life for no good reason does not matter to you? The only thing keeping you from being a mass murderer is Hell?
Isn't that great??? And if life gets a bit too harsh on me well I can always jump off a biolding and it's all going to be over... do you know why??? cmon there's NO GOD... Why would I not do anything I want while I'm at it???
Obviously if you tie your reason to live to the belief in an imaginary friend, there is probably not much loss to be had.
Is that common among Christians? You all want to do horrible things to other people but do not simple because your god will get mad?
Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
Do not harm little children.
Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
Originally posted by _R4t_
Reading between the lines isn't really something Satan teach is it?
No wait he teach things like
Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked
You must not of read that one I think...
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
Im sure they'll will magically know I have trouble and just ask me out of the blue... how else would they know
When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
Your in a religious thread... respect us or don't come back
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
Can't wait till my mother in law comes back to my place... you know i'll be cruel to her because....
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
I hope ur girlfriend is not Satanic... "the mating signal" being a form of advance your not about to reproduce...
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
My neighbor bitch about his hot mustang all the time, I can rightfully steal it now YAY!
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Curse me if you can...
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
You don't need religion yet your still complaining about it aren't you? master won't be happy will he???
Do not harm little children.
this one's pretty universal...
Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
BUT you can kill humans without any of the above's reasons...
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
So next time that dude at Canadian Tire offers me a canadian tire's credit card and I say no then he offers it a second time I can head to the gun alley, get a shotgun and shot him in the face???
Wow is that what you believe in???? really??? then you bitch about God being a murder??? lol
You seem upset that I'm asking questions, you do know this is an open forum right?
Oh and NDES aren't proof of god, nice try though, I wouldn't trust the information a dying brain would give off, but apparantly you use it to strengthen your belief in a god.
[edit on 8-7-2010 by hippomchippo]
That is super. You have not shown that you can mock and ridicule. What you failed to do was explain why you need to be afraid of your god in order to not do harm. If you want to attack me or my religion, that is fine.
However, avoiding the questions put to you by attacking me or my religion is indicative of someone who is cornered, scared, and confused.
I asked pretty simple questions and your response it to look up some rules and give your opinion on them.
When was the last time you saved someone's soul with this tactic?
Why are you so afraid to respond to what I actually said?
Originally posted by _R4t_
You seem upset that I'm asking questions, you do know this is an open forum right?
Oh and NDES aren't proof of god, nice try though, I wouldn't trust the information a dying brain would give off, but apparantly you use it to strengthen your belief in a god.
[edit on 8-7-2010 by hippomchippo]
I'm not upset man lol far from it I'm having a blast . And as for NDE I had one myself when I was about 6 during an operation. When I woke up I asked the doctor that was keeping an eye on me to make sure I wake up, why earlier they were running around and being agitated because I could see them "run under me while I was flying..."
My mother told me the guy got white like a wall then told my mother what had happen... Apparently my heart stop in mid operation but he didn't want to tell her yet she was already nervous enough like that... He wanted to ensure I was stabilized before...
I've seen him a couple years ago and while I was shopping with my mom and sister and she pointed him to me saying he was the one that operated me when I was a kid.... I went to talk to him a little he was pretty cool and nice then I asked him if he remembered... he did but didn't want to talk about it... he seemed a bit troubled about this experience. On the other hand I'm not at all and I remember it as if it was yesterday its strange...